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ramie2400 · 17th August 2008, 21:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by ankitahuja

but what is a SWWS setup?

Subwoofer installed in Spare Wheel Well.

Example:Source Google

gunbir · 17th August 2008, 21:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by naman

@gunbir : Will get in touch with you sometime. The thing I'm most skeptical about is the SWWS (as l_b_m sir pointed). In your opinion how does this kind of sub sound? Have to discuss this issue in detail. Is it possible to get an audition of this setup. Also, I like tight bass rather than boom boom.

Please suggest other ways if any to save boot space and have a good sub install. How about getting a contoured custom enclosed box in such a shape that it fits one side properly.

This is pure speculation. SWWS will not yield a boomy sound if used with a quality sub. SWWS can be done with two configurations: Infinite Baffle or Sealed fiberglass enclosure. IB done properly, you will get a smooth low end, but dependency on midbass will increase.

That said, if you like top end whack (kick bass) then a sealed or ported enclosure may be more suitable. Do audition stuff and make your call.

A sealed sideways sub enclosure is doable and practical.

rev_hard · 18th August 2008, 02:22

I came across a few pics of a SWWS on yarisworld dot com.

This IMO does NOT look like a JUGGAR! I'm sure Gunbir and JB can have this kind of install done for you Naman.

With 37k, I'd have bought better components by rainbow or ID and a 10'' sub installed as a SWWS. Kenwood amp is being used by a friend of mine in an SX4 paired to hertz energy comps and 2 ways. It is a very reliable amp and performs well worth every penny you pay.. and then some.

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low_bass_makker · 18th August 2008, 10:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by rev_hard

I came across a few pics of a SWWS on yarisworld dot com.

This IMO does NOT look like a JUGGAR! I'm sure Gunbir and JB can have this kind of install done for you Naman.

Arre bahi I was not referring to this type of install it is a sealed box installed in a spare tyre space. But I was referring to this one..

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/sound-...heel-well.html

The one you mentioned is a very good type.

naman · 18th August 2008, 11:07

Guys, thanks for the replys.

Just to clear up, my budget is 30 K. The prices I mentioned took the total to 37 K and hence wanted to cut down on somethings so that its back to 30K. Now that is achieved.

@gunbir : Lets fix up a time to meet up ( at Driven, if it suits you ). I'm generally free on weekends ( both Sat and Sun ). Weekdays are really hectic as my office is in gurgaon and home in faridabad. Also, now that you know that the sub and components are (most likely) going to be BULL, how would you rate that for the SWWS in conjunction with the mid bass of the compos. Let me know.

Also whats the difference between infinite baffle and sealed plexi.

Now with further recommendation from rev_hard amp is finalized. So its a Kenwood. Head unit is kenwood 6539. Want more than very basic HU.

Naman.

navin · 18th August 2008, 13:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by naman

Kenwood amp is grey and the reviews are good. Reviews for the Bull speakers are also positive. Definitely will audition them before the install.
How about getting a contoured custom enclosed box in such a shape that it fits one side properly.

1. please review atleast 3 brands it will help you make an informed decision.
2. the contoured box can be best made using FRP for all panels/sides mated to a MDF baffle.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DerAlte

Doesn't Bull have model numbers? Everyone seems to be referring to the generic sizes!

It might be becuase Bull is a new brand and people refering to them are still not familiar with the model numbers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rev_hard

This IMO does NOT look like a JUGGAR!

Sure that ain't JUGGAR but there is no spare wheel either.

rev_hard · 18th August 2008, 13:49

tire sealants are available dime-a-dozen these days, and guess what, some of them do indeed work, very well at that.

who needs a spare wheel anyways.

naman · 18th August 2008, 15:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by rev_hard

tire sealants are available dime-a-dozen these days, and guess what, some of them do indeed work, very well at that.

who needs a spare wheel anyways.

Till now was under the impression that I'll not have to remove the stepney. Will it not be too risky to do our great highways without a stepney. I agree, that in city it doesn't really matter.

nishantgandhi · 18th August 2008, 15:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by rev_hard

tire sealants are available dime-a-dozen these days, and guess what, some of them do indeed work, very well at that.

who needs a spare wheel anyways.

Maybe yes for people running tubeless tires. But cars with tubed tires would almost always need to carry a spare wheel

Quote:

Originally Posted by naman

Till now was under the impression that I'll not have to remove the stepney. Will it not be too risky to do our great highways without a stepney. I agree, that in city it doesn't really matter.

navin · 18th August 2008, 15:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by rev_hard

who needs a spare wheel anyways.

