Query on JBL

k_ajay · 20th August 2005, 11:31

Hi Aseem.... Are you doubly sure that the Alpine 9830 costs just 15k in B'lore? Is this with Bill and Warranty? Should this be true, its too good to believe and

ing to note the price difference...

A lil help. Could you also find out the price of the 9831 and 9827 in B'lore please? I don't know how u have b'lore prices since I see you live in Delhi, but since you have the 9830 price, i'm hoping it wouldn't be hard for you to find the price of the 9831...

Thanks much pal!

AK

Vivekphadnis · 20th August 2005, 12:53

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So in short, unlike coaxial speakers that send the same frequency to the woofer and the tweeter (which is mounted on the woofer itself)... the components use crossovers to filter the frequencies going into the tweeter and the woofer.

Not correct Aseem. Coaxials will have a capacitor stuck somewhere to the magnet or the basket. If you constantly feed low frequencies to tweeters, they will burn up. Check any coaxial speaker you want.

Revtech, please do yourself a favour and don't buy Sony speakers. That is if you have not bought them already. Take it from me, they are bad.

Sam Kapasi · 20th August 2005, 14:39

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Originally Posted by Vivekphadnis

And for heaven's sake don't buy the Sony speakers.

*nodding very strongly* I agree with Vivek, dont buy the Sony speakers. They're really sad sounding

revtech · 20th August 2005, 14:49

but a friend of mine said they sound descent.....

why do you say they arent good

Rev

Vivekphadnis · 20th August 2005, 23:51

They might sound okay but not good. Listen keenly with Sony and some other brand like JBL/Blau/Alpine. The latter brands will sound better because they use better materials and there is better construction. The emphasis is sound here. Please please believe me.

aseem · 21st August 2005, 12:18

I am currently in Bangalore and on Sam's advise checked out the JBL showroom here in Bangi. My primary purpose of the visit was to check out the Chevy music system whose pics Sam had earlier posted. The car sounded awesome and I could feel the bass travel through the seats. My only complaint was it was a tad too bright, but that is true for all JBL components (Navin mentioned Alpine is lil better). However I still strongly recommend JBL components as not all ppl agree with my observation and on the contrary love the loudness of the JBL's. The car had an Alpine HU, and thats what made me ask the guy the rate. He told me he can give me 9833 for 18k (if I remember correctly)... on this I stated what about 9830, and the answer was 15k. I was shocked as much as you are as being from Delhi I also got qoutes of 20k. Whether its with bill or without, I didnt ask and dont care either as the Sony I bought for 14k is also without bill, so I could have bought 9830 instead.... :(
I have learnt a lot about music the hard way through this forum and personal experiences... but this is the learning cost that I am paying. I would invite you all to listen to the music of my car once the project is complete... going by the lack of funds off late from the investors (my dad, and my brother, i am broke myself) the project has delayed. I have a meeting next month with the VC's (venture capatalists) when I come back to Delhi to discuss the future budget. The problem in India is that everything becomes a five year plan

k_ajay · 21st August 2005, 13:50

aseem. I wish you da best for your 5 year plan.... and Aseem, can you give me the address or details of this JBL showroom in Bang? If hes giving the Alpine 9833 for 18k, i damn well might get that instead of the 9827.... or even the 9830 or 9831.... wow

Even if hes going to charge 2k-4k xtra for the bill, i'm absolutely ok with it. Do let me know if you have any details that I can make use of...

