Blackberry Phones and Services in India

DueLLeR · 7th October 2009, 16:42

I got my unlocked BB Curve 8310 last week. Before buying the BB, I was using a Nokia E51 on LoopMobile with a 499/mo GPRS pack. I was sure as heck that I will not activate BIS/BES and pay more for the same thing in a new package!

As of today, I'm running my BB to the fullest, including the inbuilt BB browser. The only things not working are the BB e-mail (I use the Gmail app) and BB Messenger (plenty of free IM apps available for BB), without a BIS/BES plan.

1. Installing Opera Mini

The first thing I did was enter the APN settings and GPRS came to life. But with the BB Browser asking for service book entries, I could not do much. So, I installed Opera Mini for BB using the Desktop Manager. So far so good.

2. Installing Gmail and Google Maps

Next, I tried OtA download of Gmail and Google Maps through Opera Mini as they cannot be downloaded to a computer. Sadly, the Opera Mini's user agent identifies the BB as just "8310." As a result, Google thinks it's an unknown phone for which they don't have an app. By installing a user agent switcher add-on in Firefox, I could create a "dummy" Blackberry user agent and managed to download the .jad files. Next, I created a .alx file and separately downloaded the .jar files into the same folder. Fired up the Desktop Manager and installed the apps. In some situations, the Desktop Manager will not let you install new apps by stating no updates were found. You need another piece of software from Blackberry. Don't remember the name now!

3. Enabling the BB Browser

Opera Mini, though very versatile, cannot do many things that the BB Browser can. For example, downloading and installing OtA apps, downloading files, and viewing videos on YouTube through the Media Player. To enable the browser, you need the service book entries, which are pushed to your phone by your provider WHEN you sign up for BIS/BES. What to do?

Follow the instructions of a smart Vietnamese (Home (BlackBerry Without BIS)) and viola! The BB Browser is working just fine without BIS/BES.

I should have done point 3 first, to make the first two simpler. However, as luck would have it, I found this out last.

Cheers!
DueLLeR

nisarg86 · 7th October 2009, 16:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by deepakchan

Research in Motion (RIM) and Reliance India Mobile (RIM) have officially launched BB Tour 9630 for Rs.27,990 right in time just for you

Source: Fonearena (dot) com / blog

Damn !! my uncle is bringing Tour for me from states. 480$. wish i could have wait lil more and get it locally with B&W.

Anyway. currently i have 99 Rs. GPRS plan from Airtel on Nokia 2700. soon i am going to use BB Tour. So i will just continue my 99 GPRS plan. And add the 299/- BIS Plan for email.
both plan should work together. Hope Airtel doesn't disable my 99 GPRS plan after activating BIS plan.

veeru27 · 7th October 2009, 16:58

The only things not working are the BB e-mail (I use the Gmail app) and BB Messenger (plenty of free IM apps available for BB), without a BIS/BES plan.

You can still use the native Push Email client in blackberry w/o BIS/BES. Do look out for "Shangmail" for Blackberry. It's a chinese push mail service currently free and integrates well with BB Email client.

Jaggu · 8th October 2009, 11:04

Urgent help: Where can i get genuine BB spare parts in Bangalore? OR battery cover for Bold to be specific.

anilkalvani · 8th October 2009, 11:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaggu

Urgent help: Where can i get genuine BB spare parts in Bangalore? OR battery cover for Bold to be specific.

Suggest you order it online from fommy.co.in

... or wait for suggestions from bangalore bhi-ians.

Jaggu · 8th October 2009, 11:56

Need it urgently since person is travelling tomorrow, online order wont work.

quickdraw · 8th October 2009, 12:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaggu

Urgent help: Where can i get genuine BB spare parts in Bangalore? OR battery cover for Bold to be specific.

I think chroma has Case Mate branded back covers for sale, and then there is fommy. Check the classifieds as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by deepakchan

Research in Motion (RIM) and Reliance India Mobile (RIM) have officially launched BB Tour 9630 for Rs.27,990 right in time just for you

Source: Fonearena (dot) com / blog

Overpriced still!

BlackBerry Messenger 5.0 is officially out! Download it from the BB Homepage on your BB.

aZa · 8th October 2009, 12:11

Umm... jaggu try it out at some music world stores, over here few of them stock accessories for Bberry and iphone.

Jaggu · 8th October 2009, 12:15

Thanks guys, where are the BBB's when you need them??!! (BBB = Blr Black Berrieeeeee's)

jgsolo27 · 8th October 2009, 12:24

[quote=anmolbedi;1519141]@Jgsolo27,

Best of luck!! awaiting results

Thanks Anmol

Now I have both BISLite299 and GPRS active on my mobile. Receiving mails as before, but now with full HTML content. But there is a problem, when I try to open a link, I get the following message

"Your device does not currently have any Browser Configuration Service Book Entries. Please contact your service provider to enable the Browser on your device."

Hope someone can help?

shajufx · 8th October 2009, 12:49

Jaggu, try in Sukh sagar mall or National market, these are the only 2 places you get almost everything related to electronics and mobiles, but will never appear in any google searches. I have got many rarest electronics parts and phone stuff from here which I couldnt find anywhere else. Try, you might be lucky.

anmolbedi · 8th October 2009, 13:35

@Jgsolo,

You need to create a service book entry... You may take help from post #1515 by DueLLer, it has the necessary information.

ritayan · 8th October 2009, 14:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by DueLLeR

I got my unlocked BB Curve 8310 last week. Before buying the BB, I was using a Nokia E51 on LoopMobile with a 499/mo GPRS pack. I was sure as heck that I will not activate BIS/BES and pay more for the same thing in a new package!

