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Old 5th August 2020, 09:08   #5731
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The only laptop I currently have right now, which also works, is the ThinkPad I have received from my employer. While I am able to manage for now, it is not a desirable situation for me since there is no spare machine in case anything goes wrong with the ThinkPad.

To solve the above issue, I am looking for a personal 14 inch laptop with Ryzen 4500u /4700u CPU with the following must have requirements:

1. A 512 GB NVMe SSD
2. Backlit keyboard
3. At least 8 GB DDR4 RAM (upgradeable) (not LPDDR4X, this leads to worse CPU performance)
4. A decent screen for multimedia consumption
5. Not by a Chinese company
6. Within 1.6kg and ₹65k
7. 5-6 hours of battery while performing regular office tasks. Video calls, web browsing, running Google docs and sheets on Chrome.

Preference is Asus > Dell = Acer = MSI > HP

The only machine I have found till date which covers all of these must haves is the Asus Zephrus G14 but it will probably cost ₹1lac+ since it is a gaming laptop.

I have been looking for such a machine from the time these devices started coming out but it seems Asus/Acer/HP/Dell/MSI product managers are unable to figure out the secret sauce to make it a reality.

With AMD having such a noticeable performance lead, I don't want to compromise with even a 10th Gen Intel at this stage.

It is possible to overcome the GPU performance lead by opting for an Intel laptop with an Nvidia MX350 but that will lead to additional power draw and lower power efficiency & battery life. But it is definitely not possible to overcome the CPU performance lead in an ultrabook form factor.

I am looking for the additional performance, both computational and thermal, for future proofing and longevity since laptops tend to stay with me for years until they eventually die.

Suggestions for laptops which are in stock are welcome.

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The only laptop I currently have right now, which also works, is the ThinkPad I have received from my employer....Suggestions for laptops which are in stock are welcome.
Check Acer Swift 5. Reviewed by Geekyranjeet on YouTube if you want to check it out. For around 65k, I liked that one. Also very light at 0.9kg
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After the laptop that I use fell down almost a month ago, issues being faced are:

1) The base moulding has cracked;

2) If I lift the laptop slightly to change its position, WiFi, Bluetooth, USB ports get disconnected for say a few seconds;

3) Connector where the 1TB HDD plugs-in is almost loose and gets 'disconnected' when I try to lift the laptop;

4) LCD flickers at certain viewing angles.

5) Boot time is around 02 minutes 55 seconds after that only the laptop responds to right-clicks or anything.

6) The battery is dead fully, runs on AC power only.

7) Speaker isn't working anymore.

Current laptop configuration is - Dell Inspiron 15R 7520 SE:
RAM: 8GB DDR3, 1600 MHz
CPU: Intel Core i7-3612QM
GPU: AMD Radeon HD 7730M (2GB DDR3)
HDD: Western Digital - 1TB (5400 rpm)
Display: 15.6”, Full HD (1920 x 1080)
Battery: 48 Wh, Lithium-Ion, 6-cell
OS (64bit): Windows 10.

Is it worth to get the laptop repaired? If this doesn't seem worthy, I'll have to start looking out for a new one.

The laptop that I wish to get: Asus Zephyrus G14 (GA401IV)

RAM: 16GB DDR4, 3200MHz
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 4900HS
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Max-Q (6GB)1285MHz, 65W
HDD: M.2 NVMe PCIe 3.0 1TB
Display: 14”, FHD 120Hz IPS, 100% sRGB, Adaptive Sync (1920 x 1080)
Battery: 75 Wh, Lithium-Ion
OS: Windows 10 Home
Colour: Eclipse Grey
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Old 5th August 2020, 12:51   #5734
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To solve the above issue, I am looking for a personal 14 inch laptop with Ryzen 4500u /4700u CPU with the following must have requirements:

1. A 512 GB NVMe SSD
2. Backlit keyboard
3. At least 8 GB DDR4 RAM (upgradeable) (not LPDDR4X, this leads to worse CPU performance)
4. A decent screen for multimedia consumption
5. Not by a Chinese company
6. Within 1.6kg and ₹65k
7. 5-6 hours of battery while performing regular office tasks. Video calls, web browsing, running Google docs and sheets on Chrome.

Preference is Asus > Dell = Acer = MSI > HP

The only machine I have found till date which covers all of these must haves is the Asus Zephrus G14 but it will probably cost ₹1lac+ since it is a gaming laptop.

