Ipod with Punto Emotion Stereo?

king_julian · 22nd June 2009, 14:46

Hello,

While the Punto Emotion Pack had a USB connector in the glove box, there is no such connector in the "regular" Punto Emotion. Does this mean that there is no way to connect an Ipod to the integrated stereo? If so, can one change the head unit easily to one that supports a USB connection?

Thank you,
Amit.

RishiSuri · 22nd June 2009, 15:49

If the stereo has an Aux Input, You can connect your IPod with that.
I connect my Ipod on Pioneer Stereo through the Aux INput. The effect is phenominal.

Sam Kapasi · 23rd June 2009, 12:43

Just having a USB connector does not guaratee that an iPod will play through it.
There are units that can read an iPod using the white iPod to USB cable (supplied with the iPod):

These units are generally distinguishable by the presence of this logo.

Ipod with Punto Emotion Stereo?-made_for_ipod_l.jpg

Otherwise in most cases, the USB is simply designed to read information off a FAT32 formatted data drive. The drive could be solid state (SD card in a reader/ pendrive/ thumbdrive) or a magnetic drive (HDD etc.)

king_julian · 24th June 2009, 15:53

Thanks guys,

I didn't see any IPOD logo, so I guess it will just consider it as a mass storage device. As IPOD doesn't store music in folders, I wonder if this means that I will have to duplicate the music collection? Need to check that.

Meanwhile I found a cable on the net that will connect a Blaupunkt head unit to an IPOD- not sure if this will work with the factory supplied head unit though.

@Rishi - unfortunately the head unit does not have an aux-in or we wouldn't be having this discussion

Amit.

anoops · 24th June 2009, 17:31

ive got another problem with the i20. its got a USB port that is (supposed to be, atleast) ipod ready. now for the strange bit. once you hook the ipod the stereo plays random tracks from the ipod, the track name display is also strange. you cant access playlists, artists etc. and iam not too sure it plays the mp4 tracks only the mp3s that are loaded on the ipod!! so i use the AUX output to play my ipod.
any body know how to deal with this??

DerAlte · 24th June 2009, 23:25

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Originally Posted by king_julian

... Meanwhile I found a cable on the net that will connect a Blaupunkt head unit to an IPOD- not sure if this will work with the factory supplied head unit though.

@Rishi - unfortunately the head unit does not have an aux-in ...

Not sure if *all*, but *most* Blau HUs - OE as well as after-market - have Aux-in available on the main connector at the same pin position. That's standardization for you. The Punto and Linea OE HUs are unlikely to be exceptions. Check with a Blau dealer if they have the 500 bucks Aux-in cable (has a blue connector at one end and a 3.5mm jack at the other). They can access the rear of your HU and check if the cable works in the standard position in the HU.

The iPod cable that you found should have a box somewhere in the middle which works on the C&C interface (older HUs had iPod interfaced over the CD Changer interface). If the HU in the Punto is 2008 vintage, it is supposed to be compatible to that cable. Check the Linea thread on the same subject.

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Originally Posted by anoops

... its got a USB port that is (supposed to be, atleast) ipod ready. ... the stereo plays random tracks from the ipod, the track name display is also strange. you cant access playlists, artists etc. ...

And how would you infer that it is 'supposed to be iPod compatible'? Did you check in the manual? If it is playing the song as it should sound, there is nothing wrong with the USB part or the iPod.

Consider the following: the HU is accepting the iPod as a storage entity over USB (pen drive, HDD, etc.) and also your iPod is enabled for use as a storage (check setting in iTunes). HU is picking files from this storage in physical storage order, and playing them as it is supposed to. In this mode, HU cannot / does not command and control the iPod, hence no playlists, artistes, et al. iPod stores all music as files in folders (contrary to @king_julian's expectation), only the UI shows up on the iPod the way you understand it. Track name etc. is strange since the HU is displaying *file name* - which is gibberish on an iPod; if your HU is set to display ID tags, it will show them properly.

Perhaps you could check the above with your iPod and HU? Not sure if your HU can handle mp4 files.

king_julian · 29th June 2009, 10:45

@DerAlte - That is some fantastic info - you are really a car audio Guru

BTW, about the iPod folders, I guess this is what I wanted to say - if you connect the iPod to the HU as a hard drive and still want to access your music in a meaningful form, e.g. by album, then you will need to copy all the songs to the iPod again - this time arranging them in appropriate folders. Then you can navigate the folders and play the songs in them one after another. True?

