Petra 1.6 ELX vs Baleno LXi

ritik123 · 20th July 2005, 19:50

[quote=merve_extreme]Even the 1.6GTX feels rock steady at 160+,so it is the same for the petra(its even heavier).

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Sure why not. So whats gonna be next?...Scorpio is more stable than Petra...surely Scorpio is heavier than Petra...or r u gonna debate that too??

greatDrive · 20th July 2005, 20:08

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Originally Posted by ritik123

Sure why not. So whats gonna be next?...Scorpio is more stable than Petra...surely Scorpio is heavier than Petra...or r u gonna debate that too??

Ritik why are you taking it personally .. its only peoples view and you can't change them so easily. Scorpio is altogether a different vechile.

and do want to debate Scorpio with Honda CRV or PRADO... I think you wont. right?

turbo_lover · 20th July 2005, 20:15

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Originally Posted by ritik123

Scorpio is more stable than Petra...surely Scorpio is heavier than Petra...or r u gonna debate that too??

you wahhh ??? you got to be kidding me !!!
so what if its heavy ???
..stability of the car depends on it suspension setup ..and Scorpio is a very softly sprung car ...sorry to disappoint your brother , but scorpio is not stable at all ...and no way you can compare it with a petra ..which has far superior stability ...there is no comparision ..

compare the scorpio in its own segment..see of that goes buddy ..

turbo_lover · 20th July 2005, 20:24

i vote for petra ..because all in all its a great car ..
great fit and finish....better build quality ..refined engine ..and with all due respect to the Baleno lovers/owners ,i am sick of Suzuki !

aseem · 20th July 2005, 21:10

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Originally Posted by shuvc

I thought so too ..

May I emphasise again, that just this once, lets keep A.S.S out of the picture. That way we can focus on the merits/demerits of the cars.

Except FE, and ASS, you must include resale and high speed performance.

Apart from things mentioned above, its Petra all the way!!!!

However, those things mentioned above do carry a lot of value.

normally_crazy · 20th July 2005, 22:34

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Originally Posted by ritik123

Sure why not. So whats gonna be next?...Scorpio is more stable than Petra...surely Scorpio is heavier than Petra...or r u gonna debate that too??

- so u think the baleno is more stable than a petra ??

Stratos · 20th July 2005, 22:36

Guyz... stick to the Suzuki Baleno or the Fiat Petra please.

merve_extreme · 20th July 2005, 23:18

[quote=ritik123]

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Originally Posted by merve_extreme

Even the 1.6GTX feels rock steady at 160+,so it is the same for the petra(its even heavier).

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Sure why not. So whats gonna be next?...Scorpio is more stable than Petra...surely Scorpio is heavier than Petra...or r u gonna debate that too??

Hello.First u dont understand the point.The GTX with its suspension setup is already very stable(dont debate it i have driven mine past 160) and the Petra with a similar setup will be more or less equally stable.it is more softly sprung than the GTX but due to higher weight it will hold it driection and have similar stability.the baleno in first place is a softly sprung vehicle for good ride,it has skinny tyres,it has less weight(it doesn't have areodynamic downforce) so it will never be as stable as a petra or even a swift for that matter.

As for Scorpio,let me tell u ,a SUV has higher center of gravity(COG) due to its height and hence it is never going to be as stable as a saloon,for example a lighter weight sports car(say a 1200kg ferrari) will be far more stable at higher speeds than a 2ton Ford or Toyota saloon as the ferrari will use aerodynamics to get higher downfore and higher stability.the closer to the ground it is more stable it will be.

merve_extreme · 20th July 2005, 23:32

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Originally Posted by Samurai

Baleno is a C+ segment car? Where did you get that?

If u know some history then u will surely remember the position of the Baleno 2-3 years ago.Baleno when launched was a rival to the OHC.its was priced likewise.it did not sell.maruti cut the tag and bought it closer c-segment cars like the Corsa,Siena,Ikon.........

But now if u think OHC was a c-segment car(the NHC is) i cannot help it.the OHC was always above the c-segment cars like the lancer is today.

Samurai · 20th July 2005, 23:49

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Originally Posted by normally_crazy

Driving a petra in the city is as easy or good or bad as driving a baleno !
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ac of the palio is in any way inferior to that of the baleno...

