Honda Accord V6 - 271 BHP!! EDIT : Now Launched

Yeldo · 12th March 2009, 21:13

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Originally Posted by Revvmaster

Well, I think I know why Honda have priced the car way out of their league.

As it so happens, the yen has been getting stronger for a while. The same also holds true for the dollar. Whichever way the car enters India (whether parts or engine), Honda are having to pay a heavier amount due to exchange fluctuation.

I had a talk with a senior Honda official a while back and he was categorical when he said that the CR-V looks a prime contender for a price revision. So I asked, by how much - another 50-75 k? He turned around and stunned me by saying THIRTY PER CENT.
A quick back of the book calculation told me the 2.4 CR-V would go as high as Rs 30 lakh. I then looked back at him and asked, "Are you serious?" He said yes.

Well there's a manufacturer perspective for you. But I think, if Honda knew that they can't resolve the currency fluctuation issue, they should have waited a little longer before they launched the 3.5 V6. Just my two cents.

OK, then ask them why a fully imported CRV should cost only around 23.4 lacs with all the penal duties, etc, (Honda's revised prices applicable from 1st April) where in Japan, it costs around 15 lacs. Then ask them about the Japan price of a Honda Inspire which is locally assembled here. In Japan, it goes for around 20-22 lacs for the 3.5V6. So there seems to be no logic. 23 lacs for a CBU costing 15 lacs back home, 25 lacs for a locally assembled one costing 20 lacs back home! I fail to see the rationale, the logic. The real reason might be this: Skoda priced it 4 cylinder Superb at 19L, so they might price their rumored V6 in the vicinity of 25L. The 4 cylinder Accord AT is around 18L with the impending revision.

And with the CRV, the Outlander and the Captiva AT now go at around 20L ex- showroom, so Honda can make itself entitled to a premium, eh?

And to compare prices, an Accord 3.5V6 sells in tax- free Labuan at 19L, and a 2.0L4WDAT CRV at 15L.

ajmat · 12th March 2009, 21:22

Have skoda and honda swapped their marketing positioning executives ?

Gagan.js · 12th March 2009, 22:02

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Originally Posted by ajmat

Have skoda and honda swapped their marketing positioning executives ?

Looks like it

Although it's a great car and all, honda are falling back to its premium brand image with these insane prices.
There is no way one can justify the 7L price increase, just look at the interiors and wonder where the money is going..

rubin2006 · 12th March 2009, 22:09

There are a very Few Car makers which really come out with sensible pricing , i can only think of may be 3-4 . Ie Maruti , Fiat Hyundai Tata also , Rest all are tying to squeeze even the last penny out of Indian car buyer ( like just in case of people being to happy with a scoda superb dont worry you will see them paying though there nose once It come to spares and services , and finally will be a last standing truth buy superb at 20 lacks sell it for 6 lacks after 3 years ) [ if in doubt kindly refer to old superb owners ] Now take for instance Toyota Camry which Might Be a CBU but still sells some numbers , Now why on earth If Toyota sells it for 23 24 25 depending upon the state you re in That Honda will not sell Accord V6 for 25 lacks and for the less privileged you have a 2.4 V Tech accord , Chor Chor mosere Bhai .

I am a firm believer Just like Corruption begins at the Top in our country And follows Down the ladder same is the case with Car prices For instance Look at Mercedes Benz Even when the rupee was rising against the dollar They we jacking the prices up with smaller Engines (Day light Robbery cost of Spares and service ) and the Price of c class one day went above 30 lacks from may be 20 21 lacks where it started , then came BMW with little more Features Than C Class in 3 series But same Price but With small engines in 3 series and lacking equipments ( It was regrettable not to have I drive and sunroof on car like 320 i and 320 D at the first place , Then add High line Man When some one is Paying 30 lacks the line cannot go any higher ) But its only because of AUDI BMW AND MERC that we in india are fortunate to get ACCORD SUPERB PASSAT and CAMRY in Range OF 20 lacks Other wise instead of 3 series or a C class We would be getting ACCORD FOR 30 lacks and civic for 18 lacks may be like SRI lanka or any South American Communist Country
SO in conclusion Honda is justified TO take us for A ride with a 7-8 lacks price Hike as every one else is doing imagine if they sell one V6 in 10 -15 cars what profits will they make and the samurais are sure that others will buy 2.4 , I never Liked Fiat and dont have the Courage to Buy there car but After Lineas Pricing I can say that is a example of a fair priced Car

amit · 12th March 2009, 23:07

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7.7 lakhs more! What the hell for? Terrible pricing and woefully disappointed.

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What the hell were they thinking.

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What a disappointment!

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Sad to see another good car going to the dogs because of stupid pricing.

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Whoever is pricing Honda's uniquely positioned models is doing a terribly job.

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oh boy. now i dont think this will be our next car. 7 lacs for what?

