The TV Thread - LCD, LED etc.

islandman · 27th January 2007, 00:31

I was in total agreement with Samurai till I saw the Bravai with Wega engine LCD. I do not think there is any loss of clarity either on the vertical or horizontal plane.

But again, with the power consumption dropping to 300w compared to 1000w a couple of years back and the price difference of about 40-50k ( comparing 42" plasma with a 40" LCD). The plasma makes a better choice.

islandman · 27th January 2007, 00:33

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Originally Posted by Samurai

I compared LCD and Plasma for a long time before settling for Plasma two months back. Even plasma technology has improved leaps and bounds, and Samsung is the clear leader. The major problem with LCD is the viewing angle. If you are not sitting right in front of it, the image will suffer. While it has acceptable viewing angle along the horizontal plane, the viewing angle is very acute in the vertical plane. If you are standing in front a LCD TV placed for sitting audience, you can barely see the clarity. Even in the seating position, if you deviate from the center of the LCD screen along the vertical plane, there will be lose of clarity.

I was in total agreement with Samurai till I saw the 40" Bravia with the Wega engine. I do not think there is any loss of clarity either on the vertical or horizontal plane on that LCD.

But again, with the power consumption dropping to 300w compared to 1000w a couple of years back and the price difference of about 40-50k ( comparing 42" plasma with a 40" LCD). The plasma makes a better choice.

islandman · 29th January 2007, 12:27

Sorry Mods about the repeat postings... Also I need to change the first line. I was in agreement with Samurai until I saw the New Bravia series at the AV expo last week. the model was a 40 or 42 incher, the model number ended with 200A

In my humble opinion, the new bravia lcd's bet everything at the expo (Hitachi,LG, Onida,TCL) except the pioneer plasmas which I would judge as equals.

mrhap · 29th January 2007, 12:36

any feedback on the lg time machine plasma tv? it has 80 gb hard disk, u can record tv programs and also dvds....how is the lg quality?

esteem_lover · 29th January 2007, 13:41

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Originally Posted by determinus

Two issues with LCDs are that

a) The pixels can die. And when it does, you just loose one line from the display. The life/quality of any batch of transistors cannot be uniform, so dead pixel is quite a possibility. The replacement can only be done as complete panel, and costs 25k or so.

b) You cannot control the intensity of the glow, the pixel is either on or off. In plasma - technically - the voltage can be controlled for better intensity. BTW, the intensity is not a major issue in dimly lite rooms and if watching distance is 15' or more.

Plasma also has its own issues. But with Laser projection devices (touted as Plasma/ LCD killer) on the horizon, I would rather wait for 6-9 months for the Laser TV to come out. And even if it cannot kill them both, the LCD/ Plasma prices are going to come down sharply. I certainly wont mind a Bravia 40" for 75k. As for the dead pixels, I will take that chance.

well said, determinus. at last there is someone who looks beyond the excellent LCDs & plasmas. When the Laser TV does come out, the indian market will be flooded with the better LCDs & Plasmas & that is the time to buy LCDs & plasma Tvs in india.

shuvc · 29th January 2007, 13:52

Saw a 42" Videocon Plasma being advertised for 52K on exchange with a 29" CRT.
Q1. Does Videocon manufacture their own panels ? Or do they have a tie up ?
Q2. How much would the TV cost without the exchange ? Or how much to they normally give for an old 29" TV ?

esteem_lover · 29th January 2007, 15:15

I think most of the panels are made by samsung.

gkrishn · 3rd February 2007, 23:53

The price of bordeaux 32" has dropped to 62k in bangalore.

esteem_lover · 4th February 2007, 17:35

Sansui has dropped the prices of their LCD sets real low. 26" costs 29K now. i dont know about the response times though.

autopsyche · 5th February 2007, 02:51

Just booked mine today. Getting delivery tomorrw... Philips 32" LCD Model #7321 with Pixel Plus alongwith a Philips HD DVD player . I just compared it with Samsung bordeaux and i found this wayyyy better in terms of picture quality. These were the only two brands fitting in my budget. Will give a proper feedback in a couple of days... yummy cant wait to watch lotsa movies!

gkrishn · 5th February 2007, 09:31

So i finally got the bordueax on saturday night. The tata sky did a impressive installation job.

Watching BBC for example, was pretty good. But that was because the almost static picture of the anchor. Watching a cricket match, found that espn, ten sports and even neo was a notch better than the star sports. In general when bowler starts the run up, the sharpness of grass on out field kind gets smugged. Think this is a response time issue. With 8ms, the human eye is not supposed to notice this. Guess as some noted, this is a grey to grey, and actual reading for black to black could be higher.

BTW even if it is tata sky, dont attempt to watch certain DD channels on LCD. They are horrible...

esteem_lover · 5th February 2007, 12:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by autopsyche

Just booked mine today. Getting delivery tomorrw... Philips 32" LCD Model #7321 with Pixel Plus alongwith a Philips HD DVD player . I just compared it with Samsung bordeaux and i found this wayyyy better in terms of picture quality. These were the only two brands fitting in my budget. Will give a proper feedback in a couple of days... yummy cant wait to watch lotsa movies!

