advice on upgrading my sony system for my zen??

navin · 28th September 2005, 09:41

mclaren, I guess is the strobes (depending on their wattage) would be the most power hungry but my expereince is mostly with strobes that are used as part of stage lighting.

Maybe you can turn off the "chirtmeas tree effects" when you want to turn up the music.

Stiffening caps will help primarily with the bass amp (Blau 150W).

mclaren1885 · 28th September 2005, 10:50

ya naveen u guessed it right,the strobes do pull out a lot from the battery as these strobes are as good those used in stage lightning..btw if u ever happened to see a disco on wheels in bangy rest assured its got to be mine

..so just pull over the christmas tree on wheels and maybe we can have a chat..

navin · 28th September 2005, 10:53

Just make sure not to drive near the airport. you'll confuse the pilots.

Autophile · 28th September 2005, 10:54

Add a stiffening cap in parallel to your power circuit. It will help all the amplifiers.

Eg if you are using 1->4 distribution blocks the three outputs are taken by your amplifiers in both positive and ground. Attach cap's +ve and -ve with the fourth output of the both distribution blocks.

navin · 28th September 2005, 11:10

gret idea JB. never thought of that! one more reason to use dist blocks.

mclaren1885 · 28th September 2005, 11:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by navin

Just make sure not to drive near the airport. you'll confuse the pilots.

haha didnt see that one coming!!!!
now now not once has my car gone the airport side,just a coincidence i think..now that uve mentioned il surely keep distance from the airport..dont want the 9/11 episode to happen in bangy..osama is still on the run, guess i wont be that lucky if the govt blames me for the crash

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PS: JB when u coming to bangy man !!!!

Sam Kapasi · 28th September 2005, 12:13

Chal, mein aata hoon. I'll look for Mclaren's Disco '82. and pull him over for a chat.

(Disco'82....Disco'82 Paaneesaaa, ramaramarama)

Navin complete my song....

navin · 28th September 2005, 12:43

it starts with "Paaneesaaa, ramaramarama", repeats "ramaramarama"
then breaks into
"Main hain Disco, Tum Hain Disco, ........Duyniya hain ek Disco".

and actually the chorus goes "Disco'82....Disco'82, na na na", and then after 4 or 8 beats comes "Paaneesaaa, ramaramarama".

the song contains the lyrics "mere sapne" beyond that i did not understand one word. it was a female voice wailing and some "Ma Baker" type male voice.

one english phrase in the song - sone one says "come on" about 3 min in.

so there! I can use google too!

mclaren1885 · 28th September 2005, 13:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by navin

it starts with "Paaneesaaa, ramaramarama", repeats "ramaramarama"
then breaks into
"Main hain Disco, Tum Hain Disco, ........Duyniya hain ek Disco".

and actually the chorus goes "Disco'82....Disco'82, na na na", and then after 4 or 8 beats comes "Paaneesaaa, ramaramarama".

the song contains the lyrics "mere sapne" beyond that i did not understand one word. it was a female voice wailing and some "Ma Baker" type male voice.

one english phrase in the song - sone one says "come on" about 3 min in.

so there! I can use google too!

haha..good going navin...

..
now how about singing the song to us

...

PS: sorry for the extensive use of smilies but the situation demanded it..

Sam Kapasi · 28th September 2005, 13:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by navin

it starts with "Paaneesaaa, ramaramarama", repeats "ramaramarama"
then breaks into
"Main hain Disco, Tum Hain Disco, ........Duyniya hain ek Disco".

and actually the chorus goes "Disco'82....Disco'82, na na na", and then after 4 or 8 beats comes "Paaneesaaa, ramaramarama".

the song contains the lyrics "mere sapne" beyond that i did not understand one word. it was a female voice wailing and some "Ma Baker" type male voice.

one english phrase in the song - sone one says "come on" about 3 min in.

so there! I can use google too!

Google???? You found lyrics to Disco'82 on goooooogle?? Ramaramarama!

navin · 28th September 2005, 14:58

no way mclaren, i know my limitations!
Sam, you can google anything least of all lyrics to a song. what else did you expect me to do?

mclaren1885 · 30th September 2005, 18:08

ok audio gurus..im gettting the following amps from singapore..a friend of mine is picking them up for me..

