[pcpranav]

Originally Posted by pcpranav

hello friends,

last month, I got myself Nokia E6; this time phone refresh for 'Home Ministry' !

need suggestion for phone with below major specs:
- Nokia as first choice
- min 5 MP camera (not fixed focus pl), preferably with flash
- Touch (+Type welcome)
- Decent Music output
- WiFi, GPS would be bonus
- Budget - under 15K

thanks,
Pranav

few days back, gifted wify SE Neo V silver and happily exploring it. thanks for all your suggestions. so far so good, just a bit of concern on the battery life - suggestions welcome. maybe my next post(s) on this phone would be on Android thread !

[agspins]

Any ideas when is Galaxy W I8150 is being launched?

[lamborghini]

Originally Posted by abdriver2000

What do you guys do with your old phones? Are there any places in India where you can exchange them for cash/coupons like in the west?

I have about 4 GSM and 1 CDMA phone lying around. Some of them are in good shape, and some have minor issues. I have seen people selling them for parts on ebay, but don't know how to price them.

Depending on how old they are, you could either sell them, or give them away.
In Mumbai, you could try selling them at Heera Panna in Tardeo/Pedder Road. Similarly, there are other such small electronic shops that sell and buy phones.
However, I am not so sure about the CDMA phone.

[NetfreakBombay]

Nokia:

1. Posted a loss of 1.8 Billion USD for last year
2. Losing Market share in developing countries (its bread and butter)
3. Working on a new Linux based OS (Maltemi) and cheaper Windows phones to counter this slide

Nokia... build an Adroid phone already.

Sources :

http://i.nokia.com/blob/view/-/10159...0-f-11-pdf.pdf
UPDATE 1-Nokia maps fightback against cheap Android phones | Reuters

[joslicx]

Originally Posted by NetfreakBombay

Nokia:

Nokia... build an Adroid phone already.

Well its not like everybody making an Android is minting money! In 2011, only HTC and Samsung made any real money in this business. Even the likes of Motorola, LG, Sony Ericsson etc lost money!

Nokia was a tremendously technically innovative company at one point of time. They lost out in the smartphone race. Now just jumping on Android bandwagon is not going to solve their problems. There is hardly anything brilliant to do in bringing out an Android device! Towards the high end of the spectrum it is a very stupid rat race of bringing out the next big phone - single core became dual, dual has become quad, 4 inch became 4.3 and 4.3 became 4.7 and that became 5.. there is no end to that, you bring one top of the line marquee model in 2 months it becomes obsolete! What is innovative about that? Its an unneccesary bloodbath. I think Nokia has wisely chosen to stay away from this madness.

Instead of focussing on newer devices or the latest Hardware, I wish Android device manufacturers focussed more on end user experience (a la Apple). It sucks frankly. Google has released the ICS for months now and how many devices has that? 0.6%!!! By the time I get it on my Droid, the next Android version would have come. And my phone is again going to be left behind! What is the point then in wasting 7-800 dollars on a high end android device if it is not going to be running the latest Software? This is not a problem with any other OS out there! Today if Google finds any bug in their OS (and there are many), they fix it and make a new release. Wanna bet on when that bugfix is going to be available on your Android device?? So you are going to be living with bugs for far longer time while Google actually had already fixed those eons ago. I wish manufacturers improved this aspect rather than just specs or endless new devices.

I wish Nokia goes back to its golden days as an innovator. Give new, mindboggling products and 808 is a good start. I want to see more such products that others (read Samsung, HTC, Sony etc) can only dream of. Let these companies fight amongst themselves and kill each other in the stupid Android rat race.

[NetfreakBombay]

Originally Posted by joslicx

Well its not like everybody making an Android is minting money! In 2011, only HTC and Samsung made any real money in this business. Even the likes of Motorola, LG, Sony Ericsson etc lost money!

Windows Phone is not making any money either....

Originally Posted by joslicx

Nokia was a tremendously technically innovative company at one point of time. They lost out in the smartphone race. Now just jumping on Android bandwagon is not going to solve their problems. There is hardly anything brilliant to do in bringing out an Android device!

