ICE upgrade : Maruti Swift

navin · 8th August 2006, 22:09

Good HUs can be got for about 8K
Component speakers from a specialist manufacturer about 6-7K
Coax from the same about 3.5-4K
the cheapest Sub amp combo is a Pio 306C for 4K mated to a Sony 502/554 for about 3K.
Add 2K for wires and install.

low_bass_makker · 8th August 2006, 22:41

the second option is the better one........as the rear speaker does not do go job in that location and if u travel without rear passanger then the second option is the why to go....

Kaustuv · 9th August 2006, 15:11

Thanks for your input guys ...

Most of the time I travel without rear passengers.. so I think the second
setup suits me more, moreover I can save some cash here and use it for a
better HU
So the config I have is
1. JBL GTO607C - 160mm (6-1/2") 2-way component system - 6500/-
2. a Sony 502 amp for about 3.5k, a PIO 306 sub for about 3.5K

But I am still not sure of which HU to go for in 10K range
Please Help

smokie · 17th October 2006, 11:09

Hi,

After going through this section, and a little advise from a friend of mine, I am thinking of installing this in my soon to be bought Swift VXi. Any suggestions, tips of in general information will be helpful. I am based in Hyderabad.

Rear Speakers: JBL GTO 937 : 100 Watt RMS at 2. Can this be mounted into the rear door? I don want to use a tray.
Front Components: JBL 6-1/2" GTO 607C, 70 Watts RMS at 2 ohms.
Wiring: One JBL 8 guage sub/con wiring kit. Costing Rs 2990.
Head Unit : Pionner PIY. Will use my iPod, wire directly goin into the Aux In.
Subwoofer: One GT4 -12, 12" woofer 1000 Watts Peak, 250 Watts RMS. Rs 4990 appx. SubWoofer to be mounted in a custom made MDF sealed box.

JBL GTO 75.4, 4 channel amplifier 104 x 4 at 4 ohms, connected to the subwoofer and the front components. the rear speakers will be
driven directly by the head unit.

Kindly let me know what you think of this config.

Thanks,

jkdas · 17th October 2006, 13:21

do check other threads regardign Swift install

6x9 on rear door? NO

get 6incher for rear door and dump 6x9

smokie · 17th October 2006, 17:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkdas

do check other threads regardign Swift install

6x9 on rear door? NO

get 6incher for rear door and dump 6x9

Yes, I did go through most of the Swift posts, just didn't want to do something which was already done. So I came up with this setup. I think I read Sam mentioning that 4 components, might make the sound a bit trebly, is that true? I might go for the same components being used in the front doors, in the rear doors as well. Is that a good idea? Or should I go for coaxials in the rear doors?

hydrashok · 17th October 2006, 17:23

I second JK on the 6x9s. Don't cut your rear door for 6x9s. With a sub in the boot, you really don't even need 6x9s. 6 or 6.5 inchers will do the job.

Components in the back also can add a little to the "trebliness" of the set-up. If you don't sit in the back a lot, co-axials will do in the back. And anyway, driving components off the HU will not give you full bang for the buck (spent on the rear comps). I'm sure you'll be ok with co-axials in the back. (I would opt for co-axials in the rear, if it were my decision).

speedzak · 17th October 2006, 17:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokie

Hi,

Rear Speakers: JBL GTO 937 : 100 Watt RMS at 2. Can this be mounted into the rear door? I don want to use a tray.

Front Components: JBL 6-1/2" GTO 607C, 70 Watts RMS at 2 ohms.
Wiring: One JBL 8 guage sub/con wiring kit. Costing Rs 2990.
Head Unit : Pionner PIY. Will use my iPod, wire directly goin into the Aux In.
Subwoofer: One GT4 -12, 12" woofer 1000 Watts Peak, 250 Watts RMS. Rs 4990 appx. SubWoofer to be mounted in a custom made MDF sealed box.
JBL GTO 75.4, 4 channel amplifier 104 x 4 at 4 ohms, connected to the subwoofer and the front components. the rear speakers will be
driven directly by the head unit.
Kindly let me know what you think of this config.
Thanks,

Everything seems ok except the Rear speakers.
You dont need a 6X9 when you have a sub. And fixing it in the rear doors is like asking KB100 to sit in an Alto. (He will fit in but the car will seems smaller than the person sitting in it. And getting in and out will be a big problem too). That's an option you can kindly ignore.
Get a decent set of co-axials for the rear.