1. pioneer GM-7100M Mono Power Amplifier..
Specifications:
Peak Music Power- 800 Watts
Number of Channels- 1
Load Impedance Capability- 2~8 Ohm
Continuous Power (4 ohm) - 250W x 1
Continuous Power (2 ohm) - 360W x 1
Frequency Response - 10Hz ~ 240Hz
Total Harmonic Distortion - 0.008%
Signal-to-Noise Ratio- 100dB
Dimensions - 12" x 2-3/8" x 12-3/4"
Features:
Channel # Capability - 1
PWM Regulated MOSFET Power Supply
Screw-Type Speaker Terminals
Balanced Isolator Input Circuit
RCA Inputs 2 Channel
Speaker Level Input 2 Channel
Input Level Control Hi-Volt (200mV ~ 6.5v)
Built-in Crossover Selectable LPF
Bass Level Control 50Hz, 0/6/9/12dB

2. pioneer GM-6100f 4-Channel Power Amplifier..
Specifications
Peak Music Power - 600 Watts
Number of Channels - 4
Load Impedance Capability - 2~8 Ohm (Stereo), 4~8 Ohm (Bridged)
Continuous Power (4 ohm) - 60W x 4
Continuous Power (2 ohm) - 75W x 4
Continuous Power Bridged - (4 ohm) 150W x 2
Frequency Response - 10Hz ~ 50kHz
Total Harmonic Distortion - 0.008%
Signal-to-Noise Ratio - 100dB
Dimensions - 12" x 2-3/8" x 9-3/8"
Features:
Bridgeable
Channel # Capability - 2/3/4
PWM Regulated MOSFET Power Supply
Screw-Type Speaker Terminals
Balanced Isolator Input Circuit
RCA Inputs 4 Channel
RCA Outputs (Pass Thru)
Speaker Level Input 4 Channel
Input Level Control Hi-Volt (200mV ~ 6.5v)
Built-in Crossover LPF/HPF (Front/Rear Independent)

so whats ur view on these amps..are they good enough..well both will be costing me around 15k with B&W..

navin · 30th September 2005, 19:06

they are both good amps and they'd be fantastic if sued to drive 4 component speakers and 1 or 2 12"/15" woofers.

mclaren1885 · 30th September 2005, 19:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by navin

they are both good amps and they'd be fantastic if sued to drive 4 component speakers and 1 or 2 12"/15" woofers.

hhmm..now now..navin u giving me ideas..
so u suggest to go for two pairs of components..one pair on the front doors and the other on the rear mdf tray..
and the only reason i decided to go for a 10'' sub and not a 12'' is purely the space factor in zen..the rear mdf tray will be so low once fitted that it might virtually touch the sub enclosure(the enclosure of a 12'' ought to be bigger than the 10'' right)..ur views..

viper · 30th September 2005, 20:03

Hey Navin,

Considering he's calling for the amps from Singapore wouldnt you recommend some other brands which are better then Pioneer. Plenty of them available, Alpine, Earthquake, Rockford , Soundstream, Orion etc.

