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Originally Posted by R2D2
(Post 2092353)
My suggestion is for both primes and zooms. Taking your example; actually the 35mm DX lens & 50 mm 1.4/1.8 are in the US $150 to 300 range. They are a fraction of the price of the recently introduced 35mm AF-S F1.4/G which is very expensive (US$ 1800) and targetted to professional FX cameramen. In India the 35mm DX is about Rs 13K as per Nikon's site while the newer lens' price is not published possibly because they haven't yet received any stocks from Nikon Japan. |
Originally Posted by R2D2
(Post 2092353)
If you must go in for a 50mm lens go in for the 50mm f/1.8 AF-D which retails at about Rs 7K. Or the 50mm 1.4 @ Rs 14K. Both are serious value for money. |
Originally Posted by sbraj
(Post 2093921)
Yes, from price point of view, 50mm prime makes a lot of sense. The AF-only lens option without AF-S makes the lenses cheaper. To be sure of what I am talking about, I used my 18-105 lens on D90 to photograph the same human subject from a fixed distance of 3m. Zoom positions used were 18, 25, 35, 50, 75 and 105. - I personally liked the 25mm photo (effective 37mm on D90) which covered enough of the surroundings without compromising on the facial expression of the subject. - Next best was 35mm (effective 52mm on D90). - 50mm (effective 75mm on D90) was too close to the subject, IMO. Basically I am talking about the angle of view. When this requirement is married with the price factor, AF-S DX NIKKOR 35mm f/1.8G is the best bet IMO. Is this argument convincing? Or would you step back a couple of meters and achieve the same angle of view with a 50mm? |
Originally Posted by R2D2
(Post 2093965)
I assume your 18-105 is a FX lens..am I right? If it is a DX lens then your conversion to D90 focal length is not required. A 50 mm setting on a DX lens is, well, equal to a 50 mm setting on a D90. |
Originally Posted by R2D2
(Post 2093965)
So to answer your question, no I would not step back to frame the subject with a zoom. Much rather use a prime. But since you have an option of a 35mm F/1.8 DX lens that would my choice. |
Originally Posted by R2D2
(Post 2093965)
I assume your 18-105 is a FX lens..am I right? If it is a DX lens then your conversion to D90 focal length is not required. A 50 mm setting on a DX lens is, well, equal to a 50 mm setting on a D90. OTOH, it would be equal to about approx 30mm on a FX camera. |
Originally Posted by shajufx
(Post 2093402)
What I meant by 5 hours photowalk is a maximum rough calculation of 1 shot per minute thats 60 shots per hour and 300 shots in 5 hours. We know thats the extreme, because I dont think we shoot that many in a walk. I come back with 150 shots max after a 5 hour mad walk with or without a group. Thats because I am a learner and I shoot many unwanted, badly composed ones. Once you mature, you might get 100+ well framed and well composed shots in that time frame, if not less :) |
Originally Posted by shajufx
(Post 2093259)
I thought of sharing a Megapixel Vs Print size comparison compiled by Thom Hogan. He refers to inkjet printers. According to him, even a 10-12 MP cam can produce 20x30 upwards prints by doing stitching multiple shots of the same (by bracketing). |
Originally Posted by amitk26
(Post 2094288)
Not quite the focal lengths even on lenses meant for cropped bodies are always mentioned in terms of FF focal lenght and you need to calculate the equivalent. So you still need to multiply by 1.5 to get the FF equivalent focal length. In DX format Nikon has reduced the diameter of optical elements so the lens has become lighter and cheaper , If you mount DX on FX you will get actual Focal length but vingineting due to smaller diameter. Canon does the same on EF-S. |
Originally Posted by MileCruncher
(Post 2094566)
I have been reading about the crop factor on DSLR viz-a-viz 35mm / Full Frame Camera and understand that Canon DSLR's have a 1.6 Crop Factor. This means that a 100MM lens while attached to the body will give you a field of view equivalent to a 160mm lens. But will the 100 MM lens show magnification equivalent to 160mm as well? If so then wouldn't make better sense to have a high end consumer DSLR rather than a full frame whereby you get a better magnification. |
Originally Posted by R2D2
(Post 2094581)
I think most people misunderstand crop factor. Crop factor is NOT magnification. It is essentially cutting or cropping of a portion of the FX or 35mm frame to depict a smaller part. Therefore a cropped frame is a subset of an FX frame. |
Originally Posted by MileCruncher
(Post 2094608)
Thats what I wanted to clarify. So what you are saying is that only the field of view gets cropped. So how come in P&S compact cameras, which have high crop factors of 5-6, give you magnification of 200mm with only a 30mm lens? |
Originally Posted by Samurai
(Post 2094321)
Even a pro can't get 100+ well framed shots in 5 hours. He will be lucky to get 10 great shots. |
Originally Posted by R2D2
(Post 2094539)
......Therefore an 18-200mm lens on a DX camera is marked with graduations that start with 18mm and extend to 200mm. This is equal to a 28-300mm zoom on a FX body. |
Originally Posted by R2D2
(Post 2094581)
...... Crop factor is NOT magnification. It is essentially cutting or cropping of a portion of the FX or 35mm frame to depict a smaller part. Therefore a cropped frame is a subset of an FX frame. |
Originally Posted by shajufx
(Post 2094654)
Is it not 27-300 equivalent (Nikon)? In practice, it will give higher magnification for a macro work purely because every lens on a DX body will give 1.5 times more reach ! I am giving an example below, its taken with my 200mm zoom lens on D90, so in effect its in 300mm, but would have remained 200 itself on a FX body. If I dont reveal it, it would look like an image shot with a dedicated macro lens. |
Originally Posted by R2D2
(Post 2094539)
Uh uh..nopes. I am not sure what Canon does but I am sure that Nikon DX lens markings are not their equivalent on 35mm/FX cameras. Read here: 18-200mm AF-S DX VR Lens Review by Thom Hogan I quote: "The 18-200mm focal range gives you angle of views from ~8 to 76 degrees on a DSLR; it's effectively the same as using an 28-300mm lens on a 35mm body." End quote |
Originally Posted by amitk26
(Post 2094784)
Exactly that is what I am saying Dear R2D2. An 18mm on DX / EF-S gives similar angle of view as 28mm on full frame. So if you are buying a 50mm Canon or Nikon Lens then the focal length is ofcourse 50mm but due to crop factor "effective" Focal length is 50X1.6= 80mm so what was a walk-around lens on FF body works for portraits. 35mm lens is the one which will give equivelence of 50mm prime on APS-C sensor body. This is exactly what was meant earlier. |
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