Are Fiat Cars over-rated?

[rahulmd]

Can someone define "over rated" or "over hyped"?? :-) (i have not exceeded the smiley per post limit)

[typeOnegative]

Originally Posted by Deeps

Maybe i have misunderstood. But do you mean to say that the Accent (doesn't matter which one) has 3 horses more than a Petra???

The Accent in its Viva trim has 102 BHP to the Petra's 100. So it is 2 horses more. Plus it has a weight advantage too ... I am not too sure about the figures though.

[islero]

But I really think this is rather pointless, from what I've heard, throttle response is much much better in Petra, the engine feels more eager to launch forward than the comparitively coarse egnine in the Viva.
In the end, its driving pleasure that matters, isnt it?

[typeOnegative]

Originally Posted by islero

But I really think this is rather pointless, from what I've heard, throttle response is much much better in Petra, the engine feels more eager to launch forward than the comparitively coarse egnine in the Viva.
In the end, its driving pleasure that matters, isnt it?

You are right. It does. No beating that engine.

[Shan2nu]

Guys, don't get fooled by the 102bhp claimed for the Accent. It maybe producing 102bhp at the crank but, by the time that power reaches the wheels i'm sure it must be down by atleats 10+ bhp for if you look at the accelelration figures, it performs slightly better than a 77bhp car which is equally heavy.

The Petra no doubt has much better performance (relatively that is). Having a powerful engine is one thing but, being able to transfer that to the wheels without much loss is another and this is where the Accent loses out.

Shan2nu

[typeOnegative]

Originally Posted by Shan2nu

Guys, don't get fooled by the 102bhp claimed for the Accent. It maybe producing 102bhp at the crank but, ....
The Petra no doubt has much better performance (relatively that is). Having a powerful engine is one thing but, being able to transfer that to the wheels without much loss is another and this is where the Accent loses out.

Shan2nu

Hmmm. That is an interesting observation. Do you have the acceleration figures for the Petra btw?

[v_s_natarajan]

i have driven petra continuously at 150kmph on bangaloe chennai road and have pushed it upto 170
the engine somehow assumes a raspy note after 100kmph and after that it is nirvana

[lamborghini]

Here are the figures from ACI
Petra - 1100kg
0 - 60 = 4.83s
0 - 100 = 11.82s
top speed = 189kmph
torque = 14 kgm

Accent 1.6 - 1038kg
0 - 60 = 5.2s
0 - 100 = 12.34s
top speed = 185
torque = 14.4 kgm

In comparision -
corsa 1.6 - 1040kg
0 - 60 = 4.89s
0 - 100 = 12.2s
top speed = 170kmph
torque = 12.2 kgm


And this car produces 92BHP and is faster in the performances dashes as compared to hyundai 103 BHP car.
Looks like hyundai has lied in its torque figures too.

[Shan2nu]

Hmmm. That is an interesting observation. Do you have the acceleration figures for the Petra btw?

Do i have accelelration figures? If not me, then who? LOL

Anyway here they are
0-100
Petra 1.6 - 100 bhp - 1120kgs - 13.1 secs
Accent 1.6 - 102 bhp - 1038kgs - 13.7 secs

Top Speed
Petra 1.6 - 100 bhp - 1120kgs - 176kmph
Accent 1.6 - 102 bhp - 1038kgs - 170kmph

Shan2nu

[typeOnegative]

Thanks Lambo. I actually did not expect a Corsa to out-drag the Accent. That is strange. Some problem with the Accent's transmission?

[typeOnegative]

Originally Posted by v_s_natarajan

i have driven petra continuously at 150kmph on bangaloe chennai road and have pushed it upto 170
the engine somehow assumes a raspy note after 100kmph and after that it is nirvana

Now I cannot wait.

[Shan2nu]

Guys, please don't post ACI figures here. It hurts to even look at them.

Shan2nu

[Steeroid]

For those who wonder about the Accent's acceleration figures - it has a throttle lag. Takes about .5 seconds for it to respond...

However, in-gear acceleration is excellent and is better than most other cars. The Accent will NOT beat any of the other cars in 0-60 figures - its on the highway that it comes to its own - 60 kmph and above. Compare the roll-on figures for all cars in the class and you'll find that its true.

However, that is not the point here - lets try and get back to the topic, shall we? This topic is not about engines - its about cars, Fiat in particular.

For Rahulmd:

Hype (Transitive Verb) =

1. Put On, Deceive
2. Promote or publicize extravagantly

Hype (Noun) =

PUBLICITY; especially promotional publicity of an extravagant or contrived kind



Cheers

Steer

[typeOnegative]

Thanks to you too Shan2nu. Missed out your post. Where did you get those figures from?

[typeOnegative]

Originally Posted by Shan2nu

Overdrive

Shan2nu

Thanks once again. And this is the Accent 1.6 as in 'not the Viva'?