We had a tyre puncture on the way to Igatpuri (near Nashik) last weekend. Thank God we had a spare! :-)

DerAlte · 18th August 2008, 15:57

IIRC, Gunbir's SWWS (seek and ye shall find ...) had retained the stepney, and yet had the sub mounted. Empirically, it may feel that the sound would be boomy, but IMHO if it is designed well, especially with a FG enclosure, there is no reason why it cannot be made punchy with a sub selected for the purpose.

Otherwise, one can always strap the spare wheel by the side of the boot - two birds with one stone!

ketchup · 20th August 2008, 18:02

Hello,

I have a query regarding alternator noise:

I was using a Sony Amp (554zr) with my Pio HU. I changed this amp to a JBL GT5 604. I had severe alternator noise: a "kirrrr" sound from the speakers which goes to a high pitch with accelleration.

I then set the input levels on the Amp near to the min mark (6v), this has eliminated the alternator noise for the front speakers, but there's still some noise from the rears. The downside is that I have to play the volume at close to max on the HU.

I came across this solution on TBHP.

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This is the back of a HU. My question is: Would it work if I did this on the Amp instead of on the HU? And is it safe ie, wiring 2 or 4 shields together?

Thanks, Giri

greenhorn · 21st August 2008, 00:08

what are the RCA cable's you're using now ? are you sure they have enough shielding ?

Sam Kapasi · 21st August 2008, 00:25

Change your RCA cable and run it away from the power line. This should mostly solve your problem.

noidaboy · 21st August 2008, 00:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by DerAlte

Doesn't Bull have model numbers? Everyone seems to be referring to the generic sizes!

Bull sub with enclosure : ESW-12

Bull components : CS-650.75

@ LBM esw12 has 400peak power

18th August 2008, 02:22	#8553
rev_hard BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 361 Thanked: Once	I came across a few pics of a SWWS on yarisworld dot com. This IMO does NOT look like a JUGGAR! I'm sure Gunbir and JB can have this kind of install done for you Naman. With 37k, I'd have bought better components by rainbow or ID and a 10'' sub installed as a SWWS. Kenwood amp is being used by a friend of mine in an SX4 paired to hertz energy comps and 2 ways. It is a very reliable amp and performs well worth every penny you pay.. and then some.
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18th August 2008, 11:07	#8555
naman BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 132 Thanked: 11 Times	Guys, thanks for the replys. Just to clear up, my budget is 30 K. The prices I mentioned took the total to 37 K and hence wanted to cut down on somethings so that its back to 30K. Now that is achieved. @gunbir : Lets fix up a time to meet up ( at Driven, if it suits you ). I'm generally free on weekends ( both Sat and Sun ). Weekdays are really hectic as my office is in gurgaon and home in faridabad. Also, now that you know that the sub and components are (most likely) going to be BULL, how would you rate that for the SWWS in conjunction with the mid bass of the compos. Let me know. Also whats the difference between infinite baffle and sealed plexi. Now with further recommendation from rev_hard amp is finalized. So its a Kenwood. Head unit is kenwood 6539. Want more than very basic HU. Naman. Last edited by naman : 18th August 2008 at 11:15.
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18th August 2008, 13:49	#8557
rev_hard BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 361 Thanked: Once	tire sealants are available dime-a-dozen these days, and guess what, some of them do indeed work, very well at that. who needs a spare wheel anyways.
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18th August 2008, 15:57	#8561
DerAlte Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 8,069 Thanked: 2,919 Times	IIRC, Gunbir's SWWS (seek and ye shall find ...) had retained the stepney, and yet had the sub mounted. Empirically, it may feel that the sound would be boomy, but IMHO if it is designed well, especially with a FG enclosure, there is no reason why it cannot be made punchy with a sub selected for the purpose. Otherwise, one can always strap the spare wheel by the side of the boot - two birds with one stone!
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20th August 2008, 18:02	#8562
ketchup BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 48 Thanked: 0 Times	Alternator noise Hello, I have a query regarding alternator noise: I was using a Sony Amp (554zr) with my Pio HU. I changed this amp to a JBL GT5 604. I had severe alternator noise: a "kirrrr" sound from the speakers which goes to a high pitch with accelleration. I then set the input levels on the Amp near to the min mark (6v), this has eliminated the alternator noise for the front speakers, but there's still some noise from the rears. The downside is that I have to play the volume at close to max on the HU. I came across this solution on TBHP. This is the back of a HU. My question is: Would it work if I did this on the Amp instead of on the HU? And is it safe ie, wiring 2 or 4 shields together? Thanks, Giri
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21st August 2008, 00:08	#8563
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,752 Thanked: 4,431 Times View My Garage	what are the RCA cable's you're using now ? are you sure they have enough shielding ?
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21st August 2008, 00:25	#8564
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (but wat Posts: 6,997 Thanked: 2,395 Times View My Garage	Change your RCA cable and run it away from the power line. This should mostly solve your problem.
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