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jkdas · 16th May 2006, 19:49

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Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

The new one is also available called the GTO1204BR, Also a new sealed box (the first sealed box) from CS series, but with a GTO woofer inside, the CS1204B

The un-offical JBL guy needs to be educated/updated!

navin · 16th May 2006, 22:18

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Originally Posted by rsjaurr

My choice would be........

1.Alpine 9847 -- 11k
5.ID subw with box 8k [???]
U can also have a look at JBL's SQ cousin i.e. Infinty.

And i would STRONGLY ADVISE u to not to look beyond alpine HU and amplifier.

1. 9847 for 11K with B&W?
2. ID sub for 8K with box?
3. Infinity is definitely more refined than JBL. JBL is a rocker's speaker, Infinity can rock too but has finesse as well. In fact I have heard some Infinity models that can rock with the best of them like the SM150. If you are considering Infinity I would also consider Alpine's Type R.

Sam, does Infinity sell EMIT/EMIM based driver in India. I have not come across any.

swale84 · 17th May 2006, 11:12

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Originally Posted by jkdas

wheel stays ther!...http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/car-en...ub-santro.html

For the Getz setup: http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/car-en...tall-help.html

Wow thats really something! Didnt know it could be done like that........
Still waiting for someone to suggest a good place to get the installing done in South Bombay.

malgudi · 17th May 2006, 11:12

Navin,
I havent heard Infinity as yet. will do that before I finalize the install.

since I have no idea about amps, can anyone suggest me a good 4 channel amp(make and model number) in the range of 10K-15K?

In the meanwhile I shall search through this forum for amps.

Sam Kapasi · 17th May 2006, 11:46

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Originally Posted by navin

Sam, does Infinity sell EMIT/EMIM based driver in India. I have not come across any.

Yes Navin, the Kappa 6X9 have EMIT tweeters

navin · 17th May 2006, 11:47

Any EMIT componets? Please! Please! :-) Actually the EMIMs sound even more wonderful. Maybe it is becuase the ear is so sensitive in the midrange.

Sam Kapasi · 17th May 2006, 11:51

you sound so excited.

Sorry, No EMIM and EMIT only on the 6X9. I guess not too many Navin's around to appreciate EMIT components.

Vivekphadnis · 17th May 2006, 11:54

what is EMIM/ EMIT? Please explain.

navin · 17th May 2006, 11:59

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Originally Posted by malgudi

Navin,
I havent heard Infinity as yet. will do that before I finalize the install. .

Visit othe car audio forums and you will find a large number of Alpine-Infinity systems. JBL has a dynamic immediacy to their sound. Every studio I have worked in (in NYC) had a pair of JBL/UREI monitors never mind if their main room was equipped with other brands.

When I was younger I had a pair of JBL 18" pro woofers mated to JBL 8" midbass and JBL Horn mid and tweeter. All powered by 4 200W/ch stereo Adcom amps (GFA 555). That system could rock. I mean it could part your hair. Everything including Jazz and Classical Orchestra sounded so alive.

Then as I grew older the JBLs were replaced by Dynaudio, Focal, Vifa, Morel and ScanSpeak. It is not that these products sound better than JBL it is just that they sound a bit more refined. The system does not aound as alive anymore but it is able to resolve a bit more.

navin · 17th May 2006, 12:08

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Originally Posted by Vivekphadnis

what is EMIM/ EMIT? Please explain.

http://www.infinity-classics.de/infi...-Reference.htm
http://www.speakerrepair.com/Merchan...ity-Diaphragms

http://www.bobbyshred.com/emit.html

Vivekphadnis · 17th May 2006, 12:20

Got it. i have seen them on diyaudio.com.

navin · 17th May 2006, 12:33

Vivek this side east of the Heil AMTs these devices produce great sound but require complex XOs. So far I have stayed away from AMTs and EMIT and EMIMs for this reason. Some years back I tried to build a 36" high x 12" wide wide range electrostatic panel using NdFeB magnets and mylar etched with copper. It was a disaster. The sound was coloured but was dynamic. I finally dumped them in favour of a pair of Maggie SMGa mounted on a 12" Velodyne.

