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| ![]() I'm sure everyone knows that MG Motors has been a Chinese company (SAIC) for many years. Given the present escalation of hostilities between India and China and banning of many Chinese goods and services, isn't it possible that MG Motors may have to shut shop in India, leaving the owners of their cars high and dry? |
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BHPian ![]() | ![]() Hi, I saw these advertisements too about it being launched at 28.98lakh INR where the Gloster is being advertised as a ‘AUTONOMOUS L1 CAR’. I have a query; what exactly does Autonomous Level One mean? I could not get much detail online. It would be great if anyone who knows about it can help me. I think there should be a separate forum about ‘Levels of Autonomous Cars’ where someone who knows about this technology can explain in detail. If there is, you may please share the forum link, as I could not find any. I am very keen on learning these technologies of new cars, you see. That being said, I too am anxiously waiting for the Team-BHP review of this car. |
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![]() This picture should help in understanding the different autonomous levels. | |
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However I have these additional questions; 1. MG advertises it as India’s first L1 Autonomous SUV. But Volvo SUVs like XC40, XC60, XC90 have LiDAR and similar tech too. So how does MG call itself ‘First’? Is there some difference in the technologies or is MG’s advert a weasel word sort of thing? 2. Volvo cars also have a thing called Park Assist Pilot, wherein the system takes control of the car and automatically manoeuvres it into the spot. Heck even the Ford Endy has a similar thing. My Question: Do these cars also qualify to be autonomous? If yes, what level? 3. Although this is a topic which is still being researched, what all levels of autonomy are permitted in India? Is a completely self drive car legal? NOTE TO MODS: Please move this post to a suitable thread if you find it off-topic. Apologies in advance for the same. | |
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Volvo XC60, XC90 and S90 are assembled in India at Volvo’s Hosakote Facility near Bengaluru. Source: http://https://www.financialexpress....0-s60/1904848/ | |
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1. Longitudinal intervention - In the form of acceleration and braking 2. Lateral intervention - In the form of steering or differential braking In L1 driving, either of the two can take place but not at the same time. You can have adaptive cruise control, or you can have a blind spot warning but they cannot cross intervene with each other. Or in simple terms, you can have an adaptive cruise control but without steering assistance to follow the lane. And so on. Or the blind spot detection system can give you a visual and audible warning, but cant intervene and prevent you from changing a lane in spite of the warning. Same with the lane departure warning system. It can only warn you of trying to cross a lane. In L2, both interventions can happen at the same time. If you have adaptive cruise control on, it can also help you maintain a certain lane according to how good the road features are. Or if you are trying to make a lane change when there is a vehicle in the blind spot, the system will actually do differential braking to get you back into your lane, same with LDW. The MG according to marketing material has L1, which manufacturers like Volvo got much earlier and Mercedes directly started with L2 in India. I am not sure what sort of a claim MG is making, but at least it will impress customers since not everyone knows about this tech and unless Volvo tries to dispute this claim, they can continue their trumpeting. Since I have been working on these systems all my career, I can tell you there is nothing to boast about an L1 system even if it is for India. The very reason they bring in an L1 system is that its intervention is very limited and they dont have to deal with too much of false positives. In case of the MG, it only offers AEB which of course is useful, but will intervene very late and very hard. For the adaptive cruise control, it can be pretty conservative and would not be a big problem on the highway. The rest are all audio visual interventions in which false positives would not have a big consequences compared to a higher interventio. L2 and above is the bigger deal to handle in a country like India. Thats why if I recall right, Volvo did roll back some of its ADAS offering in India due to the same reason. Curious to see how MG is going to fare here. Last edited by audioholic : 19th November 2020 at 19:36. | |
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| ![]() Here is a night review by the one of the owners of Gloster. Interior does seem much more special than the Utilatarian Toyota or Ford's now seemingly old interiors. Headlights performance too seems pretty good. Last edited by 07CR : 20th November 2020 at 14:58. |
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| ![]() This is a brief video on GLOSTER's off-roading capabilities. The channel belongs to a fellow BHPian AlphaPetrolhead Mod Note: Our MG Gloster Review has been taken live at this link. Please continue the discussion over on the new thread. Thanks! Last edited by Aditya : 24th November 2020 at 17:09. Reason: Adding link to review |
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