DIY Install in My Fiat Palio.

Sam Kapasi · 27th April 2007, 17:10

I can do it for you tomorrow

But then it would be DIS, not DIY.

Technocrat · 27th April 2007, 17:12

You in Pune this weekend Sam ?

moralfibre · 27th April 2007, 17:13

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Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

I can do it for you tomorrow

But then it would be DIS, not DIY.

Wow nothing like it and I can learn how to do it too. But my equipment will go in on Sunday. Can we meet up on Sunday evening?

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You in Pune this weekend Sam ?

Yep, he will be and he is coming to Grand hotel to meet us

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Technocrat · 27th April 2007, 17:19

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Yep, he will be and he is coming to Grand hotel to meet us .

hehe Nice way to tempt people for meet

Sorry for going OT :|

low_bass_makker · 27th April 2007, 17:36

so it is going to be DIS (do it sam) then......hope you have a gala time guys.....

moralfibre · 27th April 2007, 17:44

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Originally Posted by low_bass_makker

so it is going to be DIS (do it sam) then......hope you have a gala time guys.....

No no, I dont think I will let Sam do this. I will do it myself first and then take some tuning tips from Sam.

moralfibre · 5th May 2007, 08:59

Here are a few updated pictures and a small but big problem:

The crossover with input and Midbass connected using spade connectors. The blue cable is from the Ichibahn IKIT8 and the golden cable is Monster 16 gauge:

This is the fuse box cover on the driver side where the crossover will be connected:

Monster cable for the tweeter on dash (temporary):

Midbass mounted on the LHS door:

Amplifier mounted on the back seat using rubber cushion in between:

Another view:

Headunit connections made using solder and heat shrink tubing:

Crimped connections on the amp:

The ground cable, yet to be grounded:

Some damping from Wuerth:

Now the problem:

I broke one of the wires of the tweeter and now I need to solder it back. This is how it looks:

What precautions should I take to solder the cable back? I think I should break the other cable too and directly solder my speaker wire to the tweeter? Please suggest? Thanks

Vid6639 · 5th May 2007, 09:27

do you have a closer pic of the place where the wire broke. Just to see if it's on the outside or it's got broken off from the inside.

moralfibre · 5th May 2007, 09:30

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Originally Posted by vid6639

do you have a closer pic of the place where the wire broke. Just to see if it's on the outside or it's got broken off from the inside.

Vid its only from the outside. The solder spot is still there on the tweeter hence I was confident that I can resolder it. If you look closely the silver spot on the tweeter is the solder spot and about 2 mm of wire is still left.

Vid6639 · 5th May 2007, 09:36

then just resolder it back on. the only thing i can think of is dont keep the soldering iron on the spot for too long, the plastic shouldn't melt. if you remove both the wires and solder it on directly you wont be able move the tweeter easily later. this way atleast you can disconnect and have some flexibility.

also the front door midbass, have you fixed it directly. Did you check the depth. I'm not sure but you may need a mdf spacer ring for that.

moralfibre · 5th May 2007, 09:51

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Originally Posted by vid6639

then just resolder it back on. the only thing i can think of is dont keep the soldering iron on the spot for too long, the plastic shouldn't melt. if you remove both the wires and solder it on directly you wont be able move the tweeter easily later. this way atleast you can disconnect and have some flexibility.

Well I will be careful about the solder. What kind of solder flux should I use?

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also the front door midbass, have you fixed it directly. Did you check the depth. I'm not sure but you may need a mdf spacer ring for that.

I bought an MDF spacer for this car but it doesn't do good so I used some plastic rings that came with the components itself. I have ensure that the speakers dont foul with the power windows too.

navin · 5th May 2007, 10:03

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Originally Posted by moralfibre

What precautions should I take to solder the cable back? I think I should break the other cable too and directly solder my speaker wire to the tweeter? Please suggest? Thanks

Somehow I missed this thread for a few days. Anyways...

a) your speaker wire might be too thick to solder directly on the tweeter.
b) Moral Fibre, there are people who consider themselves blessed if Sam listens or tunes their system (with good reason), you are going to have him help you install! You are a very very lucky man.