Thanks dude

AK

navin · 22nd August 2005, 19:42

I'd like to clear up one misconception: JBL is not better than Alpine; just brighter - and the reverese is also true. Any system is a sum of parts. The part with the MOST influence is the ENVIROMENT the importance of the other 3 parts (HU, AMP, SPEAKER) depends on whom you are talking to.

redrage · 23rd August 2005, 18:00

@evry1- so guys, how much would a decent set of speakers,amp,sub(all jbl) come upto.....? my budget is around 20-25k...... pls be free to advise me on other combinations as well...

navin · 23rd August 2005, 18:58

SAM! This one is ALL YOURS! :-)

k_ajay · 24th August 2005, 00:03

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Originally Posted by aseem

I am currently in Bangalore and on Sam's advise checked out the JBL showroom here in Bangi. My primary purpose of the visit was to check out the Chevy music system whose pics Sam had earlier posted. The car sounded awesome and I could feel the bass travel through the seats. My only complaint was it was a tad too bright, but that is true for all JBL components (Navin mentioned Alpine is lil better). However I still strongly recommend JBL components as not all ppl agree with my observation and on the contrary love the loudness of the JBL's. The car had an Alpine HU, and thats what made me ask the guy the rate. He told me he can give me 9833 for 18k (if I remember correctly)... on this I stated what about 9830, and the answer was 15k. I was shocked as much as you are as being from Delhi I also got qoutes of 20k. Whether its with bill or without, I didnt ask and dont care either as the Sony I bought for 14k is also without bill, so I could have bought 9830 instead.... :(
I have learnt a lot about music the hard way through this forum and personal experiences... but this is the learning cost that I am paying. I would invite you all to listen to the music of my car once the project is complete... going by the lack of funds off late from the investors (my dad, and my brother, i am broke myself) the project has delayed. I have a meeting next month with the VC's (venture capatalists) when I come back to Delhi to discuss the future budget. The problem in India is that everything becomes a five year plan

Hey Aseeeeeeem..... dude, thanks a lot for your timely referal. I called the JBL showroom manager at B'lore and he provided the Alpine HU prices and they are SSOOOOO much cheaper in B'lore, than in Chennai, and this is way tooooo ing....

Well, for everyone's benefit, here are 2 higher end Alpine HU prices:

Alpine cda 9830 - 15k [with bill & warranty]
Alpine cda 9833 - 19k [with bill & warranty]

Chennai prices:

Alpine cda 9830 - 23,980/- [with bill & warranty]
Alpine cda 9833 - 28,900/- [with bill & warranty]

Now i'm sure everyone reading this bit would be shocked

I can't stop smiling enough for the b'lore prices, thanks to you Aseeem. I might have a friend of mine get it for me this week, else, better, I might juz come down for a couple of hours and get it myself this weekend.... maybe...

Cheers
AK

navin · 24th August 2005, 14:43

that is a huge difference. I think I paid rs. 20K for my 9833 that too from Bharat in Worli and they are supposed to be expensive so it is the Chennai prices that seem to out of line.

Sam Kapasi · 24th August 2005, 14:50

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Originally Posted by redrage

@evry1- so guys, how much would a decent set of speakers,amp,sub(all jbl) come upto.....? my budget is around 20-25k...... pls be free to advise me on other combinations as well...

OK so here's a combo- all JBL for 25k

CS50.4 amp - Rs 9500
GTO963e - Rs 4750 Rear
GTO426e - Rs 2500 front
CS1200T - Rs6500 sub tube
Dinner with Wine and girlfriend - Rs 1750 (I recommend Satori at this budget)

Total25k

navin · 24th August 2005, 14:58

What about Infinity Sam? wont that make "nicer" sounds at this price?

Sam Kapasi · 24th August 2005, 15:11

Well, yes. But Navin, it depends. If your idea of nice sound is Metallica or Eminem, then NO.

I only recommend Infinity to people that like Dave Matthews.

Also, at 25k, he woont be able to buy 4 infinity speakers and a sub and an amp.

