Frankmehta’s eS(Q)teem®: Eclipse| Illusion Audio| DLS| Genesis| Monster|Hermit

frankmehta · 17th February 2009, 23:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by adityamunshi

Nice install frank. Those lucies look great! I wish B&T would stock them again.

BTW, Are the crossovers and amp mounted on the enclosure ?

hi there adi..
yep, i told b&t to start stocking the Luccents again, but Hermit hai ke maanta nahi..
the amps are mounted on the enclosure, but the x'overs are placed in a stealth kind of way, inside the dashboard. no one can see them, not even me

frankmehta · 17th February 2009, 23:29

The breakup of costs for the components is somewhat like this:
(PS: i haven't mentioned the prices of the stuff i bought used, and i thought i'd put their MRP for convenience, since the actual cost of the entire setup would not be indicative, if I were to furnish the used prices.)

Head Unit: Alpine CDA-9887
Rs. 21000/-

Speakers:

Front: Illusion Audio Luccent IM-6.1 Component System
Rs. 15990/-

Rear: Ground Zero MK2 6”x9” coaxials
Rs. 4950/-

Subwoofer: Illusion Audio Luccent IM-12
Rs. 10,500/-

Amplifiers :

Components and Rear Fills: Ground Zero TA120MK2 4 Channel Power Amplifier
Rs. 10,990/-

Subwoofer: Rockford Fosgate Punch 325.2 2 Channel Power Amplifier
Rs. 5300/- (USA- Crutchfield.com)

Subwoofer Enclosure: Custom Made MDF Enclosure measuring 1.65 Cu. Ft.
Rs. 3500/-

Damping:
NoiseKill in the Front Doors and Boot: 35 Sq ft @ Rs. 150/ sq ft.
Rs. 5250/-

Fiber Glassing in the Front Door Pads
Rs. 1200/-

Wiring:
Illusion Audio 16AWG Reference Series Cabling
Rs. 1050/- *2= Rs. 2100/-

Twister Amplifier Wiring Kit
Rs. 1750/-

Polycab 2GA 6 Mtrs Power Cabling(36 sq. mm)
Rs. 170/- per meter*6= Rs. 1020/-

Boss Audio Wiring
Rs. 350/- (for one RCA for the Rear Ovals)

Ichibahn Fuse and Holder
Rs. 450/-+ Rs. 350/-= Rs. 800

Installation: Rs. 7500/-

Final Cost:
Rs. 92,200/-

PS: Jesus, O Jesus, Let my Dad never see this thread :-(

viper · 18th February 2009, 09:53

Frank,

Only 1 suggestion purely from a practical point of view. Please install a grill to cover the woofer. You don't want to damage it or tear the cone with some loose objects in the boot or whilst putting some luggage in. You can never be too careful and prevention is better than the cure.

Viper

shreyasma · 18th February 2009, 09:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankmehta

Final Cost:
Rs. 92,200/-

am I dreaming!!!

Frank, the thought of doing ICE close to the cost of the car doesnt really strike many people. Hope you take rest for few days before another phase of upgrades.

Quote:

Originally Posted by viper

Frank,

Only 1 suggestion purely from a practical point of view. Please install a grill to cover the woofer. You don't want to damage it or tear the cone with some loose objects in the boot or whilst putting some luggage in. You can never be too careful and prevention is better than the cure.

Viper

Yesterday i happened to see the pio accessories of 2009 products. I liked this and was priced at Rs 450.

frankmehta · 18th February 2009, 11:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by viper

Frank,

Only 1 suggestion purely from a practical point of view. Please install a grill to cover the woofer. You don't want to damage it or tear the cone with some loose objects in the boot or whilst putting some luggage in. You can never be too careful and prevention is better than the cure.

Viper

i was thinking on the same lines, but yesterday I realized that since the motor of the sub is on the outside, there will be no grille available in the market that is going to accommodate the sub. I will have to think of something, or else, will ask B&T to make one out of Fiber Glass.
Thanks for the concern.. I hope i dont forget this soon. there are quite a few sharp objects in my boot.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shreyasma

am I dreaming!!!

Frank, the thought of doing ICE close to the cost of the car doesnt really strike many people. Hope you take rest for few days before another phase of upgrades.

