advice on upgrading my sony system for my zen??

mclaren1885 · 19th September 2005, 01:51

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Originally Posted by gunbir

Have you tried opening the door panels to see whats underneath. As in whats the cutout in the actual door. Post pics if you can. That'll be helpful. I'm sure 130mm / 5.25" will not be an issue. You could just mount them and put your door panels back on. Again, pics will be great

the company guy said u can plonk in only 4'' ones in there..even 4 the 5.25'' ones il have to make a cut..will post the pics 2moro anyway with the entire pad removed..maybe will be of better help...

zzzehar · 19th September 2005, 02:52

Just a small query here, McLaren
Did you get your 5510 with B&W? How much ? If not, still How much?
Sony is offering 2 year warranty on their car audio products, check their website

mclaren1885 · 19th September 2005, 03:21

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Originally Posted by zzzehar

Just a small query here, McLaren
Did you get your 5510 with B&W? How much ? If not, still How much?
Sony is offering 2 year warranty on their car audio products, check their website

all the prices are without B&W..know the dealer very well so will get it repaired at his cost within the warranty period..ya sony is offering 2 yrs warranty thats provided u got a warranty card number..check my earlier posts 4 the break up costs of the entire setup..

navin · 19th September 2005, 09:34

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Originally Posted by mclaren1885

the company guy said u can plonk in only 4'' ones in there..even 4 the 5.25'' ones il have to make a cut..will post the pics 2moro anyway with the entire pad removed..maybe will be of better help...

I would take apart teh door panel and see if a 5.25" can fit from the rear. if so you can do a rear mount with 5.25" in the front. I would be very surprised if it did not fit. I had put 5.25" fronts in my zen iin 1995. ofcoruse teh zen was different then but i would be surprised if they changed it so much.

Autophile · 19th September 2005, 11:29

mclaren,

You can fit 5.25" in the front door of zen without cutting the grille. You have to use MDF ring to mount the speaker to avoid the speaker magnet touching the window glass.

For 6.5" i will have to see the pictures of the door panel.

mclaren1885 · 19th September 2005, 13:05

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Originally Posted by Autophile

mclaren,

You can fit 5.25" in the front door of zen without cutting the grille. You have to use MDF ring to mount the speaker to avoid the speaker magnet touching the window glass.

For 6.5" i will have to see the pictures of the door panel.

hey autophile had a very long discussion with gunbir yesterday and ya the best way seems to be to use an mdf ring for the 5.25'' compos..but as gunbir suggeted the 6.5'' compos to be way better im prepared to do any kind of mods to the doors to accomodate them..and as gunbir and u suggeted to post the pics of the door panel here they are:

well these pics are from a zen door that was lying at my garage..the same design is with my door too..even my mechanics suggested that the window glass operation wont be possible if 6.5'' compos are fitted without any mods to the door..ur views on this..

mclaren1885 · 19th September 2005, 13:13

gunbir as u suggested i have taken the measurements of the pods as u asked me to take them..here is the pic and its dimension..the vertical line measures 165mm and the horizontal line is 140mm..hope that helps...

SoundManiac · 19th September 2005, 14:22

Man! some help those pics must be!!

Thats so nice of you to be giving such tremendous help.
I'm surely impressed, and am sure so will McLaren be.

Btw, what are plans of bringing Hertz to hyderabad?

navin · 19th September 2005, 14:50

True, SK, JB and SQ are really going all out to help. mcLaren I think the 5" would be your safe option. unless ofcoruse you get a 6" that is just as shallow. besides the door is a small box, a lossy but small box nonetheless, and hence just maybe a 5" would be a nicer fit (physically and acoustically). if it only experimenting with MDF rings to try out the 6" I would try out both.

Autophile · 19th September 2005, 17:41

Mc Laren,

Stick to 5.25" its a better option. USe good quality speakers, components preferably and you will get pretty good sound.

In older zen it was still easy to fir bigger speaker because the grille could be removed and you can mount the speaker over the doorpanel with the MDF ring.

mclaren1885 · 19th September 2005, 19:16

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Originally Posted by Autophile

Mc Laren,

Stick to 5.25" its a better option. USe good quality speakers, components preferably and you will get pretty good sound.

