[pgsagar]

Originally Posted by GTO

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The Scorpio has been around for a decade. It still sells 3000 - 4000 units each month.....

You have a point there, GTO. Many, me included, find Scorpio better looking than XUV. If I have to buy either of the two, I will pick Scorp. In fact I'm very eagerly waiting for the new Scorpio. If it looks promising then may be I will consider buying it.

There is a big void in AT SUV range. Ecosport is tiny and petrol and delivery period would take nearly a year ( as boasted by local dealer ). Then next stop, past Scorpio, is Endeavour/Fortuner which cost more than double. Wonder why Tata is not fitting an AT box on Storme.

[MaxTorque]

Looks like Mahindra has chosen a great auto box for XUV 500. This gear box doing duty in a wide range of products from Japanese, Itialian, American, French and Chinese automakers.

[goingelectric]

I agree with GTO and pgsagar. The looks of the XUV does not grow on you after a while. The Scorpio on the other hand has a classic look that seems to grow on you even after all these years, a true testament to design. Again, this is a personal opinion. By the way, I can't wait for the new scorpio (the spy pics and teasers are getting me rather carried away!)

I also agree with psagar's earlier comment that Mahindra should have cornered all facets of the XUV (4WD, AT, etc ...) right from the word go. The novelty factor seems to be fading in the light of other newer entrants like the Duster, EcoSport, etc, all of these at a lower price tag than the XUV. Sourcing could have been one of their concerns but as someone rightly pointed out they always had a BOSCH AT system handy.

Having said all this, I still hope they get the AT out as soon as they can, they will still have a good set of folks wanting to get their hands on it, me included (if the new scorpio AT disappoints!).

[iliketurtles]

Originally Posted by goingelectric

I also agree with psagar's earlier comment that Mahindra should have cornered all facets of the XUV (4WD, AT, etc ...) right from the word go. The novelty factor seems to be fading in the light of other newer entrants like the Duster, EcoSport, etc, all of these at a lower price tag than the XUV.

Mahindra has been hunting for the right AT box for the longest time it would seem, and I remember reading an Autocar article just yesterday that said Aisin wasn't interested in doing business with Mahindra given the volumes they needed. Acquiring Sangyyong was the tipping point, and at that volume Aisin and Mahindra reached a deal for the new gearbox.

If and when the XUV500 comes with an AT, many will line up for it. It's a hot proposition as it is, and the AT gearbox will open them up to a whole new segment of buyers that they might not have had previously. The Duster, Ecosport, et al are all at a lower price point for sure, but the XUV offers tons of features, all-round capabilities and a powerful diesel automatic. that's a novelty the compact SUV's can't match. If anything, I can see an AT XUV500 eating into sales of the sedans in its segment, like the Elantra and Cruze. Interesting times ahead of us as car-buyers.

[GTO]

Originally Posted by pgsagar

You have a point there, GTO. Many, me included, find Scorpio better looking than XUV. If I have to buy either of the two, I will pick Scorp. In fact I'm very eagerly waiting for the new Scorpio. If it looks promising then may be I will consider buying it.

Well, looks are subjective so we'll leave that out of the picture.

Unless you need a proper 4x4 or are constrained by budget, there is absolutely no advantage the Scorpio has over the XUV500. The latter rides better (Scorpio is too bumpy), handles better (Scorpio is too top heavy), has more interior space (Scorpio is too cramped for such a large UV) and is far more contemporary (Scorpio is outdated).

From the innumerable parameters that we evaluate a car on, for a majority of them, the XUV500 blows the Scorpio out of the water.

[goingelectric]

Originally Posted by iliketurtles

Mahindra has been hunting for the right AT box for the longest time it would seem, and I remember reading an Autocar article just yesterday that said Aisin wasn't interested in doing business with Mahindra given the volumes they needed. Acquiring Sangyyong was the tipping point, and at that volume Aisin and Mahindra reached a deal for the new gearbox.

Agree on this. I think I got the Scorpio's AT search from M&M and the XUV's hunt for an AT confused. Thanks for clearing that out.

