[tsk1979]

Originally Posted by julupani

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Do you mean to suggest Tata will sell, two cars, which are largely the same to a common man, with a price difference of just a few thousand bucks???!!!! Why???For what reason???

If A-Star, Wagon-R,Estilo can co exist, why not the Safari. After all the Merlin will be atleast a lakh more expensive. You do not get a new gearbox and a dual mass flywheel for peanuts, do you?

[Parm]

The current product will sell as Tata Safari Dicor. (under 10 Lakh rupees)

The new product will sell as Tata Merlin. (over 10 Lakh rupees)

if any of you who dont believe, please wait till the official launch. (oops i almost spilled the date)!

[amit_mechengg]

yes i too have an information from inside that they are not going to discontinue the current safari. there are good no of bookings for exports for the current safari. they will run in parallel. merlin will be high on equipments like Aria and will be costly.

[simply_sunny001]

Originally Posted by tsk1979

If A-Star, Wagon-R,Estilo can co exist, why not the Safari. After all the Merlin will be atleast a lakh more expensive. You do not get a new gearbox and a dual mass flywheel for peanuts, do you?

also the rear disk brakes

[himanshugoswami]

Originally Posted by Parm

The current product will sell as Tata Safari Dicor. (under 10 Lakh rupees)

The new product will sell as Tata Merlin. (over 10 Lakh rupees)

if any of you who dont believe, please wait till the official launch. (oops i almost spilled the date)!

Parm, I understand that you may not be in a position to spill the date, but I just have one question- will it be launched before 30th Set. I have to buy a new car by mid oct, and as of now the Merlin tops a very very short list. If you cant answer this on teh forum, request you to please PM me. your reply will be held in confidence for sure.....

[VeluM]

Originally Posted by Parm

The current product will sell as Tata Safari Dicor. (under 10 Lakh rupees)

The new product will sell as Tata Merlin. (over 10 Lakh rupees)

if any of you who dont believe, please wait till the official launch. (oops i almost spilled the date)!

Thanks for the heads-up!

Just confirming: Merlin is actually going to be the final product's name?

[teamveevee]

Originally Posted by julupani

It would be like Maruti selling the old Swift along side the new one.

The comparison is not right. According to Maruti, the new Swift is a brand new platform, and only thing common between the old and the new model is the engine, every other part is different.
But in case of Safari, most of the parts and engine are the same, just a facelift to the front, back and interior. I agree to your point, it is foolish for TM to sell more or less the same car at 2 different price points. But who knows?

[Parm]

Originally Posted by himanshugoswami

Parm, I understand that you may not be in a position to spill the date, but I just have one question- will it be launched before 30th Set. I have to buy a new car by mid oct, and as of now the Merlin tops a very very short list. If you cant answer this on teh forum, request you to please PM me. your reply will be held in confidence for sure.....

All i can say is Happy Diwali to you......

Originally Posted by VeluM

Thanks for the heads-up!

Just confirming: Merlin is actually going to be the final product's name?

you cant sell two different products by similar names....

....similarly you cant sell Safari Dicor and Safari Merlin side by side...

it will be Safari and Merlin (two different names for two different vehicles)

[condor]

Originally Posted by teamveevee

The comparison is not right. According to Maruti, the new Swift is a brand new platform,

The reference to Maruti models was to the rest of the line-up. They are pretty much the same underneat the skin. Do Check the specs & see. So pls dont see it only as old swift to new swift. Even then, how different is the old one from teh new ? And knowing Maruti, we will soon see a new Ritz too

[Parm]

Originally Posted by condor

The reference to Maruti models was to the rest of the line-up. They are pretty much the same underneat the skin. Do Check the specs & see. So pls dont see it only as old swift to new swift. Even then, how different is the old one from teh new ? And knowing Maruti, we will soon see a new Ritz too

All NEW SWIFT is by Suzuki world wide, nothing to do with Maruti!

the new swift replaces the old swift. world wide its 1.4 ltr engine and in india suzuki/maruti kept the old 1.2 ltr engine to get the tax rebate from the govt.

Suzuki, kept the old shape and streched it, made it wider and roomier and that too on a all new platform..

come Condor, you know it all.

coming back to the Merlin, how do you feel it would be different from the Safari?

[condor]

Originally Posted by Parm

india suzuki/maruti kept the old 1.2 ltr engine to get the tax rebate from the govt.

come Condor, you know it all.

@Parm, I have not denied that the new Swift is quite new. But it looked like @teamveevee picked out only the Swift when he said the comparison is not right. The original comment by @Julupani included more cars than the swift.

And, to set the record straight - I even acknowledged the Swift is new when I said:

Originally Posted by condor

And knowing Maruti, we will soon see a new Ritz too

Looks like you missed this part of my post

[Dry Ice]

Originally Posted by Parm

All i can say is Happy Diwali to you......

Well, Happy Diwali to you too sir!
Can we get a sneak peak of the interiors atleast before Diwali?

[Parm]

Originally Posted by condor

@Parm, I have not denied that the new Swift is quite new. But it looked like @teamveevee picked out only the Swift when he said the comparison is not right. The original comment by @Julupani included more cars than the swift.

And, to set the record straight - I even acknowledged the Swift is new when I said:
Looks like you missed this part of my post

yes Condor, i missed that part of your reply.

we might see a face lift of Ritz, but nothing else in that car attracts except the diesel engine!

[rrsteer]

Apart from some of the already mentioned additions/differences in Merlin compared to current Safari, I hope the Merlin has a tighter turning radius too.

I have lost count of family/friends/acquaintances chucking the Safari or preferring competition to it for this reason.

[the VTEC guy]

I don't understand TML stand here about the launch date. There should be some information intentionally leaked about the launch date. That way people who are in market for such a vehicle will atleast wait for some time for the launch and not go for the competetion. anyways its not going to impact the sales of existing Safari model as it is almost confirmed that both models will be sold side by side.