Also for the tweeter, use a low watt soldering iron (6W should do) and a fine point. I have seen soldering guns from Soldron that come with a variety of tips.

moralfibre · 5th May 2007, 10:14

Hey Navin and Vid, thanks for the tips.

The thickness of the speakerwire is the only concern for solder. Can I still not do it? No alternatives possible?
I am sure when Sam tunes my system I am going to be in heaven. I have been bugging him with phone calls each weekend to check his availability.

I have managed to procure a 25W Gun from Soldron. Should I buy a different tip. Here is a picture I just took of the gun:

A hi-res image to read the wattage:

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/1...ture029ax6.jpg

low_bass_makker · 5th May 2007, 10:46

my try on my old pioneer tweeter.....it happend like this....I was taking out the tweeter from its pod and by mistake I put the screwdriver from where the wires are coming from the VC to the soldering base.....bus one wire got cut....now I had to repair it...here is a pic of the same....

moralfibre · 5th May 2007, 10:52

Oh My God LBM what happened to your tweeter? It looks to be soaked in a bucket of glue!

27th April 2007, 17:10	#31
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27th April 2007, 17:36	#35
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5th May 2007, 08:59	#37
moralfibre Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: MH-12 Posts: 8,451 Thanked: 13,973 Times	Here are a few updated pictures and a small but big problem: The crossover with input and Midbass connected using spade connectors. The blue cable is from the Ichibahn IKIT8 and the golden cable is Monster 16 gauge: This is the fuse box cover on the driver side where the crossover will be connected: Monster cable for the tweeter on dash (temporary): Midbass mounted on the LHS door: Amplifier mounted on the back seat using rubber cushion in between: Another view: Headunit connections made using solder and heat shrink tubing: Crimped connections on the amp: The ground cable, yet to be grounded: Some damping from Wuerth: Now the problem: I broke one of the wires of the tweeter and now I need to solder it back. This is how it looks: What precautions should I take to solder the cable back? I think I should break the other cable too and directly solder my speaker wire to the tweeter? Please suggest? Thanks
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5th May 2007, 09:27	#38
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,730 Thanked: 43,483 Times View My Garage	do you have a closer pic of the place where the wire broke. Just to see if it's on the outside or it's got broken off from the inside.
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5th May 2007, 09:36	#40
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,730 Thanked: 43,483 Times View My Garage	then just resolder it back on. the only thing i can think of is dont keep the soldering iron on the spot for too long, the plastic shouldn't melt. if you remove both the wires and solder it on directly you wont be able move the tweeter easily later. this way atleast you can disconnect and have some flexibility. also the front door midbass, have you fixed it directly. Did you check the depth. I'm not sure but you may need a mdf spacer ring for that. Last edited by Vid6639 : 5th May 2007 at 09:38.
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5th May 2007, 10:14	#43
moralfibre Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: MH-12 Posts: 8,451 Thanked: 13,973 Times	Hey Navin and Vid, thanks for the tips. The thickness of the speakerwire is the only concern for solder. Can I still not do it? No alternatives possible? I am sure when Sam tunes my system I am going to be in heaven. I have been bugging him with phone calls each weekend to check his availability. I have managed to procure a 25W Gun from Soldron. Should I buy a different tip. Here is a picture I just took of the gun: A hi-res image to read the wattage: http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/1...ture029ax6.jpg
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5th May 2007, 10:46	#44
low_bass_makker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 6,815 Thanked: 305 Times View My Garage	my try on my old pioneer tweeter.....it happend like this....I was taking out the tweeter from its pod and by mistake I put the screwdriver from where the wires are coming from the VC to the soldering base.....bus one wire got cut....now I had to repair it...here is a pic of the same....
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5th May 2007, 10:52	#45
moralfibre Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: MH-12 Posts: 8,451 Thanked: 13,973 Times	Oh My God LBM what happened to your tweeter? It looks to be soaked in a bucket of glue!
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