Originally Posted by iliketurtles

If and when the XUV500 comes with an AT, many will line up for it. It's a hot proposition as it is, and the AT gearbox will open them up to a whole new segment of buyers that they might not have had previously. The Duster, Ecosport, et al are all at a lower price point for sure, but the XUV offers tons of features, all-round capabilities and a powerful diesel automatic. that's a novelty the compact SUV's can't match. If anything, I can see an AT XUV500 eating into sales of the sedans in its segment, like the Elantra and Cruze. Interesting times ahead of us as car-buyers.

Agreed on this too. I assume someone looking at the Elantra or Cruze would be going for badge over utility, I am not sure though! It sure is an interesting time for potential car buyers.

[RishiSuri]

With the Indians now realizing the need of Automatic is must and many people like me had to shelve out more to get a good automatic car not cos we wanted to but knowing the pain of clutch driving in bumper to bumper traffic, it is indeed a good sign of mahindra brining in Automatic in XUV.
the reason they didnt put the Scorpio AT in XUV was due to the gearbox was not refined had issues so why put and impact the competition as said by others take the technology from partners and use it.

I will look forward to 2015 and hoping the price remains within 15-18L it definetly would be a steal.

[Sutripta]

Originally Posted by Vid6639

The only 6 speed gearbox from Aisin that can handle upwards of 300Nm torque from the XUV engine is the TF-80SC. This is the same gearbox found in the Volvo range of cars as well as earlier version of RR Evoque before they moved to 9 speed ZF.

http://www.aisin-aw.co.jp/en/product...eup/index.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AWTF-80_SC

You mean this

Regards
Sutripta

[F150]

Fantastic news, XUV has all the features that I want in my next car except AT.
2015 is the time by when I would be replacing my swift. The gearbox also appears to be a very good one, I can see several cars that use this AT from the picture posted by Sutripta.

Going by the way M&M has been handling its customers, I would love to have XUV AT as my next car.

[volkman10]

Mahindra XUV 500 automatic likely to get more power.

Mahindra is likely to retune the XUV500 motor to produce 30bhp more in automatic guise.

Mahindra XUV500 Automatic is also likely to come with an increase in power to 170bhp, a substantial 30bhp hike from its current output. However, the manual Mahindra XUV500’s power will not be bumped up and has been capped at 140bhp because the manual transmission, in its current form, is not designed for extra power and torque.

http://www.autocarindia.com/auto-new...er-373312.aspx

[F150]

Thee More power the better.
The MT gives somewhere around 11-12 in city and 14 on the highway.
What would be the projected FE of the AT ?

[Vid6639]

Looks like the Automatic XUV has begun testing:

http://www.motorbeam.com/cars/mahind...-spotted-test/

Clues that it is the Automatic. It has Japan written on the back and the letters AW which might be denoting Aisin-AW corp. AW was formerly Aisin Warner.

[pgsagar]

Originally Posted by Vid6639

Looks like the Automatic XUV has begun testing:

http://www.motorbeam.com/cars/mahind...-spotted-test/

Clues that it is the Automatic. It has Japan written on the back and the letters AW which might be denoting Aisin-AW corp. AW was formerly Aisin Warner.

Aisin automatic? Didn't Accord V6 use this gearbox? It's one hell of a quick-shifting box. XUV would rock.

[D4D]

Mahindra is just growing in leaps and bounds. This is one seriously big leap. The first Scorpio automatic was just nonsense. The auto option makes XUV500 a completely rounded product.
People who are buying cars around ~12-15 lakh are looking towards diesel automatics and no one catered to their needs till now. This is just take away sales from the current cars in that price range.
All that I'm asking for is a little bit of better plastics with good fit and finish. Is that too much Mahindra?

[Vid6639]

Originally Posted by pgsagar

Aisin automatic? Didn't Accord V6 use this gearbox? It's one hell of a quick-shifting box. XUV would rock.

Not just accord. Read my earlier post. This particular 6 speed box was used in the earlier Range Rover Evoque and is used right now in most of the Volvo's like S80.