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Old 16th May 2012, 17:19   #511
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A dealer advised me not to upgrade to Yokohama 185/70/R14 for my Swift LXi Petrol. He says the Swift Petrol car has less torque compared to Diesel and so acceleration will suffer with wider tyres.

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Bull!

185/70-14 comes as stock on the Petrol Swift Zxi. Maybe the dealer doesnt have stock of it!
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Changed tyres on my santro on 28th May 2012 to
Michelin XM1 plus
165/65/R13

3400 bucks per tyre.
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A dealer advised me not to upgrade to Yokohama 185/70/R14 for my Swift LXi Petrol. He says the Swift Petrol car has less torque compared to Diesel and so acceleration will suffer with wider tyres.

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Bull!

185/70-14 comes as stock on the Petrol Swift Zxi. Maybe the dealer doesnt have stock of it!
I don't have any experience with this. But according to hearsay from few 'petrolheads', doesn't LXi feel more powerful and ride better than the ZXi?
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I moved on to Yokos 185/70. Tyres run like a breeze. However, I also discovered that my front suspensions need major overhaul. Without which I cannot enjoy the best of what the tyre probably has to offer.
any recommendations on workshops / mechanics on the western line ?
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I don't have any experience with this. But according to hearsay from few 'petrolheads', doesn't LXi feel more powerful and ride better than the ZXi?
More the weight, sluggish will be the car... Kerb weight of the Lxi is 960 kgs and that of a ZXi is 990 kgs. 30 kgs of weight difference is what makes the Lxi 'feel' more powerful. The above numbers are for the new swift and the logic would be the same for the old swift as well.
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More the weight, sluggish will be the car... Kerb weight of the Lxi is 960 kgs and that of a ZXi is 990 kgs. 30 kgs of weight difference is what makes the Lxi 'feel' more powerful. The above numbers are for the new swift and the logic would be the same for the old swift as well.
That's just half the story. The other half is LXi rides on 165 tires whereas ZXi rides on 185s. That would definitely make more difference than the additional 30kgs.
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I am seriously considering picking up a FIAT Linea T-Jet. Considering that the car has been standing in the plant/dealer's yard for more than a year now, what would be the condition of the tyres? Would they need to be changed right away?

If they have to be changed, then which ones would be ideal? My driving style is usually sedate - a bit spirited on the occasional highway drive.

On my Palio (Stile 1.1.SLX), I had upsized to Michelin XM1 185/65 R14 the day I bought the car. They served me well for 48 K kms, with just one puncture. I however lost one tyre in a highway trip. Not sure what I drove over, the contact surface got a deep cut and I replaced it again with Michelin and kept it as spare. When it was time to change I went for the same size, but Continental EC3 tyres.

Not sure if it is the tyres or it is me, 6 punctures so far (20 K Kms) and extremely noisy.

Since this is not the Plus variant (Please do not ask why not the Plus. That is a discussion for another thread), it comes with 195/65 R15 stock. Ideally I would like to drive on those tyres for the first 20 K Kms at least and then upsize to 205/55 R16, unless it is unsafe to use those tyres.

I am not keen on Conti for the T-Jet, might consider Michelin. I would actually prefer something in the lines of Pirelli P Zero Nero.

All recommendations welcome.

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XM1+ on my Getz has done close to 20,000 kms. Off late, the tire noise is very high. That is the only issue I have with the tire. Have you noticed the same?

Not even a single puncture, ride quality is awesome and handling is decent.
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I am using Michelin XM1+ on my ride i.e. Swift now for over 20k kms, there is minimal road noise infact the ride has become way quieter in comparison's to the JK Vetra's. The tyre is brilliant to say the least, just some moron has punctured the side walls on 2 of them so am looking to replace them now even though both of them have been repaired at Michelin shop itself.
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I have an Ikon 1.6 zxi, and am weighing up on upgrading the tyres.

>Size would be 185/60R14
>It should have a strong sidewall
>It should have minimum roadnoise

Now, I understand that the 2nd and 3rd points are a bit mutually exclusive, but anyway, I need a good balance at least. Any recommendations?

BTW, I currently have Pirelli p400 aquamile on the car (the prev owner fitted them). Out of 4, 2 of them have sidewall bilges/cracks.
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For tyres size-Size- 185/60R14 82H
Between Michelin Energy XM2 & Bridgestone Turanza ER-300 tyres.
Which tyre is better in terms of strong sidewall with good wet Grip.
Don’t mind if the tyre’s are noisy .
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>Size would be 185/60R14
>It should have a strong sidewall
>It should have minimum roadnoise

Now, I understand that the 2nd and 3rd points are a bit mutually exclusive, but anyway, I need a good balance at least. Any recommendations?
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For tyres size-Size- 185/60R14 82H
Between Michelin Energy XM2 & Bridgestone Turanza ER-300 tyres.
Which tyre is better in terms of strong sidewall with good wet Grip.
Donít mind if the tyreís are noisy .
I don't know about ER-300 but the Bridgestone Turanza ER60 has these specs .....

Tread plies: 2 Steel, 1 Polyester, 1 Nylon
Sidewall plies: 2 Polyester

Michellin XM2 ...
Tread plies: 2 Steel, 1 Polyester, 1 Polyamide
Sidewall plies: 1 Polyester

So you see, the sidewall of Turanza is double ply making it tougher but that makes it wee bit heavier than Michellins, Yokos and GY Duraplus. Remember that the weight of the rim + tyres (unsprung weight) multiples 7 times when in motion and adds to the sprung weight of the car.
The dry/wet grip of both are almost the same.
ER60 is a good balance of everthing.
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Had put this query elsewhere but got no reply. I am planning to change tyres on 2 of may cars in 6-8 months time. Found new Pirelli P4/P6 tyres on net. How are these tyres?

The cars are Ford Fusion and Brio. These cars are driven on city roads, highway as well as bad roads. Sometimes semi-rural to rural roads. So need to take bit of abuse, with good comfort, long life and minimum tyre noise.

Which wuld you suggest out of the following?

1) Yokohoma A drives
2) Michelin XM2
3) Pirelli P6

I find getting Pirelli's really exciting for my cars. They aren't very common aren't they? Are they worth it?
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I find getting Pirelli's really exciting for my cars. They aren't very common aren't they? Are they worth it?
Pirellis are generally made of a soft compound, so they may not cope with the bad roads well. I would suggest you stick to A drives, Turanzas, or XM2s for bad roads.
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