[gotzuk]

Originally Posted by SirAlec

Due to these vehicle count and their reliability they say 75% of vehicle that left solihull are still alive.

hey SirAlec,
that reminds me of a bumper sticker which says;

80% of all land rovers made are still on the road..
the rest of them made it home..


i guess another thread should be started if land rovers are to be discusssed...
cheers

[Elito11]

Originally Posted by DirtyDan

From the late 1980s thru the 1990s LR Ford dealerships in North America were so inundated with warranty work from having to work on Land Rovers that many service personel quit because they made only half salary on warranty work and more than a few dealerships went out of business. LRs were a North American joke, the informed people did not buy them. They looked good and ran bad. Uninformed people bought them for their looks. The fact that they have enjoyed some "record sales" recently is explained by the fact that their sales have been way down for many years. 'Tis you, sir, who know not whereof you speak. Use your head. Would they sell a money maker? Wake up and smell the motor oil, my friend.

How dogmatic can you get?!

Just because soemthing is making money does NOT IMPLY it cannot be sold. Stop offering lame/cliched reasons for your FABRICATIONS

And Ford sold LR in 2008, how does quality issues in 80's and 90's come into factor now. I am a Analyst and have read quite a bit on Ford's current financial situation and business outlook, and in light of that your statments are complete fabrication

And when did I SAY LR does not have quality issues?

Indica, Safari have so many quality issues, but they still sell and sell in GOOD numbers! I am sure you would find more jokes about Safari's reliability than LR's but just look at its sales!

Coming back to the point FORD did not sell LR due to quality issues . That is what i said and that is what i stand by. And that is no justification for Mahindra being better than LR or anything of that sort that you believe or are trying to prove!

Stop smelling motor oil and get some fresh sir.

Elito

[directinjection]

Here's a news report from today's Tribune according to which problems have been found in 200 Mahindra bulletproof jeeps supplied to Army, resulting in suspension of further orders. Problems reported:

1. Excessive weight
2. Inadequate power (in relation to weight)
3. Problems in steep climbs
4. Poor ground clearance
5. Poor turning radius causing difficulty while negotiating turns

The jeeps were ordered in spite of VRDE's adverse report during trials.

The report:

The Tribune, Chandigarh, India - Jammu & Kashmir

[ex670c]

This JEEP was picked up by a friend of mine in Chennai, he rebuilt it and sold it for a CJ3B.

The first 5 pics are the day after the JEEP was bought (17-07-2005)

It was the only JEEP which could successfully pull out 2 CLASSICs which had stalled in the water, tow start them on the sand....and finally had to tow one of the CLASSICs all the way back to Chennai i.e 40Kms.

Enjoy the pics

Regards,

Arka

[Blue Thunder]

Originally Posted by Spitfire

I thought this topic was about the Mahindra Major.

I thought so too, Spitfire

The discussion was going along beautifully till the post # 60 came along...
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/4x4-of...tml#post784428 .... after which it has been going off-topic.

Anyway, I think all the required useful info reg. Mahindra Major 4x4 is present in pages 1-4 of this thread.

[condor]

Guys, we have long digressed MAJOR-ly from the original topic of this thread. Let us at least not bring in more topics into this discussion

Elito11 : Indica, Safari have so many quality issues, but they still sell and sell in GOOD numbers!

Elito11 : Just because soemthing is making money does NOT IMPLY it cannot be sold. Stop offering lame/cliched reasons for your FABRICATIONS

@Elito, let's see what Dan is saying, rather than jumping to a conclusion so fast. How do you say/ know he's 'fabricating' what he has said ?

Basically, Ford has not been successful in managing it's current product portfolio (incl J-LR). And reverting to it's more recent portfolio could be the way that Ford has chosen to re-work things for itself, before they move ahead to grow inorganically.

It is also possible that issues with J-LR were affecting Ford's performance with it's other products - but the customer is not so naive in believing that issues with J-LR products will adversely affect Ford products.

While you analyze the information that's out in the open, and give us all insights that we cannot see - do we really know why Ford sold J-LR ?