Suggestions for laptops which are in stock are welcome.
Look at this one, though not Ryzen 7 but still looks like a very good buy. Stick to the 4th Gen Ryzens.

https://www.reliancedigital.in/asus-...h-/p/491894127

Asus FA566IH-BQ169T TUF Gaming A15 Laptop (AMD Ryzen 5 4600H/8 GB/512 GB SSD/Nvidia GTX 1650 Graphics/Windows 10/FHD), 39.62 cm (15.6 inch)

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After the laptop that I use fell down almost a month ago, issues being faced are:

Is it worth to get the laptop repaired? If this doesn't seem worthy, I'll have to start looking out for a new one.

The laptop that I wish to get: Asus Zephyrus G14 (GA401IV)

RAM: 16GB DDR4, 3200MHz
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 4900HS
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Max-Q (6GB)1285MHz, 65W
HDD: M.2 NVMe PCIe 3.0 1TB
Display: 14”, FHD 120Hz IPS, 100% sRGB, Adaptive Sync (1920 x 1080)
Battery: 75 Wh, Lithium-Ion
OS: Windows 10 Home
Colour: Eclipse Grey
Get a new one, AMD is back with a bang. Check the below link, that is what you are looking for, call the Asus stores and check.

https://technosports.co.in/2020/07/2...0ti-confirmed/

I brought an Asus ROG SCAR II two years back and build quality wise I would rate it better than the present day Dell's. One of the reasons I went for Asus was it had a Single 16 GB stick, where as all others were 2 X 8 sticks, later I added another 16 gigs stick. With the 2 x 8, I would have to throw away both.

Personally would advise you to buy Asus laptops from authorised Asus Store's, in store purchase gives 2 years warranty compared to 1 year what you get online also in store, you can check for any damage to the laptop in front of your eyes. Unfortunatly two years back AMD still wasn't good at laptops else it would have been a Ryzen all the way. More OEM's should launch Ryzen laptops, only ASUS is having more models, shame on DELL for launching just a few Ryzen models.

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It's back in stock now! Go for it? Was waiting for Prime Day sales actually
https://www.flipkart.com/asus-vivobo...m1ac5ceb0c899b
This one is available at 48.5k with citi card right now - fyi

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From some time I have been getting this message on my Dell laptop whenever I plug it in
"The power adapter attached to your system is not recognized. Attach a supported power adapter with at least 130 watts"
I am already using the original charger. This started coming up a year back(the laptop is 2.5 years old) occasionally and re-plugging it usually solved it and it recognized the charger but off late I really need to push it in forcefully to recognize the charger. What can be the issue?
I have this issue with my latitude which is out of warranty. Bios update & other troubleshooting did not help. Had to buy a new laptop charger.

Try it with another dell charger suitable for your model and then decide.

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This one is available at 48.5k with citi card right now - fyi
Got this one instead for ~49.5 with 6 month no cost EMI:
https://www.flipkart.com/hp-pavilion...=1596641550542

Thanks to Amien & others!
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Old 6th August 2020, 13:56   #5737
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The above model is launched, I believe this model doesn't have a webcam.

https://www.amazon.in/ASUS-Zephyrus-Graphics-Windows-GA401II-HE169TS/dp/B08CFZDZLF/ref=sr_1_12?dchild=1&keywords=asus+ryzen+laptops&q id=1596701600&s=kitchen&sr=1-12-catcorr

https://www.amazon.in/ASUS-Zephyrus-Graphics-Moonlight-GA401IU-HE138TS/dp/B08CFSS78G/ref=sr_1_13?dchild=1&keywords=asus+ryzen+laptops&q id=1596701600&s=kitchen&sr=1-13-catcorr
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The only laptop I currently have right now, which also works, is the ThinkPad I have received from my employer. While I am able to manage for now, it is not a desirable situation for me since there is no spare machine in case anything goes wrong with the ThinkPad.

To solve the above issue, I am looking for a personal 14 inch laptop with Ryzen 4500u /4700u CPU with the following must have requirements:

1. A 512 GB NVMe SSD
2. Backlit keyboard
3. At least 8 GB DDR4 RAM (upgradeable) (not LPDDR4X, this leads to worse CPU performance)
4. A decent screen for multimedia consumption
5. Not by a Chinese company
6. Within 1.6kg and ₹65k
7. 5-6 hours of battery while performing regular office tasks. Video calls, web browsing, running Google docs and sheets on Chrome.

