[SuperGirl_Dad]

This is a new low for any airline, but I'm not surprised one bit.

Title:

"Drunk man urinates on senior citizen woman co-passenger on Air India flight
DGCA starts investigation into incident that took place on AI’s New York to Delhi flight on November 26"

Link:
https://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...le66336781.ece

Wonder what action would DGCA take on the crew after investigation.

[RedTerrano]

Originally Posted by SuperGirl_Dad

"Drunk man urinates on senior citizen woman co-passenger on Air India flight
DGCA starts investigation into incident that took place on AI’s New York to Delhi flight on November 26"

Air India has taken serious cognisance of this, and has imposed a 30 day ban on the offender. 30 days is the maximum the airline is permitted to unilaterally do so.

Delhi police have also registered an FIR under sections 354,509 and 510 of the IPC.

Hope he is thrown in the slammer for 5 years and is permanently put on the no fly list.

https://aninews.in/news/national/gen...0230104151413/

[fhdowntheline]

What I am surprised is, why did the crew not take any action after landing in DEL? And how come that lady also did not create hell about it after landing? What was the complaint raised by her between Nov 26 and now? If she had made multiple follow ups, why did the airline not take cognizance? Last but not the least, can it be really confirmed that the incident took place in the manner described? Nowadays everything looks really suspicious. I am sorry to say this but many people have been falsely implicated when the truth usually lies somewhere in the middle. I hope they have their facts right.
One final sobering thought:- Would it be too much of a deal if GOI restricts alcohol to just one drink on all international sectors to and from India. Alcohol is not essential for travel comfort . I see no loss of prestige here frankly. Those who have to travel to India will do so regardless.

[v1p3r]

Originally Posted by RedTerrano

Air India has taken serious cognisance of this, and has imposed a 30 day ban on the offender. 30 days is the maximum the airline is permitted to unilaterally do so.

Delhi police have also registered an FIR under sections 354,509 and 510 of the IPC.

Hope he is thrown in the slammer for 5 years and is permanently put on the no fly list.

https://aninews.in/news/national/gen...0230104151413/

What stands out is:
- The pilot refused to move the drenched lady to an empty first class seat.
- The crew tried to get her to spend the rest of the journey in her soaked and smelly seat.
- Despite telling them she wanted to stay away from the attacker, she was made to face him.
- It took a letter to the Tata chairman and over a month before any action was taken.

Anywhere else in the world (where AI hopes to poach customers from) this would be a jailable offence and possible a 7 figure lawsuit. Only on AI can this be ignored.
If it's true that the pilot ignored this lady's plight, he should be the first to be sacked and then arrested.

I used to be partial to AI internationally, based on the general warmth and quality of food in J, even in the sarkari days. Based on this (and another) incident, I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole. Clearly an unsafe airline, possibly twice as bad if you're a solo woman traveler.

[no_fear]

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/anot...lanket-3666222

This incident happened on December 6 on Air India flight 142 and the pilot of the aircraft reported the matter to the Air Traffic Control (ATC) at the Indira Gandhi International (IGI) Airport about it, following which the male passenger was apprehended..... as per NDTV and other outlets.



So this urinating in Air India planes is a recurring theme.

2nd incident recorded on a Paris Delhi flight. Again no action taken as passenger "apologised"

It's high time such passengers are publicly named and shamed.

[RedTerrano]

For the sake of clarity, as per this report https://aninews.in/news/national/gen...0230105234346/
the staff gave her a set of airline pyjama and socks.

Originally Posted by v1p3r

Only on AI can this be ignored.
If it's true that the pilot ignored this lady's plight, he should be the first to be sacked and then arrested.

Agree. This whole episode is utterly disgusting and shameful.
If it hadn't been an airline, but some other form of public transport, the drunkard would have been thrashed within an inch of his life and rightfully so.

I suppose on airlines, people understandably do not want to get themselves on the no fly list by taking the law in their own hands.

[V.Narayan]

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/bu...r-9823021.html

Wells Fargo terminates its Vice President Shankar Mishra who urinated on a senior citizen lady on the now infamous Air India flight. Net net if Times of India had not reported this incident Air India was hoping it would be business as usual. With no disrespect to Tata's but it seems in one year of their take over they have not done enough on employee training and expectations.

Drunk men peeing in Air India aisles seems to be getting fashionable. As it is many Indian males believe peeing anywhere in the open is a fundamental freedom enshrined in the constitution.

I suspect Air India's new advertising tag line will be -

"Fly business class, enjoy unlimited drinks and pee freely"

[Amrik Singh]

Originally Posted by V.Narayan

I suspect Air India's new advertising tag line will be -

"Fly business class, enjoy unlimited drinks and pee freely"

It is the duty of Flight Stewards to kerp check on the Liquor served to Passenger to avoid such untoward instance. A reputable organization has terminated the service of their employee while AI tried to downplay the incidence.
Taglines are a plenty

What's the difference between the old and new Air India?

A) in the old one you were merely pissed off.

B) in the new one you are pissed on.


After the urination incident on Air-India….

Air India’s new tagline “Number 1 Airline”! 🤪

[v1p3r]

Originally Posted by Amrik Singh

What's the difference between the old and new Air India?

A) in the old one you were merely pissed off.

B) in the new one you are pissed on.


After the urination incident on Air-India….

Air India’s new tagline “Number 1 Airline”! 🤪

I saw another one. The lovely Maharaja welcoming people onboard, saying 'Fly Air India, Pee the World'.

And of course, now we have Mishraji ke papa defending his laadla - https://www.hindustantimes.com/india...015130467.html. "He is 34, his daughter is 18". Next sonny boy is going to jail for underage marriage.

[V.Narayan]

Received this on WA. Credits to its creator Tarique Javed.

[dailydriver]

Although Air India is (rightly, I must admit) being hounded about for the uncouth manner in which it handled the situation, I am apalled at the level to which humanity has nosedived wherein a well educated gentleman has the gall to relieve himself in public, in a plane, in front of co-passengers.

He might have been drunk to the brim, he could have lost control of himself, he might have had one of those wet (not the erotic kind) dreams and imagined that he was in a loo.

But does his (hopefully functional) brain not distinguish between a simple right and wrong?

Plane, Train, Bus, Taxi - wherever done, the act is shameful and unwarranted.

Give all hell to the carrier; but don't spare the reliever.

[GTO]

Mod Note: Pee-gate posts moved to a new thread!

[volkman10]

Air India CEO Campbell Wilson writes to employees over the November 26 incident and asks to report incidents of improper behaviour on an aircraft to authorities immediately.

[SR-71]

This article has an account from the passenger seated next to the 'pissfull' passenger

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...w/96801219.cms

Clearly the entire crew bungled up on multiple counts, most notable being

• Continuing to serve alcohol to someone who was visibly drunk
• Not keeping an eye on him when there was a formal notification about his state from a co-passenger
• Finally, and the worst one that I fail to comprehend, the pilot's ineptitude(ness) to grasp the trauma of his passenger and deny her a decent alternative seating arrangement when one was available

And here is my prediction for the AI crew behavior in the future. They will go from being carefree about alcohol to behaving like a school headmaster. Unless the crew are properly trained to be passionate and sensible about their job, they are not going to do the right thing. If this was the west, the traumatized passenger would probably be ringing her cash register.

[volkman10]

Air India's statement on the incident, seems in a damage control mode. But definitely this incident has tarnished the airline to a large extent as lapses are evident.