Great !! and congrats. Even i found the Phillips to be wayyyy better than samsung, though a tad expensive. Please do give us a complete feedback regarding how the TV signals (Weak & Strong) are shown.

rangaraj · 6th February 2007, 13:11

I would recommend that anyone buying a TV now should look for 1080p capability as its the highest resolution in HD formats.. You are beginning to see these models being introduced by Samsung, Hitachi, Sharp, Panasonic etc.

Akshay1234 · 6th February 2007, 13:49

there are 2 1080p tvs that ive seen. the samsung 46" full hd mosel which ive got my eye on. it costs aobut 2l. and a sony bravia 46" which costs 2l 64k

rangaraj · 6th February 2007, 13:51

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Originally Posted by akshay1234

there are 2 1080p tvs that ive seen. the samsung 46" full hd mosel which ive got my eye on. it costs aobut 2l. and a sony bravia 46" which costs 2l 64k

There are cheaper ones available..
Samsung LCD TV gives a pointer to Samsung ones.. The 40" is around 1.5L list..

27th January 2007, 00:31	#76
islandman BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: bangalore Posts: 94 Thanked: Once View My Garage	I was in total agreement with Samurai till I saw the Bravai with Wega engine LCD. I do not think there is any loss of clarity either on the vertical or horizontal plane. But again, with the power consumption dropping to 300w compared to 1000w a couple of years back and the price difference of about 40-50k ( comparing 42" plasma with a 40" LCD). The plasma makes a better choice.
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29th January 2007, 12:27	#78
islandman BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: bangalore Posts: 94 Thanked: Once View My Garage	Sorry Mods about the repeat postings... Also I need to change the first line. I was in agreement with Samurai until I saw the New Bravia series at the AV expo last week. the model was a 40 or 42 incher, the model number ended with 200A In my humble opinion, the new bravia lcd's bet everything at the expo (Hitachi,LG, Onida,TCL) except the pioneer plasmas which I would judge as equals.
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29th January 2007, 12:36	#79
mrhap BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: DELHI Posts: 39 Thanked: 0 Times	any feedback on the lg time machine plasma tv? it has 80 gb hard disk, u can record tv programs and also dvds....how is the lg quality?
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29th January 2007, 13:52	#81
shuvc Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kolkata Posts: 2,911 Thanked: 359 Times View My Garage	Saw a 42" Videocon Plasma being advertised for 52K on exchange with a 29" CRT. Q1. Does Videocon manufacture their own panels ? Or do they have a tie up ? Q2. How much would the TV cost without the exchange ? Or how much to they normally give for an old 29" TV ?
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29th January 2007, 15:15	#82
esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras/Py Posts: 7,556 Thanked: 513 Times View My Garage	I think most of the panels are made by samsung.
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3rd February 2007, 23:53	#83
gkrishn BHPian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 650 Thanked: 149 Times View My Garage	The price of bordeaux 32" has dropped to 62k in bangalore.
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4th February 2007, 17:35	#84
esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras/Py Posts: 7,556 Thanked: 513 Times View My Garage	Sansui has dropped the prices of their LCD sets real low. 26" costs 29K now. i dont know about the response times though.
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5th February 2007, 02:51	#85
autopsyche Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New Delhi, Indi Posts: 1,511 Thanked: 36 Times View My Garage	Just booked mine today. Getting delivery tomorrw... Philips 32" LCD Model #7321 with Pixel Plus alongwith a Philips HD DVD player . I just compared it with Samsung bordeaux and i found this wayyyy better in terms of picture quality. These were the only two brands fitting in my budget. Will give a proper feedback in a couple of days... yummy cant wait to watch lotsa movies!
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5th February 2007, 09:31	#86
gkrishn BHPian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 650 Thanked: 149 Times View My Garage	So i finally got the bordueax on saturday night. The tata sky did a impressive installation job. Watching BBC for example, was pretty good. But that was because the almost static picture of the anchor. Watching a cricket match, found that espn, ten sports and even neo was a notch better than the star sports. In general when bowler starts the run up, the sharpness of grass on out field kind gets smugged. Think this is a response time issue. With 8ms, the human eye is not supposed to notice this. Guess as some noted, this is a grey to grey, and actual reading for black to black could be higher. BTW even if it is tata sky, dont attempt to watch certain DD channels on LCD. They are horrible...
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6th February 2007, 13:11	#88
rangaraj BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 570 Thanked: 10 Times	Look for 1080p capability I would recommend that anyone buying a TV now should look for 1080p capability as its the highest resolution in HD formats.. You are beginning to see these models being introduced by Samsung, Hitachi, Sharp, Panasonic etc.
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6th February 2007, 13:49	#89
Akshay1234 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 10,327 Thanked: 12,914 Times	there are 2 1080p tvs that ive seen. the samsung 46" full hd mosel which ive got my eye on. it costs aobut 2l. and a sony bravia 46" which costs 2l 64k
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