Yesterday i happened to see the pio accessories of 2009 products. I liked this and was priced at Rs 450.

shreyas, this is a one time investment. the only amount I need to spend when i get a new car, the next time around is on damping and installation. the rest is already there

The grille looks good, but somehow i feel I can get better, where even the motor will be protected. thanks though!

gigy · 18th February 2009, 12:37

Frank, now you are putting the cost involved in a public forum, and you were against what i said. both are conveying the same message.
anyways you can go to the hardware shops who sell home accessories and pick up two or three long handles and screw them over the sub enclosure, will look good.

frankmehta · 18th February 2009, 12:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by gigy

Frank, now you are putting the cost involved in a public forum, and you were against what i said. both are conveying the same message.

hey gigy! didnt get you there..
as for the rods, i was thinking on the same lines, but is there enough protection???

gigy · 18th February 2009, 12:54

Can't say it will be enough, but will definitely prevent large things like suitcase banging it.May not prevent an umbrella poking it though.Local like one below don't look good. you can also go the branded way if IA sub has something. the pio one posted above may not fit the IA, will have to confirm it from the gurus.

frankmehta · 18th February 2009, 13:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by gigy

Can't say it will be enough, but will definitely prevent large things like suitcase banging it.May not prevent an umbrella poking it though.Local like one below don't look good. you can also go the branded way if IA sub has something. the pio one posted above may not fit the IA, will have to confirm it from the gurus.

hey gigy, i have one of those local grilles. but that will mask the beauty of the illusion sub. might think of something on the lines of acrylic. dad sells it, so will have a word with him on that. will need to perforate it or something..

hydrashok · 18th February 2009, 13:22

@frank, about the grille, maybe you can try and see if you can get a piece of circular plexiglass cut to the diameter of the sub + 2 inches. Biggish round holes (say of 2 cms diameter) can be drilled in the plexiglass circle. It can then be screwed over the sub with small plexiglass spacers (maybe 2cm tall) at just the points where the screws go into the MDF.

If you want to be adventurous (and want to spend more money heh, heh) you can get the Illusion logo etched onto the plexiglass circle.

This will look nice & classy, will protect the sub well, and will cost a bit of money

(How much money, I have no idea as I haven't done this before).

EDIT: Just saw your post. Looks like we had about the same thing in mind. Acrylic will do the job well too!

frankmehta · 18th February 2009, 13:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by hydrashok

@frank, about the grille, maybe you can try and see if you can get a piece of circular plexiglass cut to the diameter of the sub + 2 inches. Biggish round holes (say of 2 cms diameter) can be drilled in the plexiglass circle. It can then be screwed over the sub with small plexiglass spacers (maybe 2cm tall) at just the points where the screws go into the MDF.

If you want to be adventurous (and want to spend more money heh, heh) you can get the Illusion logo etched onto the plexiglass circle.

This will look nice & classy, will protect the sub well, and will cost a bit of money

(How much money, I have no idea as I haven't done this before).

EDIT: Just saw your post. Looks like we had about the same thing in mind. Acrylic will do the job well too!

anup ji, dad deals in acrylic and plexi, so costs will be inconsequential. i might just use a sample that he gets.. lol!
besides that, the etching part i shall speak to him about. just wanted you to have a look at the sub side on, in my pics, and you shall see the motor jutting out. do you think i can accommodate it in one circular piece???? fabrication is really expensive!

sai_ace · 18th February 2009, 13:32

@frank

I am very much an ICE amateur but your ICE setup looks extremely inviting and fabulous. The itch to start earning soon has just become bigger

great pics and a great write up!

Technocrat · 18th February 2009, 13:34

Dont put that metal grille, it has scratched my sub on edges(as it became loose & I couldn't detect it in time) in the last 3 years of usage. Its still on buy I keep tightening the holding screws

DerAlte · 18th February 2009, 13:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankmehta

... PS: Jesus, O Jesus, Let my Dad never see this thread :-(

Errr, can you post your dad's mobile number or email id? Perhaps we can help Jesus do the right thing? May be we can call your dad and tell him not to look at this thread!

frankmehta · 18th February 2009, 13:47

here's my dad's number:
1-800-DOYOUWANTMEDEAD ???

