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Old 14th September 2008, 13:14   #8731
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just curious, why are you looking only at blaupunkt stuff? there are better deals to be had , and while they are good all round speakers, you can get stuff that suits your taste in music more. What sort of music do you listen to ?
Hi,

I understand from the dealer that Blaupunkt and Pioneer are the approved brands from Fiat/Tata meaning that the installation of the system would not need to involve splicing and taping of wires etc. Besides that, I've come to hear Blaupunkt in a couple of friends' cars and they sound brilliant. The third reason is that I've spent too much time talking with dealers and getting a deal on them and I dont want to go through all that again.

(1) I already have bought a Blaupunkt London MP37 HU
(2) I have considered a lot of options for front components and finally settled on the Blaupunkt GTc 542 as the best combination of fit, sound quality and price.
(3) For the rear, I want to fit speakers in the stock location without any modifications whatsoever. I am also not keen on spending too much on the tiny rear speakers. Again the GTx 402 from Blaupunkt seems to fit my budget perfectly. I am open to options on these though I do not intend to increase my budget allocation here.
(4) I need a subwoofer and a 2-channel amp to power it. I am open to a JBL amp + JBL subwoofer right now. Not picky but the main criterion is price again.ii

So I just need a suggestion from the Gurus about what I can buy in points (3) and (4) above. I need something that is cheap but decent enough. I do not listen to very high volume music but i enjoy bass that adds to the music but does not overpower it. I therefore do not need a very high end amp+sw combination.

If it is of any consequence, I would like to add that I listen to mostly classic rock and usually the non heavy-metal stuff. The kind of bass that I need is not mainly the thump of beats as in hip-hop but more of strong and prominent bass-lines characterised by my two favourite bands - Queen and The Police. I also love the typical beats from the 'real' leather drums that we had in 70s and 80s rock. 'Message in a Bottle' and 'Radio Ga Ga' might be my test tracks to see how the subwoofer handles the stuff.

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Monoblock suggestion needed

Right! So I did the search and did go through the results that came up but could find no post specific to my requirements. Plus going through 8400 posts is rather tedious. Maybe we could consider breaking up this thread into categories based on HU, amps, speakers (comps, coaxials, etc.), subs., monoblocks, wiring, everything else. It would provide a more organized reference point for all concerned?

My question is this: I need a recommendation for a monoblock. I am currently running an 8" Polk sealed sub and will most likely upgrade that to a 10" sealed sub. I was looking at the JBL GT300.1 which is priced around 8k and will be able to handle the 10" sub as well. I drive a Swift D and the ICE specs are listed in my garage. The thing is that I need suggestions ASAP as the monoblock will be a gift. I think the budget is good up to 10k, excluding wiring and installation of course.
Thanks guys!
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Maybe we could consider breaking up this thread

My question is this: I need a recommendation for a monoblock. I was looking at the JBL GT300.1 which is priced around 8k and will be able to handle the 10" sub as well.
1. we did discuss breaking up this thread (actually Sam and I did) when the thread was 1/3rd its current size but decided that it much more fun to let it ride. It is our generic cure all thread.

2. the 300.1 will git your bill well. Pio also make a Class D amp for about 10K but the JBL comes with a warranty.
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Navin, many thanks for your reply. Lots of reading later, I am leaning towards the GTO3501 even though it does come in at a higher price point. The sub level controller is a definite plus. And the power handling is improved. Have you any experience with it? Then it also occured to me that at a price point of about 12-14k I could also consider a Lightning Audio mono provided it came with a controller. Would you change your recommendations in light of an enhanced budget?

And so the inevitable comes to pass...the budget went out of the window!!
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Have you any experience with it? ..I could also consider a Lightning Audio mono provided it came with a controller. Would you change your recommendations in light of an enhanced budget?
I have not heard a CS series JBL amp. I have heard the GTO 75.4 and my mom uses a GTO 755.6.

I have not heard any Lightining Audio product.