Preference is Asus > Dell = Acer = MSI > HP
.
Considering that you have a Thinkpad, if you keep aside the "no Chinese company " constraint, the newly launched Lenovo Flex5 perfectly fits your requirements and then some for 57k.

Specs: Ryzen 4500, 8GB ram, 512GB SSD, Touch screen with pen support and an Active pen included in the box, good battery life, IPS display,front firing speakeds, finger print reader and one of the best features only Lenovo provides, a Webcam shutter.
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I could configure this specs for a ThinkPad E15 laptop for $1121/-(Approx. INR 84K).
What's the significance of E/T/X prefix on their 'ThinkPad' line of laptops?
Could we upgrade the additional RAM, going ahead?

Processor : AMD Ryzen™ 7 4700U Processor (2.00 GHz, up to 4.10 GHz Max Boost, 8 Cores, 8 Threads, 8 MB Cache)
Operating System : Windows 10 Pro 64
Operating System Language : Windows 10 Pro 64 English
Onboard Memory : 8 GB DDR4 3200MHz (Soldered)
Selectable Memory : 8 GB DDR4 3200MHz
Total Memory : 16 GB DDR4 3200MHz (8 GB Soldered + 8 GB DIMM)
First Hard Drive : 512 GB PCIe SSD 2242
Display : 15.6" FHD (1920 x 1080) IPS, anti-glare, 250 nits
Graphic Card : Integrated AMD Radeon™ Graphics
Camera : 720p HD
Keyboard : Backlit - US English with number pad
Keyboard Patch : None
Wireless : Intel® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 802.11AX (2 x 2) & Bluetooth® 5.0
TPM Setting : Enabled Discrete TPM2.0
Absolute BIOS Selection : BIOS Absolute Enabled
Battery : 3 Cell Li-Polymer 45Wh
Power Cord : 65W AC
Display Panel : 15.6" FHD(1920x1080) WVA Anti-Glare 250nits Non-Touch, 720p HD Camera with Shutter, Mic, Al, Black
Language Pack : Publication-English
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What's the significance of E/T/X prefix on their 'ThinkPad' line of laptops?
Could we upgrade the additional RAM, going ahead?

Onboard Memory : 8 GB DDR4 3200MHz (Soldered)
Selectable Memory : 8 GB DDR4 3200MHz
Total Memory : 16 GB DDR4 3200MHz (8 GB Soldered + 8 GB DIMM)
Not sure about the prefix. The laptop has two ram slots, one 8 GB RAM stick has been soldered on to slot 1 (this cannot be upgraded), but the second slot can be upgraded, I believe it will take a max of 16 gigs, so max ram you can upgrade to is 24 GB. Personally speaking, I wouldn't go for soldered ram, but then your use might be different.
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1. A 512 GB NVMe SSD
2. Backlit keyboard
3. At least 8 GB DDR4 RAM (upgradeable) (not LPDDR4X, this leads to worse CPU performance)
4. A decent screen for multimedia consumption
5. Not by a Chinese company
6. Within 1.6kg and ₹65k
7. 5-6 hours of battery while performing regular office tasks. Video calls, web browsing, running Google docs and sheets on Chrome.

Preference is Asus > Dell = Acer = MSI > HP
Sir for your kind information, Asus is a Chinese brand and you have mentioned in your requirements that the brand should not be Chinese.
IMO if you can increase your budget to around 75-80k then you'll find suitable options from HP and Dell which would fulfill your requirements. AMD is definitely leading in the game and offering much more bang for buck as compared to Intel.
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Sir for your kind information, Asus is a Chinese brand and you have mentioned in your requirements that the brand should not be Chinese.
Wrong. Asus is Taiwan based company, not China.
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Sir for your kind information, Asus is a Chinese brand and you have mentioned in your requirements that the brand should not be Chinese.
A small correction, Asus is a Taiwanese company and it is not a Chinese brand

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A small correction, Asus is a Taiwanese company and it is not a Chinese brand
My bad sir sorry for the mistake. I hope being a newbie I'm allowed a bit of an error margin.
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My bad sir sorry for the mistake. I hope being a newbie I'm allowed a bit of an error margin.
It’s cool Lowflyer, newbie or not, a person who doesn’t or hasn’t made a mistake has yet to be born. Learning from and not repeating our mistakes is what separates the men from the boys.

Hope I am speaking on behalf of everyone

Cheers

P. S. - please excuse OT.

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