email address:

deraltepleasepleasepleasedont@canilive.com

17th February 2009, 23:29	#287
frankmehta Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,000 Thanked: 3,577 Times View My Garage	The breakup of costs for the components is somewhat like this: (PS: i haven't mentioned the prices of the stuff i bought used, and i thought i'd put their MRP for convenience, since the actual cost of the entire setup would not be indicative, if I were to furnish the used prices.) Head Unit: Alpine CDA-9887 Rs. 21000/- Speakers: Front: Illusion Audio Luccent IM-6.1 Component System Rs. 15990/- Rear: Ground Zero MK2 6”x9” coaxials Rs. 4950/- Subwoofer: Illusion Audio Luccent IM-12 Rs. 10,500/- Amplifiers : Components and Rear Fills: Ground Zero TA120MK2 4 Channel Power Amplifier Rs. 10,990/- Subwoofer: Rockford Fosgate Punch 325.2 2 Channel Power Amplifier Rs. 5300/- (USA- Crutchfield.com) Subwoofer Enclosure: Custom Made MDF Enclosure measuring 1.65 Cu. Ft. Rs. 3500/- Damping: NoiseKill in the Front Doors and Boot: 35 Sq ft @ Rs. 150/ sq ft. Rs. 5250/- Fiber Glassing in the Front Door Pads Rs. 1200/- Wiring: Illusion Audio 16AWG Reference Series Cabling *Rs. 1050/- 2= Rs. 2100/- Twister Amplifier Wiring Kit Rs. 1750/- Polycab 2GA 6 Mtrs Power Cabling(36 sq. mm) Rs. 170/- per meter6= Rs. 1020/-* Boss Audio Wiring Rs. 350/- (for one RCA for the Rear Ovals) Ichibahn Fuse and Holder Rs. 450/-+ Rs. 350/-= Rs. 800 Installation: Rs. 7500/- Final Cost: Rs. 92,200/- PS: Jesus, O Jesus, Let my Dad never see this thread :-( Last edited by frankmehta : 17th February 2009 at 23:30.
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18th February 2009, 09:53	#288
viper BANNED Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,773 Thanked: 19 Times	Frank, Only 1 suggestion purely from a practical point of view. Please install a grill to cover the woofer. You don't want to damage it or tear the cone with some loose objects in the boot or whilst putting some luggage in. You can never be too careful and prevention is better than the cure. Viper
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gigy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 1,321 Thanked: 47 Times	Frank, now you are putting the cost involved in a public forum, and you were against what i said. both are conveying the same message. anyways you can go to the hardware shops who sell home accessories and pick up two or three long handles and screw them over the sub enclosure, will look good. Last edited by gigy : 18th February 2009 at 12:39.
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gigy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 1,321 Thanked: 47 Times	Can't say it will be enough, but will definitely prevent large things like suitcase banging it.May not prevent an umbrella poking it though.Local like one below don't look good. you can also go the branded way if IA sub has something. the pio one posted above may not fit the IA, will have to confirm it from the gurus. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by gigy : 18th February 2009 at 13:02.
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hydrashok Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In my Office Posts: 2,528 Thanked: 17 Times View My Garage	@frank, about the grille, maybe you can try and see if you can get a piece of circular plexiglass cut to the diameter of the sub + 2 inches. Biggish round holes (say of 2 cms diameter) can be drilled in the plexiglass circle. It can then be screwed over the sub with small plexiglass spacers (maybe 2cm tall) at just the points where the screws go into the MDF. If you want to be adventurous (and want to spend more money heh, heh) you can get the Illusion logo etched onto the plexiglass circle. This will look nice & classy, will protect the sub well, and will cost a bit of money (How much money, I have no idea as I haven't done this before). EDIT: Just saw your post. Looks like we had about the same thing in mind. Acrylic will do the job well too! Last edited by hydrashok : 18th February 2009 at 13:24.
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18th February 2009, 13:32	#297
sai_ace BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: CBE-BLR-MAS Posts: 431 Thanked: 687 Times	@frank I am very much an ICE amateur but your ICE setup looks extremely inviting and fabulous. The itch to start earning soon has just become bigger great pics and a great write up!
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Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,813 Thanked: 2,701 Times	Dont put that metal grille, it has scratched my sub on edges(as it became loose & I couldn't detect it in time) in the last 3 years of usage. Its still on buy I keep tightening the holding screws
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18th February 2009, 13:47	#300
frankmehta Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,000 Thanked: 3,577 Times View My Garage	here's my dad's number: 1-800-DOYOUWANTMEDEAD ??? email address: deraltepleasepleasepleasedont@canilive.com Last edited by frankmehta : 18th February 2009 at 13:50.
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