Need help for my Santro rear speaker

speedzak · 2nd September 2006, 22:32

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Originally Posted by AdXing

So what should i do?? please advise.

Seems like a wiring problem. So, Just get it done properly!

Whatever you do, dont let your installer make you think of a capacitor for a setup like this!

AdXing · 2nd September 2006, 22:55

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Originally Posted by speedzak

Seems like a wiring problem. So, Just get it done properly!

Whatever you do, dont let your installer make you think of a capacitor for a setup like this!

ya I thought that this should be quite an easy setup to install... but seems like I went to the wrong place.. but is there any problem with fitting a capacitor?

Anyway, I have told the shop owner that if this problem doesn't go away, then I am not going to pay for the amp and the wirings.

speedzak · 3rd September 2006, 08:38

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Originally Posted by AdXing

ya I thought that this should be quite an easy setup to install... but seems like I went to the wrong place.. but is there any problem with fitting a capacitor?

There is no problem in fitting a cap! It's made to help high end installs. But for your install, adding a cap is not necessary. Not at all needed. The installer is just trying to sell you a cap. That's all!

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Originally Posted by AdXing

Anyway, I have told the shop owner that if this problem doesn't go away, then I am not going to pay for the amp and the wirings.

You have'nt paid him yet??

That's surprising! Normally these guys wont let you go like that.

s0uljah · 3rd September 2006, 13:10

Yeah man it will be something simple like impoper grounding of the amp or botched up connections. Thats why you dont need a capacitor in your particular setup.

AdXing · 3rd September 2006, 21:44

i thought a capacitor is cheap!

Anyway the shop owner said he wont charge me for that...so what say guys?

s0uljah · 3rd September 2006, 22:34

Until the probem is correctyl diagnosed it wont go away so figure out what needs to be done... the cap might not sort it out!!

Sam Kapasi · 4th September 2006, 00:37

I think adxing, you need to get better quality RCA cables and you need to lower the gain on your amplifier.
That should sort you out.

santosh.s · 4th September 2006, 10:43

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Originally Posted by AdXing

well...more update on this... i went to the shop and it was observed that the sound came mostly while honking...it came otherwise also but not so regularly.

the mechanic said that he will fit a capacitor or something like that to get rid of this problem - does it make sense ?

all the technical gurus plzzzzzzzz help me as to what may be the cause of this problem?

some kind of horns are known to create electric interference, which may be audible through speakers. Check this thread, may be you are facing the same problem....
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/car-en...highlight=horn

jkdas · 4th September 2006, 11:02

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Originally Posted by AdXing

guyz

i connected all 4 speakers(GTO427 and GTO936) to the amp and the sound is good.

BUt after running continuously for some time, some strange 'phat phat' sound was coming out sometimes. The frequency of this sound increased as time went by.

Today morning, there is no such strange sound.

Please enlighten me as to what may be the cause of this problem and whats the remedy?

frm all speakers? and all max vol?

as Sam said, check the gain, did you use good RCA? and is this a whistling type of sound? Is the sound ther when the car's parked/engine off.

navin · 4th September 2006, 11:12

I suspect the horn relay is defective. a cap across the horn relay is just band aid better to change the relay itself.

gunbir · 4th September 2006, 11:19

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Originally Posted by navin

I suspect the horn relay is defective. a cap across the horn relay is just band aid better to change the relay itself.

Right on... ALL Santros manufactured between November 2005 and March 2006 (this is the range I have seen thus far, may be more) have this issue. If its just the "pat pat" sound and only when you press the horn, then YES, its the horn relay. Change the relay.

AdXing · 4th September 2006, 12:42

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Originally Posted by jkdas

frm all speakers? and all max vol?

as Sam said, check the gain, did you use good RCA? and is this a whistling type of sound? Is the sound ther when the car's parked/engine off.

jkdas, its coming when souding the horn...and its not a whistling sound.
Also, it comes even when the volume is pretty low.

No sound when car is parked/engine off.

Also the mechanic suspected something wrong with the RCA cable...he tried 3 difference RCA cable, but still the same problem.

So, I suspect the problem may be with the horn relay...I will try to change that and see if the sound goes away.

AdXing · 4th September 2006, 12:43

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Originally Posted by gunbir

Right on... ALL Santros manufactured between November 2005 and March 2006 (this is the range I have seen thus far, may be more) have this issue. If its just the "pat pat" sound and only when you press the horn, then YES, its the horn relay. Change the relay.

Gunbir man, you are spot on...
thats exactly what is happening. Can I get the horn relay changed from the company? How much does a horn relay cost?

AdXing · 4th September 2006, 16:18

Since the audio setup was done outside, will the dealers change the horn relay free of cost? How do I convince them to do it as part of the warranty?

In the worst case, how much I need to pay for a new horn relay?

gunbir · 4th September 2006, 16:44

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Originally Posted by AdXing

Since the audio setup was done outside, will the dealers change the horn relay free of cost? How do I convince them to do it as part of the warranty?

In the worst case, how much I need to pay for a new horn relay?

Not much, a couple of hundred bucks... thats it..

3rd September 2006, 13:10	#79
s0uljah Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: BLR Posts: 2,222 Thanked: 26 Times View My Garage	Yeah man it will be something simple like impoper grounding of the amp or botched up connections. Thats why you dont need a capacitor in your particular setup.
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3rd September 2006, 21:44	#80
AdXing BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: hyderabad Posts: 37 Thanked: 0 Times	i thought a capacitor is cheap! Anyway the shop owner said he wont charge me for that...so what say guys?
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3rd September 2006, 22:34	#81
s0uljah Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: BLR Posts: 2,222 Thanked: 26 Times View My Garage	Until the probem is correctyl diagnosed it wont go away so figure out what needs to be done... the cap might not sort it out!!
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Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (but wat Posts: 6,997 Thanked: 2,378 Times View My Garage	I think adxing, you need to get better quality RCA cables and you need to lower the gain on your amplifier. That should sort you out.
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4th September 2006, 11:12	#85
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,198 Thanked: 9,303 Times	I suspect the horn relay is defective. a cap across the horn relay is just band aid better to change the relay itself.
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4th September 2006, 16:18	#89
AdXing BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: hyderabad Posts: 37 Thanked: 0 Times	Since the audio setup was done outside, will the dealers change the horn relay free of cost? How do I convince them to do it as part of the warranty? In the worst case, how much I need to pay for a new horn relay?
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