Everyone once in a while I get the urge to develop a electrostatic panel. Maybe B&T with his PI connections can help.

My dream...TL 8" or 10" woofer mated to SEMIM (large EMIM) at 200-250Hz mated to EMIT at 4000-5000Hz in car. The SEMIM/EMIT panel can double as the rear deck (sutiably protected).

Autophile · 17th May 2006, 12:40

Older Infinities used to have EMIT tweeters and midranges. I still remember one of my friend, used have tall infinity speakers, dont remember the model with 2 X 12" Bass Drivers, Dome Midrange and EMIT Tweeters front and back. He later on sold them and bought Tannoy Definition D900 with Supetweeter.

zephyr1973 · 17th May 2006, 14:24

Dear BHPians,

Need your expert comments on Pioneer DEH 6850 and DEH 5850...

Regards,
Anand.

zephyr1973 · 17th May 2006, 14:34

Need another info from Sam or other BHPians... What is the current cost of JBL GTO506Ce and GTO936e.

Did it get reduced by any chance ?

Cheers,
Anand.

17th May 2006, 11:12	#3439
malgudi BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 355 Thanked: 184 Times View My Garage	Navin, I havent heard Infinity as yet. will do that before I finalize the install. since I have no idea about amps, can anyone suggest me a good 4 channel amp(make and model number) in the range of 10K-15K? In the meanwhile I shall search through this forum for amps.
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17th May 2006, 11:47	#3441
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,418 Thanked: 9,994 Times	Any EMIT componets? Please! Please! :-) Actually the EMIMs sound even more wonderful. Maybe it is becuase the ear is so sensitive in the midrange.
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17th May 2006, 11:51	#3442
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (but wat Posts: 6,935 Thanked: 2,482 Times View My Garage	you sound so excited. Sorry, No EMIM and EMIT only on the 6X9. I guess not too many Navin's around to appreciate EMIT components.
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17th May 2006, 11:54	#3443
Vivekphadnis BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 690 Thanked: 2 Times	what is EMIM/ EMIT? Please explain.
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17th May 2006, 12:20	#3446
Vivekphadnis BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 690 Thanked: 2 Times	Got it. i have seen them on diyaudio.com.
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17th May 2006, 12:33	#3447
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,418 Thanked: 9,994 Times	Vivek this side east of the Heil AMTs these devices produce great sound but require complex XOs. So far I have stayed away from AMTs and EMIT and EMIMs for this reason. Some years back I tried to build a 36" high x 12" wide wide range electrostatic panel using NdFeB magnets and mylar etched with copper. It was a disaster. The sound was coloured but was dynamic. I finally dumped them in favour of a pair of Maggie SMGa mounted on a 12" Velodyne. Everyone once in a while I get the urge to develop a electrostatic panel. Maybe B&T with his PI connections can help. My dream...TL 8" or 10" woofer mated to SEMIM (large EMIM) at 200-250Hz mated to EMIT at 4000-5000Hz in car. The SEMIM/EMIT panel can double as the rear deck (sutiably protected).
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17th May 2006, 12:40	#3448
Autophile BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 931 Thanked: 4 Times	Older Infinities used to have EMIT tweeters and midranges. I still remember one of my friend, used have tall infinity speakers, dont remember the model with 2 X 12" Bass Drivers, Dome Midrange and EMIT Tweeters front and back. He later on sold them and bought Tannoy Definition D900 with Supetweeter.
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17th May 2006, 14:24	#3449
zephyr1973 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 13 Thanked: 0 Times	Dear BHPians, Need your expert comments on Pioneer DEH 6850 and DEH 5850... Regards, Anand.
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17th May 2006, 14:34	#3450
zephyr1973 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 13 Thanked: 0 Times	Need another info from Sam or other BHPians... What is the current cost of JBL GTO506Ce and GTO936e. Did it get reduced by any chance ? Cheers, Anand.
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