Rant/
Nokia's expertise lie in hardware and its strength is (was) in brand. In Malad/Gorgaon (Mumbai), Nokia had 3 stores. In last few months, all have closed and biggest one (In Inorbit Mall), is being replaced by a Samsung mobile store.

Till about couple of years ago, mobile phone meant a Nokia phone for me.

A phone like Nokia N9 running Android would have been piece de resistance
/Rant

Nokia is anyway working on an OS based on Linux. Instead of that, if it uses that part and marries it with Android, it will gain huge ecosystem of Apps and content.

[Durango Dude]

I feel Nokia will have to improve 'touch' and 'feel' of its phones by leap and bounds to be in the reckoning. After shifting to the iPhone 4 my previous N8 feels primitive on 'touch' and 'feel' itself let alone the specs and features, even after moving to Belle. It's decades behind the iPhone and at least 5 years behind Android. Why is Nokia not venturing into Android segment?

[Bluengel180]

Originally Posted by Durango Dude

Why is Nokia not venturing into Android segment?

Because microsoft has an alliance and a stake in nokia. it will never be going the android route

[extreme_torque]

Originally Posted by Durango Dude

I feel Nokia will have to improve 'touch' and 'feel' of its phones by leap and bounds to be in the reckoning. After shifting to the iPhone 4 my previous N8 feels primitive on 'touch' and 'feel' itself let alone the specs and features, even after moving to Belle. It's decades behind the iPhone and at least 5 years behind Android. Why is Nokia not venturing into Android segment?

Belle 5 years behind Android... no way! Though I would like to know the reason why you feel it is.

[ariendj]

As mentioned,the Nokia experience with touch is not as good compared to the competition.this is in respect to the capacitive touch screens on teh higher end phones such as N8,E7 and many of the windows phones!!

But the biggest Gimmick is the resistive screens on the 'touch and type' phones!!
they give up in few months after purchase and nokia just blindly pushes it as a 'liquid damage' issue!! and warranty for these type of phones are just namesake!

[Durango Dude]

Originally Posted by ariendj

As mentioned,the Nokia experience with touch is not as good compared to the competition.this is in respect to the capacitive touch screens on teh higher end phones such as N8,E7 and many of the windows phones!!

But the biggest Gimmick is the resistive screens on the 'touch and type' phones!!
they give up in few months after purchase and nokia just blindly pushes it as a 'liquid damage' issue!! and warranty for these type of phones are just namesake!

Now my 13 year old daughter has my old Nokia 5800 which a pain in the neck to operate. It gave up its ghost within a year and so frustrating it is that I had thrown it down to see if it starts working. Unless the user friendliness of Nokia phones improves it's going to be left behind in the smartphone race of which it was 'king' at one time. I feel once the touch screen phones came Nokia completely lost the plot and hasn't till now figured to get a good 'end user' experience and it lost precious time persisting with Symbian OS of which I was a fan till recently. N8 is also laggy and very volatile in the way it behaves even with Belle. It all boils to the amount of pressure one has to give to make the phone respond to your touch and its at least 10 times more than in an iPhone 4 and it's very slow to respond.

[sgiitk]

I think Nokia + Windows is two dinosaurs getting together. The mammals (read Android & iPhone) will fix then soon. @DD the touch interface in Androids also varies. htc is probably the best. Now that htc supports Bootloader unlocking (but no S-off) there is even more reason to go there.

[Ram]

Change happens. Will continue to happen.
iPhone is an acknowledged colossal failure in India.
The winner has to produce a top performer at under Rs. 5000 market-price.
It is fallacious to jump to the conclusion, "I know everything !"

[Thad E Ginathom]

iPhone is an acknowledged colossal failure in India.

Niche market, isn't it? Those who can afford it!

Has it failed that badly amongst them?

[Ram]

Unlike in the crowds in Singapore, where almost every hand of tiny fingers is jabbing at, or swiping away on iPhones, iPads and other iBaubles. Not so embarrassingly niche in that insignificantly sized market !