Let's not forget that FORD itself once (quite jokingly) stood for Fix Or Repair Daily.

[IronWolf]

Originally Posted by ex670c

This JEEP was picked up by a friend of mine in Chennai, he rebuilt it and sold it for a CJ3B.

The first 5 pics are the day after the JEEP was bought (17-07-2005)

It was the only JEEP which could successfully pull out 2 CLASSICs which had stalled in the water, tow start them on the sand....and finally had to tow one of the CLASSICs all the way back to Chennai i.e 40Kms.

Enjoy the pics

Regards,

Arka

Arka.. some would shrug in disgust looking at that pile of iron and rust.

But some of us loved the sight of it. Please do share more about this jeep and its condition now. restored? on sale?

[DirtyDan]

Originally Posted by Elito11

How dogmatic can you get?!


Stop smelling motor oil and get some fresh sir.

Elito

Pretty damned dogmatic, thank you very much.

You better read the other posts about LR as well. I had a small fleet of Ford light trucks during that time frame in North America. I could not get them in for service because so much time was spent by the dealers fixing LRs. The service managers, one a personal friend of mine, used to complain to me about it. It's a fact, Jack. Sorry if it upsets you.

Suggest you make your next post the last word on this subject. This is not a LR thread.

[SirAlec]

Originally Posted by Elito11

What!! when did i say Land Rover does not have quality issues????
Don't be so blind in defending Mahindra that you do not even read others posts properly!!

Its Elito and not Eliot! (too much literature?) And HE not SHE!

Elito

Exatcly madam! they are preety much defending Mahindra, so i was at it, ki Mahindra se upar be duniya hai.

Originally Posted by Spitfire

I thought this topic was about the Mahindra Major.

Exatcly! But comparing with a LR is unjustified, hence the cross-posting.
But wat the hell, we are learning in the process.!

Originally Posted by gotzuk

hey SirAlec,
that reminds me of a bumper sticker which says;

80% of all land rovers made are still on the road..
the rest of them made it home..


i guess another thread should be started if land rovers are to be discusssed...
cheers

Yeah there are parks and jungles in Holland and Britain countryside, where part rangers write NO ROADS, and many LR lovers sticked below, EXcept for LAnd Rovers

Image Courtesy: Katrina, Hamburg

[svsantosh]

Originally Posted by Spitfire

I thought this topic was about the Mahindra Major.

Spitfire, Did you get a chance to TD the Major? I am eager to know about the feel of it? Please let us all know.

[ex670c]

Another 5 pictures of the CJ500D in action

The last 2 pictures are from TPC2007.

Regards,

Arka

[GTO]

It was the only JEEP which could successfully pull out 2 CLASSICs which had stalled in the water, tow start them on the sand....and finally had to tow one of the CLASSICs all the way back to Chennai i.e 40Kms.

Unless the Classics had a driver / mechanical error, I dont see why that should have happened.

[headers]

Originally Posted by GTO

Unless the Classics had a driver / mechanical error, I dont see why that should have happened.

GTO, welcome to offroad, down south. It need not be a driver / mechanical error. There are times when some vehicles make it and the others dont.

I've seen lesser powered vehicles doing an obstacle the first attempt than the others.

Its all luck eh?

[susan3004]

Originally Posted by headers

GTO, welcome to offroad, down south. It need not be a driver / mechanical error. There are times when some vehicles make it and the others dont.

I've seen lesser powered vehicles doing an obstacle the first attempt than the others.

Its all luck eh?

Luck, yes!
Skill of the driver also required for tackling a situation, no??
It would be a driver/ mechanical error. Otherwise, it is difficult to digest that that both the Classics would be so unlucky!

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by svsantosh

Spitfire, Did you get a chance to TD the Major? I am eager to know about the feel of it? Please let us all know.

Hello svsantosh,

Sorry but i have not being able to get my hands on a TD Major yet. I am a bit hesitant to use my friend's Major on the sort of terrain i could take her. The dealer has promised me a drive this weekend. Hopefully he can make it.

Apologies again, but i will try my best to get a proper onroad, offroad TD done.