Viper

28th September 2005, 09:41	#166
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,418 Thanked: 9,993 Times	mclaren, I guess is the strobes (depending on their wattage) would be the most power hungry but my expereince is mostly with strobes that are used as part of stage lighting. Maybe you can turn off the "chirtmeas tree effects" when you want to turn up the music. Stiffening caps will help primarily with the bass amp (Blau 150W).
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28th September 2005, 10:50	#167
mclaren1885 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bangalore (the city of modded cars) !! Posts: 4,818 Thanked: 46 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (10)	ya naveen u guessed it right,the strobes do pull out a lot from the battery as these strobes are as good those used in stage lightning..btw if u ever happened to see a disco on wheels in bangy rest assured its got to be mine ..so just pull over the christmas tree on wheels and maybe we can have a chat..
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28th September 2005, 10:53	#168
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,418 Thanked: 9,993 Times	Just make sure not to drive near the airport. you'll confuse the pilots.
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28th September 2005, 10:54	#169
Autophile BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 931 Thanked: 4 Times	Add a stiffening cap in parallel to your power circuit. It will help all the amplifiers. Eg if you are using 1->4 distribution blocks the three outputs are taken by your amplifiers in both positive and ground. Attach cap's +ve and -ve with the fourth output of the both distribution blocks.
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28th September 2005, 11:10	#170
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,418 Thanked: 9,993 Times	gret idea JB. never thought of that! one more reason to use dist blocks.
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28th September 2005, 12:13	#172
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (but wat Posts: 6,935 Thanked: 2,480 Times View My Garage	Chal, mein aata hoon. I'll look for Mclaren's Disco '82. and pull him over for a chat. (Disco'82....Disco'82 Paaneesaaa, ramaramarama) Navin complete my song....
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28th September 2005, 12:43	#173
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,418 Thanked: 9,993 Times	it starts with "Paaneesaaa, ramaramarama", repeats "ramaramarama" then breaks into "Main hain Disco, Tum Hain Disco, ........Duyniya hain ek Disco". and actually the chorus goes "Disco'82....Disco'82, na na na", and then after 4 or 8 beats comes "Paaneesaaa, ramaramarama". the song contains the lyrics "mere sapne" beyond that i did not understand one word. it was a female voice wailing and some "Ma Baker" type male voice. one english phrase in the song - sone one says "come on" about 3 min in. so there! I can use google too! Last edited by navin : 28th September 2005 at 12:47.
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28th September 2005, 14:58	#176
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,418 Thanked: 9,993 Times	no way mclaren, i know my limitations! Sam, you can google anything least of all lyrics to a song. what else did you expect me to do?
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30th September 2005, 18:08	#177
mclaren1885 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bangalore (the city of modded cars) !! Posts: 4,818 Thanked: 46 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (10)	ok audio gurus..im gettting the following amps from singapore..a friend of mine is picking them up for me.. 1. pioneer GM-7100M Mono Power Amplifier.. Specifications: Peak Music Power- 800 Watts Number of Channels- 1 Load Impedance Capability- 2~8 Ohm Continuous Power (4 ohm) - 250W x 1 Continuous Power (2 ohm) - 360W x 1 Frequency Response - 10Hz ~ 240Hz Total Harmonic Distortion - 0.008% Signal-to-Noise Ratio- 100dB Dimensions - 12" x 2-3/8" x 12-3/4" Features: Channel # Capability - 1 PWM Regulated MOSFET Power Supply Screw-Type Speaker Terminals Balanced Isolator Input Circuit RCA Inputs 2 Channel Speaker Level Input 2 Channel Input Level Control Hi-Volt (200mV ~ 6.5v) Built-in Crossover Selectable LPF Bass Level Control 50Hz, 0/6/9/12dB 2. pioneer GM-6100f 4-Channel Power Amplifier.. Specifications Peak Music Power - 600 Watts Number of Channels - 4 Load Impedance Capability - 2~8 Ohm (Stereo), 4~8 Ohm (Bridged) Continuous Power (4 ohm) - 60W x 4 Continuous Power (2 ohm) - 75W x 4 Continuous Power Bridged - (4 ohm) 150W x 2 Frequency Response - 10Hz ~ 50kHz Total Harmonic Distortion - 0.008% Signal-to-Noise Ratio - 100dB Dimensions - 12" x 2-3/8" x 9-3/8" Features: Bridgeable Channel # Capability - 2/3/4 PWM Regulated MOSFET Power Supply Screw-Type Speaker Terminals Balanced Isolator Input Circuit RCA Inputs 4 Channel RCA Outputs (Pass Thru) Speaker Level Input 4 Channel Input Level Control Hi-Volt (200mV ~ 6.5v) Built-in Crossover LPF/HPF (Front/Rear Independent) so whats ur view on these amps..are they good enough..well both will be costing me around 15k with B&W.. Last edited by mclaren1885 : 30th September 2005 at 18:11.
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30th September 2005, 19:06	#178
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,418 Thanked: 9,993 Times	they are both good amps and they'd be fantastic if sued to drive 4 component speakers and 1 or 2 12"/15" woofers.
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30th September 2005, 20:03	#180
viper BANNED Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,766 Thanked: 20 Times	Hey Navin, Considering he's calling for the amps from Singapore wouldnt you recommend some other brands which are better then Pioneer. Plenty of them available, Alpine, Earthquake, Rockford , Soundstream, Orion etc. Viper
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