Mitsubishi Outlander coming. EDIT : Now Launched, Specs on Pg 6!

hondadude · 1st July 2007, 14:55

If they price it along CRV and X-trail, it is going to be another flopshow. In that segment, only CRV has been successful. I wouldn't pay 25L for a crossover SUV from Mitsubishi when I can get a CRV for 23L. If Mitsubishi is serious about Indian market, Outlander should be sold below 20L (on road price).

Sahil · 14th July 2007, 11:50

Any updates more updates on this? Is it worth the wait or is the new CR-V a better option?
I wonder if at all it will launch this year beacuse Mitsubishi will be killing their own 2.8L Pajero which sports around the same price tag. Logically the outlander will be launched once the old gen Pajero is discontinued.

dadu · 14th July 2007, 12:38

pricing makes an important factor for success or failure of any new launches, for Suv's anything beyond 15L becomes 'niche' and the numbers dont add-up for success and then these importers/ manufacturers feel that they are not selling enough to continue.

devarshi84 · 14th July 2007, 12:46

@Saahil: Outlander wont kill the Pajero. Firstly the price of the pajero will be dropped to around 16. Secondly Outlander will be priced above 20. How do I know, you ask? well Mitsubishi has planned to be play as a niche market player.

And which is better between the CR-V and Outlander? Check out this links.

http://www.canadiandriver.com/ctc/blog/?p=141

"In terms of ride feel and comfort: the Outlander drives very much like a typical sedan. When compared to its competition, I would liken the Outlander to the Honda CR-V; if you are in the market for an SUV/CUV that drives very much like a car, the Outlander should be very near the top of your list."

cars.com: New SUVs | Faceoff: Compact SUV

Outlander vs. Cr-V vs. RAV4

Torque-ative · 14th July 2007, 13:17

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Originally Posted by fb1

They should launch evo here!!

Well,.. read in the times a few days back that they are considering The Evo , but at close to 50 lacs

. Must be nuts.

The article mentioned that this would be a Boxter competetor.
I dont know man,..may be 15 or even 20 lacs but 50 for an evo !!!
Dont think they'll get many takers. Its more like a suicide call !

hondadude · 14th July 2007, 15:06

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Originally Posted by devarshi84

@Saahil: Outlander wont kill the Pajero. Firstly the price of the pajero will be dropped to around 16. Secondly Outlander will be priced above 20. How do I know, you ask? well Mitsubishi has planned to be play as a niche market player.

Sorry it still doesn't explain how you believe that the Pajero price will be dropped to around 16L.

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And which is better between the CR-V and Outlander? Check out this links.
Outlander vs. Cr-V vs. RAV4

Launching a good product is not enough. If that was the case, Palio would be one of the most successful cars. Until Mitsubishi gets their act together and show commitment to Indian market, its not gonna fly.

Vid6639 · 14th July 2007, 15:09

If they drop the pajero's price and bring the outlaner's prive around the CR-V's, they will lose both the pajero customers as well as the outlander customers.

Pajero resale will drop further and it will go the cedia way. Then people wont be ready to pay 22L for a mitsubishi SUV being sold by HM.

hondadude · 14th July 2007, 15:13

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Originally Posted by vid6639

If they drop the pajero's price and bring the outlaner's prive around the CR-V's, they will lose both the pajero customers as well as the outlander customers.

I totally agree. Besides, there is no reason for them to drop Pajero prices. Both of them are so different from each other, there isn't much overlap in the target segment other than the price. Having two models in the same price range is not necessarily a bad thing.

HSV · 14th July 2007, 15:20

In Australia, I remember the Outlander, CRV, Rav4, and Vitara were in one segment (below the Pajero and Prado), and the Pajero and Prado in another segment above them.

So it doesnt make sense placing the Outlander above Pajero in India!

ranc · 14th July 2007, 15:46

HSV

Which pajero are we talking about the one which is sold internationally or the one which is sold in India. The one in India is a 98 model with a stupid 2.8 L engine which cant go beyond 150 kmph. So the Indian Pajero has no class and it should be sold well below the outlander.

Vid6639 · 14th July 2007, 16:11

ranc, we are talking about the indian pajero that is 98 model. the one sold abroad is renamed as the montero here.

HSV, you are talking about the Latest gen pajero which is sold as the montero here. The OTR price is approx 38L, which will be well above the outlander.

vishaldev · 14th July 2007, 17:45

I could not wait any longer and booked the Honda CRV- with the manual transmission . with due respect to Mitsubishi , I personally feel that the new honda CRV is relatively better than the Outlander . But i really appreciate Mitsubishi for bringing the Diesel version and i don't understand Honda's Logic of not bringing Diesels to India . According to Honda , most of the other manufacturers must be out of their mind to have Diesels in their gamut.

devarshi84 · 14th July 2007, 19:45

@Vid: you are also talking about the latest Outlander at the same time. Its competing with RAv, CR-V and x-trail everywhere. Why do you think will mitsubishi let the old man Pajero do the fighting? what price would you tag for the OUtlander? If its more, it wont sell and if its less it will be stupid to price it cheaper than pajero2.8. And its also stupid to price both at the same price.