Thanks again,
Amit.

JayD · 29th June 2009, 10:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by DerAlte

And how would you infer that it is 'supposed to be iPod compatible'? Did you check in the manual? If it is playing the song as it should sound, there is nothing wrong with the USB part or the iPod.

The i20 is indeed ipod compatible. Below the usb slot, its clearly written IPOD USB

Quote:

Originally Posted by king_julian

@DerAlte - That is some fantastic info - you are really a car audio Guru

BTW, about the iPod folders, I guess this is what I wanted to say - if you connect the iPod to the HU as a hard drive and still want to access your music in a meaningful form, e.g. by album, then you will need to copy all the songs to the iPod again - this time arranging them in appropriate folders. Then you can navigate the folders and play the songs in them one after another. True?

Thanks again,
Amit.

Just go to itunes, and disable disk use. Pls update on how this works out, as i will be going in for an i20 soon, and ipod function is essential for me.

DerAlte · 29th June 2009, 12:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by king_julian

... you are really a car audio Guru ...

No, not at all, I am just another moderator.

Quote:

Originally Posted by king_julian

... you will need to copy all the songs to the iPod again - this time arranging them in appropriate folders. Then you can navigate the folders and play the songs in them one after another. True?...

Yes, you can, but that will be too much work for too little gain from an iPod, and one would have to use twice the storage area! Better to use a conventional portable HDD or USB if iPod is not supported. The advantage of the iPod is the logical and contextual organization via iTunes, which needs additional work to achieve with conventional PMPs and drives.

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Originally Posted by JayD

The i20 is indeed ipod compatible. Below the usb slot, its clearly written IPOD USB

@anoops has an i20. @king_julian has or wants to get a Punto.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayD

Just go to itunes, and disable disk use. Pls update on how this works out, ...

Good idea - will help others know.

king_julian · 29th June 2009, 17:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by DerAlte

@anoops has an i20. @king_julian has or wants to get a Punto.

Good idea - will help others know.

@JayD - sorry to give you a wrong impression - I am trying to do some research ahead of the purchase to see where I would stand if I buy a Punto. I guess @anoops could help you out with the i20 like DerAlte said.

Thanks,
Amit.

anoops · 2nd July 2009, 10:52

quote DerAlte
"No, not at all, I am just another moderator."
...and nothing more, thats pretty clear mate!!

pradster · 2nd July 2009, 12:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by DerAlte

Not sure if *all*, but *most* Blau HUs - OE as well as after-market - have Aux-in available on the main connector at the same pin position. That's standardization for you. The Punto and Linea OE HUs are unlikely to be exceptions. Check with a Blau dealer if they have the 500 bucks Aux-in cable (has a blue connector at one end and a 3.5mm jack at the other). They can access the rear of your HU and check if the cable works in the standard position in the HU.

Awesome bit of info. Thanks a ton DerAlte, I have most of my music stored on my Zune ( I am not an apple guy) and the only route i could take was either the Zune car FM transmitter or not buy the linea at all..

If true this should make my decision easier!

NSK123 · 11th August 2009, 17:09

Hi,

When I press the CD button twice in Blaupunkt stereo (D323 CD - MP3), it shows "Aux" on the display. I assume that it is looking for an auxiliary input like, USB/ iPod. But it doesn't have any aux cables.

The stereo has come as a standard fitment with my Fiat Grande Punto Emotion (Not Emotion Pack). I think Emotion & Emotion pack has the same stereo while, Emotion Pack has USB connectivity & Bluetooth.

Can anyone advice on how & where I can get a aux cable for this? I enquired with Prerana motors in Bangalore and most of the spares are not available including this.

infinitesadness · 23rd November 2009, 19:56

I'm in Mumbai and am looking for a solution to the same problem. I need to connect either USB storage device (preferably a pen drive) of a portable music player. How can I manage this without changing the HU?

NSK123 · 4th May 2010, 13:54

Finally, I was able to connect Aux-in cable to my Punto Emotion (no PLUS) stereo. Could connect to iPod, My Nokia phone and was able to take calls. Will upload the images soon.

