[saket77]

Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom

Hmmm... We got a new KAFF just a few weeks ago.

We too at my in-laws place. 3 months back. This model: https://www.amazon.in/dp/B0CWLL65SP?...n_title_1&th=1

We have an old school Sunflame in our own kitchen going strong for more than 12 years now. Once in a while we just put the filter into the dishwasher for cleaning the oily residue. Planning to just change the small halogens to LEDs.

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Originally Posted by ghodlur

Most of the Chimneys which I evaluated were of 58 db with a few models from various brands advertising 54db. Are the BLDC ones are silent as claimed by few brands?

Just wondering if there's anything like a Quiet Mark accreditation for consumer appliances in India? Not that it'll probably mean much given our overall higher noise levels but essentially appliances with this accreditation can be expected to be significantly quieter than normal.

https://www.quietmark.com/

Should say though, I wager consumers in India would gladly go for quieter options if given the choice (provided said item was still adequate at doing it's primary job). Not sure how such accreditation and testing is paid for, though that raises an immediate issue with an Indian Quiet Mark sticker.

[Thad E Ginathom]

Originally Posted by ghodlur

Are the BLDC ones are silent as claimed by few brands?

Silent, no. But I don't think that anything that moves air will be silent, because moving air makes noise.

Our old chimney had become very noisy, so our new one is a lot quieter and a welcome change.

NB: Installer's advice: turn off at main switch when not using, otherwise the pcb will go. Hmmm... sounds a bit like early inverter AC machines! You might be better off with the older AC technology!

[Aviator_guy]

Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom

Silent, no. But I don't think that anything that moves air will be silent, because moving air makes noise.

Slight correction. Noise is due to motor as well as filters. There are silent chimneys which come with mesh type filters. Believe me, they are significantly less noisy vs regular baffle filter chimneys.

For example, check this out

Elica Deep Silent Kitchen Chimney
https://amzn.in/d/5kfGdkk

[Thad E Ginathom]

Originally Posted by Aviator_guy

Noise is due to motor as well as filters.

I didn't say otherwise.

I meant that, however one reduces mechanical noise, there will always be some airflow noise. But motor quality, bearings, vibration, transfer to case can certainly be improved. Our old chimney with its replacement motor sounded like an old bus on a bad day!

The chimney in your link looks good. Amazon doesn't give a price for my area. Looks like they are burying the motor as deep as they can.

I'm guessing that, the next step would be to put the suction unit outside the room.

[Sebring]

Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom

NB: Installer's advice: turn off at main switch when not using, otherwise the pcb will go...

OR may catch fire. Like in my case.

[ghodlur]

Originally Posted by Aviator_guy

Elica Deep Silent Kitchen Chimney
https://amzn.in/d/5kfGdkk

This chimney has a noise level of 60db as mentioned in the product specs, which is much higher than the normal 58 and 54db ones which are available in market. Wonder how this is a silent chimney.

Originally Posted by Sebring

The brand new Kaff motor caught fire at 3AM damaging the kitchen.

Any idea why the chimney caught fire? Was it electrical related or residue oil related? You mentioned at 3 am in the morning, how did you realize the unit was on fire? Sorry for too many questions, just curious to know.

[Aviator_guy]

Originally Posted by ghodlur

This chimney has a noise level of 60db as mentioned in the product specs, which is much higher than the normal 58 and 54db ones which are available in market. Wonder how this is a silent chimney.

We have both type of chimneys (baffle filter and silent one with mesh type filter) in the family and there is world of difference in the noise level. Not sure what is printed dB levels for both but can definitely vouch for the reduced noise.

It is better to chek out the chimneys in their store for real world noise levels.

[Sebring]

Originally Posted by ghodlur

Any idea why the chimney caught fire? Was it electrical related or residue oil related? You mentioned at 3 am in the morning, how did you realize the unit was on fire? Sorry for too many questions, just curious to know.

The motor caught fire.
There was no residual oil since unit is brand new.

We have an internal WYZE cam. So it is quite interesting to watch.

So Dad gets up to have water at 2:59 AM, there was a spark inside the motor at 3 AM, and then it raged within.
Wood is fire resistant, so it did not catch fire. But Dad raised alarm.

And then it was doused, within a minute. Else it would have been disastrous, with two gas cylinders and kitchen being next to EXIT/ENTRANCE.

Getting 'EXIT doors' done for window grills now. Ordered a new FABER CHIMNEY.

[meerkat]

Originally Posted by Sebring

..... there was a spark inside the motor at 3 AM, and then it raged within.

How did it get its power? Wasn't it plugged into a switched socket ?! Just curious.
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[Sebring]

Originally Posted by meerkat

How did it get its power? Wasn't it plugged into a switched socket ?! Just curious.

The switch was ON. We had asked the cook to switch off every appliance before she leaves, but she forgot.

[Aviator_guy]

Originally Posted by Sebring

The motor caught fire.
There was no residual oil since unit is brand new. We have an internal WYZE cam. So it is quite interesting to watch.
So Dad gets up to have water at 2:59 AM, there was a spark inside the motor at 3 AM, and then it raged within.

My gosh, I'm shocked by the incident and more so by the sheer coincidence that your dad saw it the right moment at 3AM.. What are the odds

Never heard of brand new chimney burning into flames. I have seen PCB getting conged off due to voltage fluctuation but never thought it could lead to fire.

You should also investigate for any lose wires/connection/faulty switches/fuse/ACCL/earthing etc. to rule out any potential lurking danger in the kitchen.

[Thad E Ginathom]

Originally Posted by Sebring

Getting 'EXIT doors' done for window grills now. Ordered a new FABER CHIMNEY.

In UK, most house have smoke alarms. I don't think I've seen them here. A small unit attached to ceiling, they make a shrieking noise that would wake even the soundest sleeper at night. They are very sensitive, and even over-doing the toast can set them off.

They will react to smoke particles long before we can see or smell them, so, even something smouldering can set them off. Hmmm... I should check Amazon and get one!

[Sebring]

Originally Posted by Aviator_guy

You should also investigate for any lose wires/connection/faulty switches/fuse/ACCL/earthing etc. to rule out any potential lurking danger in the kitchen.

Electrician was brought in and he checked and said MOTOR WAS DEFECTIVE. Everything else was checked properly as we are really scared now. Have asked him to put each and every safeguard, price no bar, but he said none required. Will get second opinion this weekend. Not sure who is the best in Bangalore. We also have internal UPS which is also like a guard.

Regarding smoke alarm. It goes off everytime she cooks. Is there any other way?

[ghodlur]

Originally Posted by Sebring

Electrician was brought in and he checked and said MOTOR WAS DEFECTIVE.

Was the unit checked by Kaff team? Ideally if the motor was defective, should you not get a free replacement assuming that the unit will be under warranty?