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Have skoda and honda swapped their marketing positioning executives ?

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honda are falling back to its premium brand image with these insane prices.

GTO, sideways, quicksilver, ajmat, iraghava, akshay1234 and others, please read the quote below

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If a car costs 6L and if you are willing pay only 5L, then you are not the customer for that car. But you can always say that 6L car is overpriced

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If you don't want to pay, just move on - buy what you want to buy. No need to say that grapes are sour.

The above posts are from a Honda owner so they make perfect sense and are right. After all, only enlightened people and persons having a certain level of IQ (which is fixed by Honda) are allowed to buy Honda products.

I feel it's a fantastic car for a great price. Total VFM and paisa vasool. How can Honda be wrong?

Dippy · 12th March 2009, 23:23

Big big disappointment. I was expecting the V6 to be a couple of lakhs above the 2.4 but this is ouright ridiculous. 25+ big ones for an Accord. No sunroof no xenons etc. Honda completely lost it a few days back when they raised their prices. The most shocking was the CRV. No one will buy that for 30 lakhs . The Captiva guys at GM must be laughing all the way. The Captiva has been a good car all along and its diesel plus uit offers you AWD and AT now. I see Captiva sales rising now. If you dont want the Captiva get the Outlander, a brilliant car. The CRV is doomed and how. I dont want to even get to the V6.

Honda better change what they are smoking and soon. I see the V6 bombing even before it sells. They will for killer prices in the used market but that is if they sell as new in the first place. If this way Honda pricing is now, I dont have any hope for the Jazz either.

ImmortalZ · 12th March 2009, 23:27

Exactly right amit. The best option is of course, Skoda, with its exemplary service backup, friendly and honest dealers, cheap as chips spares and ultimate Euro reliability which will serve you for eons to come.

srishiva · 12th March 2009, 23:37

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Originally Posted by amit

GTO, sideways, quicksilver, ajmat, iraghava, akshay1234 and others, please read the quote below

The above posts are from a Honda owner so they make perfect sense and are right. After all, only enlightened people and persons having a certain level of IQ (which is fixed by Honda) are allowed to buy Honda products.

I feel it's a fantastic car for a great price. Total VFM and paisa vasool. How can Honda be wrong?

They have priced it expensive. Stick to the point. You don't have to bring someone else's name into this thread when the person has not said anything of that sort (enlightened people? IQ?).

Torqueguru · 12th March 2009, 23:43

The new Accord and the CRV are extremely overpriced, They are good cars, but defenitely not for that price range!

jkdas · 12th March 2009, 23:52

Guys who bought the old Honda City VTEC, the old CRV, the old Accord 3.0 are lucky in many ways. I bet these guys would be beaming now.

Interesting part is that they didnt detune it.

Edit: cant they have a decent website atleast!

Invinsible · 13th March 2009, 00:01

I guess the honda is smoking on big time.
That's the most ridiculous pricing or rather worst pricing on any car for year 2009.
The only car that makes sense to me now is Skoda Surperb. With that brillant 1.8TSI engine and that additional 6Lakhs or so saved over Accord V6 i could beef up the Superb to get 250bhp and remaining money used for fuelling and maintenance.
What do I get well a solid build car, great safety gizmos, EDL (electronic differential lock) system, big legroom comfort, loaded with features, brillant AFS lightening (bi-xenon) system, superb performance and much more.

iraghava · 13th March 2009, 00:11

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Originally Posted by amit

The above posts are from a Honda owner so they make perfect sense and are right. After all, only enlightened people and persons having a certain level of IQ (which is fixed by Honda) are allowed to buy Honda products.

I feel it's a fantastic car for a great price. Total VFM and paisa vasool. How can Honda be wrong?

Amit, I know a few fan boys are pissing you off but please don't generalise this for all Honda owners. If one owner is a dimwit, doesn't mean the rest of us have to be too.

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Guys who bought the old Honda City VTEC, the old CRV, the old Accord 3.0 are lucky in many ways. I bet these guys would be beaming now.

Looking at the pricing I am both smiling & frowning. Smiling because compared to this I paid acceptable money for Dhanno & frowning to see Honda going to the dogs as far as pricing is concerned.

aerohit · 13th March 2009, 00:15

Stick to 4cyl

6cyl for a Front Wheel Drive for this price is not cool

Cyrus43 · 13th March 2009, 00:32

Can anyone put up a picture of the car please. The V6 has always had amazing wheels. I wanna see what they hae given this time.

sammyboy · 13th March 2009, 01:30

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Can anyone put up a picture of the car please. The V6 has always had amazing wheels. I wanna see what they hae given this time.

