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Delhi Gypsy gang, can I trust Motorcraft (Rahul) to do it? Nitin | |
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| ![]() Mods: I didn't post this in the last post, because it is an entirely different topic. If you feel otherwise, please merge it with earlier post. I spent the last week-end in my home town getting the Gypsy serviced. I have mentioned earlier as well, that the engine check light was blinking ever since I bought the Gypsy, so I asked my mechanic (Bosch authorized one, he has the necessary equipment to check). Now came the twist, it turned out that the wiring in my Gypsy didn't have a socket to connect to the Bosch diagnostic equipment. I checked the wiring thoroughly and found that the wiring behind the dashboard was built by Motherson, I have it's part number too, which I will post by evening. In all probability either the wiring was not for MPFI and retro-fitted, or the above mentioned socket was broken. After this, the electrician told me something else, in his own words - "ECM isn't giving earth, therefore ignition is not working. To make it work, I've connected the ignition earth wire to body earth wire and it's working fine now. And will not create any problems". I understood what he said, but don't know whether this is an acceptable situation? Can this create any problems in future? After all this, I observed the engine check light seriously and found that it is blinking on 1-2 pattern, indicating normal behavior. Now I am in a real dilemma, I really don't know what to do. I have the following options - 1. Leave everything as it is. The ECL is blinking, but it is indicating normal behavior so that should not be a problem. 2. Go to a MASS (MSM?) and ask them to diagnose all electrical. Logically they should change only Harness Assembly, Wiring No. 1; which costs Rs. 1691/- But they might decide to change the whole wiring as well, and that will set me back by Rs. 7500/- Also I don't think they'll repair the ECM, or do this kinad jugaad, they'll ask me to replace it. Which will mean expense of Rs. 17,378/- As of now, my expenses on the Gypsy have far exceeded my estimates and I won't be comfortable in spending so much more. And I don't know what other sensors, the might ask me to replace? 3. Go to Motorcraft (I know they are also a MASS, but I guess they will be less rigid than MSM) and work with them on resolving this issue. Please tell me gurus, what to do about it? Cheers Nitin |
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I am assuming that you have tried disconnecting the battery wires to see if the reset works. In normal circumstances, the ECL should not be blinking and better get it checked. However, you could get in touch with folks like gotzuk and others in NCR for their inputs on the next steps. | |
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| ![]() Its better you get it checked by a proper mass, it might need a different scanner and hence the different socket. Dont risk it since you never know whats really wrong and you dont want to fiddle around with a thing like ECU ![]() |
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| ![]() it is better you go to a MASS, get the error code checked by a diagnostic tool, BTW what kind of lamp is glowing in the cluster? is it a MIL or Engine check lamp? Spike |
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| ![]() Hi, This is a bump for my earlier question regarding ECM and wiring; and a couple of more queries - 1. There is slight play in steering, and it's kinda vague. I have never driven another Gypsy, so I don't know whether this is with all vehicles or only with mine. 2. Sometimes brakes aren't applied when I press the brake pedal the first time, it just goes down without any resistance. But when I immediately press it again, brakes are fine. The work at vehicle in my home town will be completing this Friday and I will give it to MotorCraft for these remaining issue on Saturday. I understand that they are best people to diagnose these issues, but I just want to know some probable reasons, to avoid being taken for a ride :-) Thanks Nitin |
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Brakes to be bled, air trap! If that doesn't work the booster is at fault. Motorcraft is good... | |
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| ![]() Today I gave my Gypsy to Maruti Service Masters, Okhla for the remaining work, that includes, but is not limited to : 1. Brakes overhaul 2. Electricals - thorough check-up 3. Suspension - thorough check-up 4. Steering - for play Surprisingly there was no coolant present; looks like there is some leak. They will check that and will top up the coolant. I asked the service adviser about engine flushing. But he told me that is not recommended in a 97K KMs run vehicle. According to him, in such a long duration carbon must have made a layer in the engine.Engine flush will wipe out that layer; and a gap will emerge between piston and cylinder. Is he right, or is it just hogwash? I also asked him for radiator flush but they don't have that facility. I was also planning to go for engine-decolonization but didn't go for the above reason as told by SA. Also there was oil leak from engine. Most probably it is due to gasket; SA will tell me if there is any other issue. I will also get the differentials and suspension serviced. Hopefully after this final round of repairs, my Gypsy will be ready to tame Khardung La :-) Nitin |
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| ![]() ntomer, can u PM the number of the guy u got it insured from? I tried Chola and learnt they dont insure vehicles older than 7yrs. thanks |
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