JBL components are a little treble high. Very barely noticeable. Sam is a Guru so he'll be able to notice it more than novices like us. That's why he said to avoid 2 sets of components in a car I suppose.
There are plenty of cars with components in the front and back. And believe me, they sound great. It's only a matter of how good your installer is with the components. Another problem you're going to face is powering the rear components. You'll have to feed those from an amp to fully use their potential. So, you should be looking at a 2 amp setup which will again add to the cost.

BTW, what is your budget (limit) for your ICE?

And you dont have to look for a setup which was never done before. The suggestions here in Team-BHP are truly excellent. So, it's better to get a good setup rather than a different one.

One thing to remember! Always follow your ears and the thing in beween ears. they're the best judges for your car audio. It's your car, your money. So, let your ears be the judges rather than other's opininons. The opinions expressed here are suggestions and it's always best to try these different options posted here before you take the plunge!!
So, go to a reputed dealer/installer. Hear the speakers and decide.

You config is fine other than the above mentioned.
If you want to look for more options, Please shout!!!!!

Rtech · 17th October 2006, 17:44

Threads Merged. Please do a search before starting new threads.

smokie · 18th October 2006, 10:48

Sorry RTech, will keep that in mind in the future.

Thanks guys for all your suggestions, yes, I will listen to the setup, and use both the ears and the thing between them.

). I have listened to a similar setup to this, that's why I think its pretty good.

I will go for a second amp, but not right now, maybe after a while. So I have decided on co-axials on the rear doors, since its mostly going to be me in the car, maybe one more person. Any suggestions for co-axials?

One more thing, damping, I know what it is, but with this setup, do I need it?

amit_sound · 18th October 2006, 11:46

Hey somkie,

Since you plan to install a sub and in future to get a mono amp and another sub, damp needs to be done...

Even with the single sub you will clearly notice your boot and doors rattling.

Melody · 25th October 2006, 16:02

Hi Guys,
I'm very new to the world of cars. I will get my Swift VXi delivered on SAT. Being addicted to music I would love to have a decent sound system in my car. Let me add that I wouldn't prefer a loud "dhoom dhoom" kinda music system. I tried reading the posts in this thread. But I couldn't follow most of the posts eithr coz of my ignorance in this field or coz of the jargons used.
So, I would request you to suggest a "nice" music system for the budget of around 15K. I mostly listen to melodious India music. So, you may take that into consideration while suggesting the options.
It'll be of great help to me as I'm really confused about this. I reside in Blore.

navin · 25th October 2006, 16:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melody

So, I would request you to suggest a "nice" music system for the budget of around 15K.

6-7K for the HU and 8-9K for 2 pairs of 6" coax speakers (for each door).

Melody · 25th October 2006, 17:06

Thanks Navin. Could you also let me know the recommended brand for HU and Speakers? I also read from this forum that one should use good cables for the installation. Could you please throw some light on that too? Also from where in Blore did you get ur music system installed?

Sam Kapasi · 25th October 2006, 19:55

Hi Melody,
Navin is not from Bangalore. See his location.

There are many good brands you can choose from. For the HU, I recommend you choose between Pioneer, Sony, Blaupunkt.
As far as the speakers, there are many good brands to choose from. A brand that makes ONLY speakers will always sound superior. Good wires are a must, but in your case, using the supplied wires (that come with the speakers)

I used to know a really hot girl in Bangalore called Melody. If that's you, I'll give you free JBL speakers.

