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vikram18 · 8th February 2009, 21:33

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Originally Posted by frankmehta

CDT crossover lying unused??? what makes you think the 7100 has better processing than the actual crossover itself? im quite keen to know how its sounds with and without the crossover! vikram please let us know

The active setup is what I liked best. Ask the Hermit; I'm sure he agrees

frankmehta · 8th February 2009, 21:50

NICE! hermit must be busy with his usual activities right now. tomorrow morning when he goes to his office he will reply. till that time im still doing reading on active vs passive

abhinav.gupta88 · 8th February 2009, 21:54

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Originally Posted by frankmehta

he's doing the install as always so i shall speak to him tomorrow. the sub is almost finalized!
**beware** its the most unexpected upgrade!!
no spl, no sqpl pure sq!

Waiting for this anxiously.

frankmehta · 8th February 2009, 22:48

Dhoom Car Audio

This is the one!!!!!!!

abhibh · 8th February 2009, 23:03

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Originally Posted by frankmehta

Dhoom Car Audio

This is the one!!!!!!!

Congrats Frank. Nice choice of equipment there.

A little suggestion though. This might compliment your Lucies pretty well.

Lucent Tweeters

frankmehta · 8th February 2009, 23:06

nice, and ill use a Sumsang/Nakomirchi crossover with them!

navin · 8th February 2009, 23:08

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Originally Posted by abhinav.gupta88

How will the transfer function being linear help the decision to use the Alpine and biamp?

if the transfer fuction is a simple linear 2nd/3rd/4th order XO then you can use an electronic XO and not worry about things such as frequency/impedance response anomalies of the woofer or tweeter.

abhinav.gupta88 · 8th February 2009, 23:28

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Originally Posted by navin

if the transfer fuction is a simple linear 2nd/3rd/4th order XO then you can use an electronic XO and not worry about things such as frequency/impedance response anomalies of the woofer or tweeter.

So this should be checked on every HU have a XO in built to decide which XO to use?

EDIT :
Excellent choice Doc

frankmehta · 8th February 2009, 23:33

back to business! im still reading my eyes out on active vs passive, but to no avail

hydrashok · 9th February 2009, 10:59

@frank, if you have 4+1 channels of amplification, you can always try the active setup for a while. The only additional expense will be a bit extra money on speaker-wires. Since you don't have crossovers for the Luccent speakers with you anyway, maybe you can skip buying the Luccent XO, and spend that money on speaker wires.

OR, run the setup passive for a while and then later, try running it active. You will be able to postpone the upgrade-itch :P for a bit longer, as this will be a nice change in the setup. You'll also be able to judge for yourself which setup you like best.

frankmehta · 9th February 2009, 11:05

im anyways getting the tweet and xo from hermit audio. i can try both.
i have only 4 channels of amplification, from the ground zero TA120Mk2 amp. the 5th and 6th channels are only for the sub.
hence when i go there, i will be able to decide. by the way, my front door pads are being fibre glassed as we speak, and damping is going to be done in places where there's no fibre. that will surely make a big difference, as there was minimal amount of damping on the doors earlier.

arpandiv · 9th February 2009, 11:13

frankie we want pics of the work in progress.

frankmehta · 9th February 2009, 11:20

ajay kamath is getting it done at his warehouse! can you please put up a couple of pics of the fibre glassing if possible b&t?

hydrashok · 9th February 2009, 11:37

@frank, you'll need a minimum of 4+1 channels to go active with the 9887 (in front + sub mode): 2 channels for the tweeters, 2 channels for the midbasses and one channel for the sub. In addition to the 4-ch amp, You have an RF mono with you, right?

Bass&Trouble · 9th February 2009, 12:14

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Originally Posted by vikram18

The active setup is what I liked best. Ask the Hermit; I'm sure he agrees

Yup. But that was also because you werent able to get the power you desired running to the speakers. So, bridging or going active were the only two options.

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Originally Posted by frankmehta

back to business! im still reading my eyes out on active vs passive, but to no avail

Frankie, dont do the active business. Its not like we can reduce the XO frequency greatly or get the Lucies to do anything extraordinary. It sounds just right with the supplied crossovers and theres a very very wide range of tweeter attenuation possible.

If you do want to do something fancy, we could bi-amp the set.

8th February 2009, 21:50	#212
frankmehta Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,029 Thanked: 3,668 Times View My Garage	NICE! hermit must be busy with his usual activities right now. tomorrow morning when he goes to his office he will reply. till that time im still doing reading on active vs passive
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8th February 2009, 22:48	#214
frankmehta Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,029 Thanked: 3,668 Times View My Garage	Dhoom Car Audio This is the one!!!!!!!
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8th February 2009, 23:06	#216
frankmehta Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,029 Thanked: 3,668 Times View My Garage	nice, and ill use a Sumsang/Nakomirchi crossover with them!
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frankmehta Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,029 Thanked: 3,668 Times View My Garage	back to business! im still reading my eyes out on active vs passive, but to no avail Last edited by frankmehta : 8th February 2009 at 23:48.
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9th February 2009, 10:59	#220
hydrashok Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In my Office Posts: 2,527 Thanked: 19 Times View My Garage	@frank, if you have 4+1 channels of amplification, you can always try the active setup for a while. The only additional expense will be a bit extra money on speaker-wires. Since you don't have crossovers for the Luccent speakers with you anyway, maybe you can skip buying the Luccent XO, and spend that money on speaker wires. OR, run the setup passive for a while and then later, try running it active. You will be able to postpone the upgrade-itch :P for a bit longer, as this will be a nice change in the setup. You'll also be able to judge for yourself which setup you like best.
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9th February 2009, 11:05	#221
frankmehta Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,029 Thanked: 3,668 Times View My Garage	im anyways getting the tweet and xo from hermit audio. i can try both. i have only 4 channels of amplification, from the ground zero TA120Mk2 amp. the 5th and 6th channels are only for the sub. hence when i go there, i will be able to decide. by the way, my front door pads are being fibre glassed as we speak, and damping is going to be done in places where there's no fibre. that will surely make a big difference, as there was minimal amount of damping on the doors earlier.
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9th February 2009, 11:13	#222
arpandiv BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 444 Thanked: 62 Times View My Garage	frankie we want pics of the work in progress.
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9th February 2009, 11:20	#223
frankmehta Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,029 Thanked: 3,668 Times View My Garage	ajay kamath is getting it done at his warehouse! can you please put up a couple of pics of the fibre glassing if possible b&t?
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9th February 2009, 11:37	#224
hydrashok Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In my Office Posts: 2,527 Thanked: 19 Times View My Garage	@frank, you'll need a minimum of 4+1 channels to go active with the 9887 (in front + sub mode): 2 channels for the tweeters, 2 channels for the midbasses and one channel for the sub. In addition to the 4-ch amp, You have an RF mono with you, right?
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