22nd June 2009, 14:46	#1
king_julian BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 99 Thanked: 3 Times View My Garage	Ipod with Punto Emotion Stereo? Hello, While the Punto Emotion Pack had a USB connector in the glove box, there is no such connector in the "regular" Punto Emotion. Does this mean that there is no way to connect an Ipod to the integrated stereo? If so, can one change the head unit easily to one that supports a USB connection? Thank you, Amit.
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22nd June 2009, 15:49	#2
RishiSuri BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 263 Thanked: 84 Times View My Garage	If the stereo has an Aux Input, You can connect your IPod with that. I connect my Ipod on Pioneer Stereo through the Aux INput. The effect is phenominal.
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23rd June 2009, 12:43	#3
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (but wat Posts: 6,939 Thanked: 2,479 Times View My Garage	Just having a USB connector does not guaratee that an iPod will play through it. There are units that can read an iPod using the white iPod to USB cable (supplied with the iPod): These units are generally distinguishable by the presence of this logo. Otherwise in most cases, the USB is simply designed to read information off a FAT32 formatted data drive. The drive could be solid state (SD card in a reader/ pendrive/ thumbdrive) or a magnetic drive (HDD etc.)
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24th June 2009, 15:53	#4
king_julian BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 99 Thanked: 3 Times View My Garage	Thanks guys, I didn't see any IPOD logo, so I guess it will just consider it as a mass storage device. As IPOD doesn't store music in folders, I wonder if this means that I will have to duplicate the music collection? Need to check that. Meanwhile I found a cable on the net that will connect a Blaupunkt head unit to an IPOD- not sure if this will work with the factory supplied head unit though. @Rishi - unfortunately the head unit does not have an aux-in or we wouldn't be having this discussion Amit. Last edited by king_julian : 24th June 2009 at 15:57.
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24th June 2009, 17:31	#5
anoops BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: bangalore Posts: 182 Thanked: 4 Times	ive got another problem with the i20. its got a USB port that is (supposed to be, atleast) ipod ready. now for the strange bit. once you hook the ipod the stereo plays random tracks from the ipod, the track name display is also strange. you cant access playlists, artists etc. and iam not too sure it plays the mp4 tracks only the mp3s that are loaded on the ipod!! so i use the AUX output to play my ipod. any body know how to deal with this?? Last edited by anoops : 24th June 2009 at 17:40.
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29th June 2009, 10:45	#7
king_julian BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 99 Thanked: 3 Times View My Garage	@DerAlte - That is some fantastic info - you are really a car audio Guru BTW, about the iPod folders, I guess this is what I wanted to say - if you connect the iPod to the HU as a hard drive and still want to access your music in a meaningful form, e.g. by album, then you will need to copy all the songs to the iPod again - this time arranging them in appropriate folders. Then you can navigate the folders and play the songs in them one after another. True? Thanks again, Amit.
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2nd July 2009, 10:52	#11
anoops BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: bangalore Posts: 182 Thanked: 4 Times	quote DerAlte "No, not at all, I am just another moderator." ...and nothing more, thats pretty clear mate!! Last edited by anoops : 2nd July 2009 at 11:00.
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11th August 2009, 17:09	#13
NSK123 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 156 Thanked: 97 Times	"Aux-in" in Blaupunkt stereo (D323 CD - MP3) in Fiat Grande Punto Emotion Hi, When I press the CD button twice in Blaupunkt stereo (D323 CD - MP3), it shows "Aux" on the display. I assume that it is looking for an auxiliary input like, USB/ iPod. But it doesn't have any aux cables. The stereo has come as a standard fitment with my Fiat Grande Punto Emotion (Not Emotion Pack). I think Emotion & Emotion pack has the same stereo while, Emotion Pack has USB connectivity & Bluetooth. Can anyone advice on how & where I can get a aux cable for this? I enquired with Prerana motors in Bangalore and most of the spares are not available including this. Last edited by Jaggu : 11th August 2009 at 18:02. Reason: Please use Search and continue in an existing thread, thanks
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23rd November 2009, 19:56	#14
infinitesadness Newbie Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 11 Thanked: 3 Times	I'm in Mumbai and am looking for a solution to the same problem. I need to connect either USB storage device (preferably a pen drive) of a portable music player. How can I manage this without changing the HU?
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4th May 2010, 13:54	#15
NSK123 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 156 Thanked: 97 Times	Finally, I was able to connect Aux-in cable to my Punto Emotion (no PLUS) stereo. Could connect to iPod, My Nokia phone and was able to take calls. Will upload the images soon.
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