Cheers!
DueLLeR

Thanks, I am now fully mobile.

Jaggu · 8th October 2009, 14:55

Thanks shaju, i have sent my person to Croma and other mobile stores to check. Will try National market if there is no resolution.

anilkalvani · 8th October 2009, 17:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by quickdraw

BlackBerry Messenger 5.0 is officially out! Download it from the BB Homepage on your BB.

Thanks for that, just downloading now!

7th October 2009, 16:42	#1516
DueLLeR BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Vashi / Navi Mumbai Posts: 214 Thanked: 123 Times	Blackberry without BIS/BES! I got my unlocked BB Curve 8310 last week. Before buying the BB, I was using a Nokia E51 on LoopMobile with a 499/mo GPRS pack. I was sure as heck that I will not activate BIS/BES and pay more for the same thing in a new package! As of today, I'm running my BB to the fullest, including the inbuilt BB browser. The only things not working are the BB e-mail (I use the Gmail app) and BB Messenger (plenty of free IM apps available for BB), without a BIS/BES plan. 1. Installing Opera Mini The first thing I did was enter the APN settings and GPRS came to life. But with the BB Browser asking for service book entries, I could not do much. So, I installed Opera Mini for BB using the Desktop Manager. So far so good. 2. Installing Gmail and Google Maps Next, I tried OtA download of Gmail and Google Maps through Opera Mini as they cannot be downloaded to a computer. Sadly, the Opera Mini's user agent identifies the BB as just "8310." As a result, Google thinks it's an unknown phone for which they don't have an app. By installing a user agent switcher add-on in Firefox, I could create a "dummy" Blackberry user agent and managed to download the .jad files. Next, I created a .alx file and separately downloaded the .jar files into the same folder. Fired up the Desktop Manager and installed the apps. In some situations, the Desktop Manager will not let you install new apps by stating no updates were found. You need another piece of software from Blackberry. Don't remember the name now! 3. Enabling the BB Browser Opera Mini, though very versatile, cannot do many things that the BB Browser can. For example, downloading and installing OtA apps, downloading files, and viewing videos on YouTube through the Media Player. To enable the browser, you need the service book entries, which are pushed to your phone by your provider WHEN you sign up for BIS/BES. What to do? Follow the instructions of a smart Vietnamese (Home (BlackBerry Without BIS)) and viola! The BB Browser is working just fine without BIS/BES. I should have done point 3 first, to make the first two simpler. However, as luck would have it, I found this out last. Cheers! DueLLeR Last edited by DueLLeR : 7th October 2009 at 16:44.
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7th October 2009, 16:58	#1518
veeru27 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Yercaud/Salem/Bangy Posts: 35 Thanked: 71 Times	The only things not working are the BB e-mail (I use the Gmail app) and BB Messenger (plenty of free IM apps available for BB), without a BIS/BES plan. You can still use the native Push Email client in blackberry w/o BIS/BES. Do look out for "Shangmail" for Blackberry. It's a chinese push mail service currently free and integrates well with BB Email client.
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8th October 2009, 11:04	#1519
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,907 Times	Urgent help: Where can i get genuine BB spare parts in Bangalore? OR battery cover for Bold to be specific.
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8th October 2009, 11:56	#1521
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,907 Times	Need it urgently since person is travelling tomorrow, online order wont work.
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8th October 2009, 12:11	#1523
aZa Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Noida / Delhi Posts: 1,595 Thanked: 21 Times View My Garage	Umm... jaggu try it out at some music world stores, over here few of them stock accessories for Bberry and iphone.
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8th October 2009, 12:15	#1524
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,907 Times	Thanks guys, where are the BBB's when you need them??!! (BBB = Blr Black Berrieeeeee's)
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8th October 2009, 12:24	#1525
jgsolo27 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Pondicherry Posts: 71 Thanked: 14 Times	[quote=anmolbedi;1519141]@Jgsolo27, Best of luck!! awaiting results Thanks Anmol Now I have both BISLite299 and GPRS active on my mobile. Receiving mails as before, but now with full HTML content. But there is a problem, when I try to open a link, I get the following message "Your device does not currently have any Browser Configuration Service Book Entries. Please contact your service provider to enable the Browser on your device." Hope someone can help?
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8th October 2009, 12:49	#1526
shajufx Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: BLR & Singapore Posts: 1,806 Thanked: 831 Times View My Garage	Jaggu, try in Sukh sagar mall or National market, these are the only 2 places you get almost everything related to electronics and mobiles, but will never appear in any google searches. I have got many rarest electronics parts and phone stuff from here which I couldnt find anywhere else. Try, you might be lucky. Last edited by shajufx : 8th October 2009 at 12:50.
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8th October 2009, 13:35	#1527
anmolbedi BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Noida Posts: 58 Thanked: 4 Times	@Jgsolo, You need to create a service book entry... You may take help from post #1515 by DueLLer, it has the necessary information.
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8th October 2009, 14:55	#1529
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,907 Times	Thanks shaju, i have sent my person to Croma and other mobile stores to check. Will try National market if there is no resolution.
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