20th August 2005, 11:31	#16
k_ajay Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,379 Thanked: 1,138 Times View My Garage	Hi Aseem.... Are you doubly sure that the Alpine 9830 costs just 15k in B'lore? Is this with Bill and Warranty? Should this be true, its too good to believe and ing to note the price difference... A lil help. Could you also find out the price of the 9831 and 9827 in B'lore please? I don't know how u have b'lore prices since I see you live in Delhi, but since you have the 9830 price, i'm hoping it wouldn't be hard for you to find the price of the 9831... Thanks much pal! AK
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20th August 2005, 14:49	#19
revtech Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,992 Thanked: 39 Times View My Garage	but a friend of mine said they sound descent..... why do you say they arent good Rev
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20th August 2005, 23:51	#20
Vivekphadnis BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 690 Thanked: 2 Times	They might sound okay but not good. Listen keenly with Sony and some other brand like JBL/Blau/Alpine. The latter brands will sound better because they use better materials and there is better construction. The emphasis is sound here. Please please believe me.
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21st August 2005, 12:18	#21
aseem Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Delhi Posts: 1,730 Thanked: 442 Times	I am currently in Bangalore and on Sam's advise checked out the JBL showroom here in Bangi. My primary purpose of the visit was to check out the Chevy music system whose pics Sam had earlier posted. The car sounded awesome and I could feel the bass travel through the seats. My only complaint was it was a tad too bright, but that is true for all JBL components (Navin mentioned Alpine is lil better). However I still strongly recommend JBL components as not all ppl agree with my observation and on the contrary love the loudness of the JBL's. The car had an Alpine HU, and thats what made me ask the guy the rate. He told me he can give me 9833 for 18k (if I remember correctly)... on this I stated what about 9830, and the answer was 15k. I was shocked as much as you are as being from Delhi I also got qoutes of 20k. Whether its with bill or without, I didnt ask and dont care either as the Sony I bought for 14k is also without bill, so I could have bought 9830 instead.... :( I have learnt a lot about music the hard way through this forum and personal experiences... but this is the learning cost that I am paying. I would invite you all to listen to the music of my car once the project is complete... going by the lack of funds off late from the investors (my dad, and my brother, i am broke myself) the project has delayed. I have a meeting next month with the VC's (venture capatalists) when I come back to Delhi to discuss the future budget. The problem in India is that everything becomes a five year plan
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21st August 2005, 13:50	#22
k_ajay Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,379 Thanked: 1,138 Times View My Garage	aseem. I wish you da best for your 5 year plan.... and Aseem, can you give me the address or details of this JBL showroom in Bang? If hes giving the Alpine 9833 for 18k, i damn well might get that instead of the 9827.... or even the 9830 or 9831.... wow Even if hes going to charge 2k-4k xtra for the bill, i'm absolutely ok with it. Do let me know if you have any details that I can make use of... Thanks dude AK
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22nd August 2005, 19:42	#23
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,321 Thanked: 9,500 Times	I'd like to clear up one misconception: JBL is not better than Alpine; just brighter - and the reverese is also true. Any system is a sum of parts. The part with the MOST influence is the ENVIROMENT the importance of the other 3 parts (HU, AMP, SPEAKER) depends on whom you are talking to.
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23rd August 2005, 18:00	#24
redrage BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 557 Thanked: 106 Times	@evry1- so guys, how much would a decent set of speakers,amp,sub(all jbl) come upto.....? my budget is around 20-25k...... pls be free to advise me on other combinations as well...
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23rd August 2005, 18:58	#25
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,321 Thanked: 9,500 Times	SAM! This one is ALL YOURS! :-)
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24th August 2005, 14:43	#27
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,321 Thanked: 9,500 Times	that is a huge difference. I think I paid rs. 20K for my 9833 that too from Bharat in Worli and they are supposed to be expensive so it is the Chennai prices that seem to out of line.
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24th August 2005, 14:58	#29
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,321 Thanked: 9,500 Times	What about Infinity Sam? wont that make "nicer" sounds at this price?
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24th August 2005, 15:11	#30
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (but wat Posts: 7,000 Thanked: 2,451 Times View My Garage	Well, yes. But Navin, it depends. If your idea of nice sound is Metallica or Eminem, then NO. I only recommend Infinity to people that like Dave Matthews. Also, at 25k, he woont be able to buy 4 infinity speakers and a sub and an amp.
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