In older zen it was still easy to fir bigger speaker because the grille could be removed and you can mount the speaker over the doorpanel with the MDF ring.

ya agreed the older zen was easier to fit bigger speakers..but is there no way i can fit 6.5'' components at the front on this one even on using the mdf rings..u said fitting 5.25'' is a better option but that also means 6.5'' are possible but difficult na..well y not try it out..guys need ur inputs badly..im badly stuck whether 5.25'' or 6.5''(play safe or take a risk)..

iceman91 · 19th September 2005, 20:10

6.5" can be fit..they have been done in a friends car..needs a bigger ring but also involves the door pad to be cut a little bit...call the guy whose number i gave you..might be able to see it on one of his zens then you can decide

Autophile · 19th September 2005, 20:35

You can install 6.5" but it need a lot of modifications to door area...bigger cut out in the door and modify the door panel. Plus most likely there will be a problem in fitting the door panel because 6.5" midbass installed with MDF ring will obstruct.

mclaren1885 · 19th September 2005, 22:26

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Originally Posted by iceman91

6.5" can be fit..they have been done in a friends car..needs a bigger ring but also involves the door pad to be cut a little bit...call the guy whose number i gave you..might be able to see it on one of his zens then you can decide

thanks iceman will check with him in a day or two and see hows he done it..been a bit busy of lately so couldnt get in touch with him..

navin · 19th September 2005, 23:19

mclaren, a speaker needs room to breathe. bigger is not always better. been there done that even in the old zen the 5" sounded better (both were Vifa).

19th September 2005, 02:52	#77
zzzehar BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gurugram Posts: 278 Thanked: 74 Times	Just a small query here, McLaren Did you get your 5510 with B&W? How much ? If not, still How much? Sony is offering 2 year warranty on their car audio products, check their website
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19th September 2005, 11:29	#80
Autophile BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 931 Thanked: 4 Times	mclaren, You can fit 5.25" in the front door of zen without cutting the grille. You have to use MDF ring to mount the speaker to avoid the speaker magnet touching the window glass. For 6.5" i will have to see the pictures of the door panel.
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mclaren1885 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bangalore (the city of modded cars) !! Posts: 4,818 Thanked: 46 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (10)	gunbir as u suggested i have taken the measurements of the pods as u asked me to take them..here is the pic and its dimension..the vertical line measures 165mm and the horizontal line is 140mm..hope that helps...
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19th September 2005, 14:22	#83
SoundManiac BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 171 Thanked: 80 Times	Man! some help those pics must be!! Thats so nice of you to be giving such tremendous help. I'm surely impressed, and am sure so will McLaren be. Btw, what are plans of bringing Hertz to hyderabad?
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19th September 2005, 14:50	#84
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,421 Thanked: 9,996 Times	True, SK, JB and SQ are really going all out to help. mcLaren I think the 5" would be your safe option. unless ofcoruse you get a 6" that is just as shallow. besides the door is a small box, a lossy but small box nonetheless, and hence just maybe a 5" would be a nicer fit (physically and acoustically). if it only experimenting with MDF rings to try out the 6" I would try out both.
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19th September 2005, 17:41	#85
Autophile BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 931 Thanked: 4 Times	Mc Laren, Stick to 5.25" its a better option. USe good quality speakers, components preferably and you will get pretty good sound. In older zen it was still easy to fir bigger speaker because the grille could be removed and you can mount the speaker over the doorpanel with the MDF ring.
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19th September 2005, 20:10	#87
iceman91 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: melbourne/banga Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 36 Times View My Garage	6.5" can be fit..they have been done in a friends car..needs a bigger ring but also involves the door pad to be cut a little bit...call the guy whose number i gave you..might be able to see it on one of his zens then you can decide
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19th September 2005, 20:35	#88
Autophile BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 931 Thanked: 4 Times	You can install 6.5" but it need a lot of modifications to door area...bigger cut out in the door and modify the door panel. Plus most likely there will be a problem in fitting the door panel because 6.5" midbass installed with MDF ring will obstruct.
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19th September 2005, 23:19	#90
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,421 Thanked: 9,996 Times	mclaren, a speaker needs room to breathe. bigger is not always better. been there done that even in the old zen the 5" sounded better (both were Vifa).
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