Pajero is old and it makes sense reducing the price. Every car goes through this cycle. Pajero 2.8 wont be facing anything new.

sam_78 · 14th July 2007, 22:16

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Originally Posted by Torque-ative

Well,.. read in the times a few days back that they are considering The Evo , but at close to 50 lacs

. Must be nuts.

50 lacs for an Evo

. R u sure or waas it 15 lacs ?

Is Mitsubishi coming up with a Diesel Outlander ?

originalamit · 18th March 2008, 20:10

Any news on when the outlander will be launched in india?

1st July 2007, 14:55	#16
hondadude Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,044 Thanked: 69 Times	If they price it along CRV and X-trail, it is going to be another flopshow. In that segment, only CRV has been successful. I wouldn't pay 25L for a crossover SUV from Mitsubishi when I can get a CRV for 23L. If Mitsubishi is serious about Indian market, Outlander should be sold below 20L (on road price).
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Sahil Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 6,292 Thanked: 7,607 Times	Any updates more updates on this? Is it worth the wait or is the new CR-V a better option? I wonder if at all it will launch this year beacuse Mitsubishi will be killing their own 2.8L Pajero which sports around the same price tag. Logically the outlander will be launched once the old gen Pajero is discontinued.
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dadu Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 3,803 Thanked: 462 Times View My Garage	pricing makes an important factor for success or failure of any new launches, for Suv's anything beyond 15L becomes 'niche' and the numbers dont add-up for success and then these importers/ manufacturers feel that they are not selling enough to continue.
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devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 211 Times View My Garage	@Saahil: Outlander wont kill the Pajero. Firstly the price of the pajero will be dropped to around 16. Secondly Outlander will be priced above 20. How do I know, you ask? well Mitsubishi has planned to be play as a niche market player. And which is better between the CR-V and Outlander? Check out this links. http://www.canadiandriver.com/ctc/blog/?p=141 "In terms of ride feel and comfort: the Outlander drives very much like a typical sedan. When compared to its competition, I would liken the Outlander to the Honda CR-V; if you are in the market for an SUV/CUV that drives very much like a car, the Outlander should be very near the top of your list." cars.com: New SUVs \| Faceoff: Compact SUV Outlander vs. Cr-V vs. RAV4
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Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,730 Thanked: 43,483 Times View My Garage	If they drop the pajero's price and bring the outlaner's prive around the CR-V's, they will lose both the pajero customers as well as the outlander customers. Pajero resale will drop further and it will go the cedia way. Then people wont be ready to pay 22L for a mitsubishi SUV being sold by HM.
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HSV BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 327 Thanked: Once	In Australia, I remember the Outlander, CRV, Rav4, and Vitara were in one segment (below the Pajero and Prado), and the Pajero and Prado in another segment above them. So it doesnt make sense placing the Outlander above Pajero in India!
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ranc BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Lost somewhere on the Leh Manali hway Posts: 516 Thanked: 14 Times	HSV Which pajero are we talking about the one which is sold internationally or the one which is sold in India. The one in India is a 98 model with a stupid 2.8 L engine which cant go beyond 150 kmph. So the Indian Pajero has no class and it should be sold well below the outlander.
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Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,730 Thanked: 43,483 Times View My Garage	ranc, we are talking about the indian pajero that is 98 model. the one sold abroad is renamed as the montero here. HSV, you are talking about the Latest gen pajero which is sold as the montero here. The OTR price is approx 38L, which will be well above the outlander.
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vishaldev Newbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Chennai\Chicago Posts: 18 Thanked: 0 Times	I could not wait any longer and booked the Honda CRV- with the manual transmission . with due respect to Mitsubishi , I personally feel that the new honda CRV is relatively better than the Outlander . But i really appreciate Mitsubishi for bringing the Diesel version and i don't understand Honda's Logic of not bringing Diesels to India . According to Honda , most of the other manufacturers must be out of their mind to have Diesels in their gamut.
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devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 211 Times View My Garage	@Vid: you are also talking about the latest Outlander at the same time. Its competing with RAv, CR-V and x-trail everywhere. Why do you think will mitsubishi let the old man Pajero do the fighting? what price would you tag for the OUtlander? If its more, it wont sell and if its less it will be stupid to price it cheaper than pajero2.8. And its also stupid to price both at the same price. Pajero is old and it makes sense reducing the price. Every car goes through this cycle. Pajero 2.8 wont be facing anything new. Last edited by devarshi84 : 14th July 2007 at 19:47.
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originalamit BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 82 Thanked: 33 Times	Any news on when the outlander will be launched in india?
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