8th August 2006, 22:09	#76
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,421 Thanked: 10,000 Times	Good HUs can be got for about 8K Component speakers from a specialist manufacturer about 6-7K Coax from the same about 3.5-4K the cheapest Sub amp combo is a Pio 306C for 4K mated to a Sony 502/554 for about 3K. Add 2K for wires and install.
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8th August 2006, 22:41	#77
low_bass_makker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 6,813 Thanked: 306 Times View My Garage	the second option is the better one........as the rear speaker does not do go job in that location and if u travel without rear passanger then the second option is the why to go....
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9th August 2006, 15:11	#78
Kaustuv Newbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: BANGALORE Posts: 16 Thanked: 0 Times	Thanks for your input guys ... Most of the time I travel without rear passengers.. so I think the second setup suits me more, moreover I can save some cash here and use it for a better HU So the config I have is 1. JBL GTO607C - 160mm (6-1/2") 2-way component system - 6500/- 2. a Sony 502 amp for about 3.5k, a PIO 306 sub for about 3.5K But I am still not sure of which HU to go for in 10K range Please Help
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17th October 2006, 11:09	#79
smokie BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 83 Thanked: 17 Times	Hi, After going through this section, and a little advise from a friend of mine, I am thinking of installing this in my soon to be bought Swift VXi. Any suggestions, tips of in general information will be helpful. I am based in Hyderabad. Rear Speakers: JBL GTO 937 : 100 Watt RMS at 2. Can this be mounted into the rear door? I don want to use a tray. Front Components: JBL 6-1/2" GTO 607C, 70 Watts RMS at 2 ohms. Wiring: One JBL 8 guage sub/con wiring kit. Costing Rs 2990. Head Unit : Pionner PIY. Will use my iPod, wire directly goin into the Aux In. Subwoofer: One GT4 -12, 12" woofer 1000 Watts Peak, 250 Watts RMS. Rs 4990 appx. SubWoofer to be mounted in a custom made MDF sealed box. JBL GTO 75.4, 4 channel amplifier 104 x 4 at 4 ohms, connected to the subwoofer and the front components. the rear speakers will be driven directly by the head unit. Kindly let me know what you think of this config. Thanks,
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17th October 2006, 13:21	#80
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,685 Thanked: 1,497 Times View My Garage	do check other threads regardign Swift install 6x9 on rear door? NO get 6incher for rear door and dump 6x9
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17th October 2006, 17:23	#82
hydrashok Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In my Office Posts: 2,527 Thanked: 19 Times View My Garage	I second JK on the 6x9s. Don't cut your rear door for 6x9s. With a sub in the boot, you really don't even need 6x9s. 6 or 6.5 inchers will do the job. Components in the back also can add a little to the "trebliness" of the set-up. If you don't sit in the back a lot, co-axials will do in the back. And anyway, driving components off the HU will not give you full bang for the buck (spent on the rear comps). I'm sure you'll be ok with co-axials in the back. (I would opt for co-axials in the rear, if it were my decision).
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17th October 2006, 17:44	#84
Rtech Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,765 Thanked: 371 Times View My Garage	Threads Merged. Please do a search before starting new threads.
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18th October 2006, 10:48	#85
smokie BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 83 Thanked: 17 Times	Sorry RTech, will keep that in mind in the future. Thanks guys for all your suggestions, yes, I will listen to the setup, and use both the ears and the thing between them. ). I have listened to a similar setup to this, that's why I think its pretty good. I will go for a second amp, but not right now, maybe after a while. So I have decided on co-axials on the rear doors, since its mostly going to be me in the car, maybe one more person. Any suggestions for co-axials? One more thing, damping, I know what it is, but with this setup, do I need it?
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18th October 2006, 11:46	#86
amit_sound BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 596 Thanked: 11 Times	Hey somkie, Since you plan to install a sub and in future to get a mono amp and another sub, damp needs to be done... Even with the single sub you will clearly notice your boot and doors rattling.
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25th October 2006, 16:02	#87
Melody Newbie Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 21 Thanked: 0 Times	Hi Guys, I'm very new to the world of cars. I will get my Swift VXi delivered on SAT. Being addicted to music I would love to have a decent sound system in my car. Let me add that I wouldn't prefer a loud "dhoom dhoom" kinda music system. I tried reading the posts in this thread. But I couldn't follow most of the posts eithr coz of my ignorance in this field or coz of the jargons used. So, I would request you to suggest a "nice" music system for the budget of around 15K. I mostly listen to melodious India music. So, you may take that into consideration while suggesting the options. It'll be of great help to me as I'm really confused about this. I reside in Blore.
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25th October 2006, 17:06	#89
Melody Newbie Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 21 Thanked: 0 Times	Thanks Navin. Could you also let me know the recommended brand for HU and Speakers? I also read from this forum that one should use good cables for the installation. Could you please throw some light on that too? Also from where in Blore did you get ur music system installed?
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25th October 2006, 19:55	#90
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (but wat Posts: 6,935 Thanked: 2,483 Times View My Garage	Hi Melody, Navin is not from Bangalore. See his location. There are many good brands you can choose from. For the HU, I recommend you choose between Pioneer, Sony, Blaupunkt. As far as the speakers, there are many good brands to choose from. A brand that makes ONLY speakers will always sound superior. Good wires are a must, but in your case, using the supplied wires (that come with the speakers) I used to know a really hot girl in Bangalore called Melody. If that's you, I'll give you free JBL speakers. Last edited by Sam Kapasi : 25th October 2006 at 19:59.
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