Cyrus check the review and pics here http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...v6-driven.html

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12th March 2009, 22:09	#139
rubin2006 BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: delhi/calgary Posts: 286 Thanked: Once	There are a very Few Car makers which really come out with sensible pricing , i can only think of may be 3-4 . Ie Maruti , Fiat Hyundai Tata also , Rest all are tying to squeeze even the last penny out of Indian car buyer ( like just in case of people being to happy with a scoda superb dont worry you will see them paying though there nose once It come to spares and services , and finally will be a last standing truth buy superb at 20 lacks sell it for 6 lacks after 3 years ) [ if in doubt kindly refer to old superb owners ] Now take for instance Toyota Camry which Might Be a CBU but still sells some numbers , Now why on earth If Toyota sells it for 23 24 25 depending upon the state you re in That Honda will not sell Accord V6 for 25 lacks and for the less privileged you have a 2.4 V Tech accord , Chor Chor mosere Bhai . I am a firm believer Just like Corruption begins at the Top in our country And follows Down the ladder same is the case with Car prices For instance Look at Mercedes Benz Even when the rupee was rising against the dollar They we jacking the prices up with smaller Engines (Day light Robbery cost of Spares and service ) and the Price of c class one day went above 30 lacks from may be 20 21 lacks where it started , then came BMW with little more Features Than C Class in 3 series But same Price but With small engines in 3 series and lacking equipments ( It was regrettable not to have I drive and sunroof on car like 320 i and 320 D at the first place , Then add High line Man When some one is Paying 30 lacks the line cannot go any higher ) But its only because of AUDI BMW AND MERC that we in india are fortunate to get ACCORD SUPERB PASSAT and CAMRY in Range OF 20 lacks Other wise instead of 3 series or a C class We would be getting ACCORD FOR 30 lacks and civic for 18 lacks may be like SRI lanka or any South American Communist Country SO in conclusion Honda is justified TO take us for A ride with a 7-8 lacks price Hike as every one else is doing imagine if they sell one V6 in 10 -15 cars what profits will they make and the samurais are sure that others will buy 2.4 , I never Liked Fiat and dont have the Courage to Buy there car but After Lineas Pricing I can say that is a example of a fair priced Car
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12th March 2009, 23:23	#141
Dippy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 7,561 Thanked: 2,469 Times	Big big disappointment. I was expecting the V6 to be a couple of lakhs above the 2.4 but this is ouright ridiculous. 25+ big ones for an Accord. No sunroof no xenons etc. Honda completely lost it a few days back when they raised their prices. The most shocking was the CRV. No one will buy that for 30 lakhs . The Captiva guys at GM must be laughing all the way. The Captiva has been a good car all along and its diesel plus uit offers you AWD and AT now. I see Captiva sales rising now. If you dont want the Captiva get the Outlander, a brilliant car. The CRV is doomed and how. I dont want to even get to the V6. Honda better change what they are smoking and soon. I see the V6 bombing even before it sells. They will for killer prices in the used market but that is if they sell as new in the first place. If this way Honda pricing is now, I dont have any hope for the Jazz either. Last edited by Dippy : 12th March 2009 at 23:25.
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12th March 2009, 23:27	#142
ImmortalZ Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 2,179 Thanked: 488 Times View My Garage	Exactly right amit. The best option is of course, Skoda, with its exemplary service backup, friendly and honest dealers, cheap as chips spares and ultimate Euro reliability which will serve you for eons to come.
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12th March 2009, 23:43	#144
Torqueguru BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Seattle Posts: 277 Thanked: 165 Times View My Garage	The new Accord and the CRV are extremely overpriced, They are good cars, but defenitely not for that price range!
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12th March 2009, 23:52	#145
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	Guys who bought the old Honda City VTEC, the old CRV, the old Accord 3.0 are lucky in many ways. I bet these guys would be beaming now. Interesting part is that they didnt detune it. Edit: cant they have a decent website atleast! Last edited by jkdas : 12th March 2009 at 23:54.
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13th March 2009, 00:01	#146
Invinsible Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,257 Thanked: 62 Times	I guess the honda is smoking on big time. That's the most ridiculous pricing or rather worst pricing on any car for year 2009. The only car that makes sense to me now is Skoda Surperb. With that brillant 1.8TSI engine and that additional 6Lakhs or so saved over Accord V6 i could beef up the Superb to get 250bhp and remaining money used for fuelling and maintenance. What do I get well a solid build car, great safety gizmos, EDL (electronic differential lock) system, big legroom comfort, loaded with features, brillant AFS lightening (bi-xenon) system, superb performance and much more. Last edited by Invinsible : 13th March 2009 at 00:10.
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13th March 2009, 00:15	#148
aerohit BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: India Posts: 978 Thanked: 981 Times	Stick to 4cyl 6cyl for a Front Wheel Drive for this price is not cool
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13th March 2009, 00:32	#149
Cyrus43 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London Posts: 5,019 Thanked: 221 Times View My Garage	Can anyone put up a picture of the car please. The V6 has always had amazing wheels. I wanna see what they hae given this time.
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