This discussion is no more based on facts, so I'll rest my case. This is just turning into a pissing contest.

merve_extreme · 20th July 2005, 23:52

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Originally Posted by Samurai

This discussion is no more based on facts, so I'll rest my case. This is just turning into a pissing contest.

Please enlighten us on what the facts are?

Samurai · 21st July 2005, 00:10

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Originally Posted by merve_extreme

Please enlighten us on what the facts are?

If you had looked at #40, you could have guessed to what I was referring. If you still want to hear it, here goes:

Petra is a better highway car than Baleno, and Baleno is a better city car than Petra.

Baleno A/C is superior to Petra. http://www.indiacar.com/infobank/aircontest2.htm

I was replying to message #25 which was denying that.

lamborghini · 21st July 2005, 00:19

Firstly,
According to ACI, the Petra has a top speed of 189 kmph.
So even if the Baleno drives past 160 kmph, it will have tough luck catching up with the Petra.
Secondly,
The petra is more rock steady then ALL its competitiors.
Even the Lancer guy told me that it was more stabiler then the Lancer.
But the thing is,
as far as products go, the Petra is better and it is not all that hard to drive it in the city either.
Driving the Petra in the city is easier then driving a Baleno on the highway at speeds in excess of 120 kmph.

ported_head · 21st July 2005, 00:27

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Originally Posted by lamborghini

Driving the Petra in the city is easier then driving a Baleno on the highway at speeds in excess of 120 kmph.

Whhaaaaat! You do realise that you are comparing two ends of the spectrum, don't you? Why would you say that? I don't think Samurai or Iceman have cribbed about Baleno being difficult to drive on highways, or the numerous other owners on the board. Have been in both the above situations you are talking about? Aren't you still underage?

I don't think Samurai would want to go at it anymore. Now, lets just wait for Iceman to hit the thread.

lamborghini · 21st July 2005, 00:51

So what does underage have to do with driving.
90% + of the members drove when they were underage.
Also i have read somewhere that Baleno owners are complaining about the lifting at high speeds.
Correct me if i am wrong.
And yes I have experienced both inside the cabin when the driver was doing 140 kmph in the baleno and 170 in the Palio 1.6 and 180 in a Siena.

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20th July 2005, 19:50	#31
ritik123 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United States Posts: 123 Thanked: 4 Times	[quote=merve_extreme]Even the 1.6GTX feels rock steady at 160+,so it is the same for the petra(its even heavier). .[/QUOTE Sure why not. So whats gonna be next?...Scorpio is more stable than Petra...surely Scorpio is heavier than Petra...or r u gonna debate that too??
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20th July 2005, 20:24	#34
turbo_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,377 Thanked: 9 Times	i vote for petra ..because all in all its a great car .. great fit and finish....better build quality ..refined engine ..and with all due respect to the Baleno lovers/owners ,i am sick of Suzuki !
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20th July 2005, 22:36	#37
Stratos Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,609 Thanked: 1,449 Times View My Garage	Guyz... stick to the Suzuki Baleno or the Fiat Petra please.
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21st July 2005, 00:19	#43
lamborghini Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 6,113 Thanked: 5,761 Times View My Garage	Firstly, According to ACI, the Petra has a top speed of 189 kmph. So even if the Baleno drives past 160 kmph, it will have tough luck catching up with the Petra. Secondly, The petra is more rock steady then ALL its competitiors. Even the Lancer guy told me that it was more stabiler then the Lancer. But the thing is, as far as products go, the Petra is better and it is not all that hard to drive it in the city either. Driving the Petra in the city is easier then driving a Baleno on the highway at speeds in excess of 120 kmph.
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21st July 2005, 00:51	#45
lamborghini Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 6,113 Thanked: 5,761 Times View My Garage	So what does underage have to do with driving. 90% + of the members drove when they were underage. Also i have read somewhere that Baleno owners are complaining about the lifting at high speeds. Correct me if i am wrong. And yes I have experienced both inside the cabin when the driver was doing 140 kmph in the baleno and 170 in the Palio 1.6 and 180 in a Siena.
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