It is darn near impossible for someone like me (non-professional, and not really active in audio) to possibly listen to even 0.1% of the brands out there. This is where the Gurus like Gunbir, Bhagwan, B&T, Sam, LBM, BlueRaven, etc.. come in. Their knowledge is much more current and more constantly updated.
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I just came across this really nice frequency chart on the 'net: Interactive Frequency Chart - Independent Recording Network
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Hi,

I understand from the dealer that Blaupunkt and Pioneer are the approved brands from Fiat/Tata meaning that the installation of the system would not need to involve splicing and taping of wires etc.
Nothing as such. Just get the proper wiring harness and you're good to go. what the dealer sells at MRP, he gets a huge margin.A lot of dealers claim so to push their own stuff Tata does sell tata co branded blaupunkt stuff, but that doesnt mean that anything else is incompatible. mine is an alpine HU and Hertz comps + rear coax. used the proper wiring harness and not a single wire needed to be cut, If you've decided/bought the stuff , then nothing much I can do myself to help you, since I myself dont have a big idea about either amps or subs
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Nothing as such. Just get the proper wiring harness and you're good to go. what the dealer sells at MRP, he gets a huge margin.A lot of dealers claim so to push their own stuff Tata does sell tata co branded blaupunkt stuff, but that doesnt mean that anything else is incompatible. mine is an alpine HU and Hertz comps + rear coax. used the proper wiring harness and not a single wire needed to be cut, If you've decided/bought the stuff , then nothing much I can do myself to help you, since I myself dont have a big idea about either amps or subs
I have bought the Blaupunkt London HU already. Havent bought anything else. Do you have a decidedly better front component and rear 4-inch coaxials set in mind for around the same price? I dont want to spend a lot more than what my intended setup costs.

Can someone else please suggest a good amp + s/w combination within my constraints?

-Ganesh
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Ganesh, I don't know your "constraints", but if its budgetary: I got a jbl GTO 1264 for Rs 2700, and a JBL 3501 amp for Rs 8500 a month ago. Both without B&W. I've heard only good things about these, I've not yet installed them. I believe there's a 2nd hand pio mono for sale if you want I'll pm you the contact.
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how much do monoblocks cost? and why are they sooo expensive?
even the sony amps cost like 8k

and does the brand really matter? wht if i got a sony mono amp really cheap? how much would it be different from other better amps?

after all, all its gotta do os amplify 1 channel of lows (iam i right gurus?)
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how much do monoblocks cost? and why are they sooo expensive?
even the sony amps cost like 8k
1. smaller production lots
2. higher current dumping capability
3. small target audience that's willing to pay the premium.
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How much damping is required for the front two doors of the swift (bare minimum) ? I have been told about 2.5 m. Is that correct ?

How much will the thing cost me ?
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1. smaller production lots
2. higher current dumping capability
3. small target audience that's willing to pay the premium.
hmm.. means more research before a purchase.

how are kicker amp? do they have good monos? cost?
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How much damping is required for the front two doors of the swift (bare minimum) ? I have been told about 2.5 m. Is that correct ?

How much will the thing cost me ?
I bought 20 SQ feet for the bare minimum install for my swift front door (10 sq ft for each door). I used Noisekill and it cost me INR 3000 (Rs. 150 / sq feet). Here are two pics to give you the idea of the bare minimum install I have done. The only patch left is a 5 cm square one which I kept to show the stuff to some of my friends.

Inside outer door shell
Car Audio Advice from the Audio Gurus: Use "Search thread" before posting a new Q!-03dfrnk1.jpg

On inner door shell
Car Audio Advice from the Audio Gurus: Use "Search thread" before posting a new Q!-03dfrnk2.jpg

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what a thread guys. its huge. im not good with car audio, so i need a little bit of help. i have a baleno altura, i luv the car btw, but the system is still stock.
there are two things i need t no.
1- which company are the stock speakers ?
2- i plan a change, i need a cd/tape player, both because dad still listens to tapes, and i want a set of new speakers. only 4 speakers. dont need an amp or subwoofer unless necessary. budget is low, maximum 15,000.
im also wondering whether id be able to have large speakers at the rear, due to holders being small. is there anything i can do? please help
(does any1 want to buy an old baleno altura?)
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