[jraj]

Originally Posted by Fullrevs

Bursting of the bubble indeed ! The only thing that could give it away is Alonso's statement "All these big decisions are the implications of my decision that was taken 2-3 months ago".

Guess that sums it up very well.Alonso keeps thinking Ferrari revolves around him.But the evolving scenario now doesnt sound like it.There is no denying the fact that he is a great driver,but his team player skills make principals view him with a lot of suspicion.How many here remember his rant in 2006 when he said Renault is sabotaging him as they didnt want him to carry the No1 to Mclaren in 2007

If Ron Dennis doesnt want to deal with the big toys that Alonso brings along with him,then he might end up just like Kimi in 2009.

[arun_josie]

Vettel and Alonso: The next McLaren dream team?

Read more at http://en.espnf1.com/blogs/motorspor...2IB3XGvx60d.99

[polopm]

Guys

Read this article: http://www.f1times.co.uk/news/display/09436

Shows how Alonso is being elbowed out by Matiacci and Marchionne (possibly). Ferrari have a record of dumping people. The spin mills are active and so there is a possibility of forcing Alonso out .
I think 2015 should be a cracker . Bring it on !!

[Hatari]

Originally Posted by polopm

Guys

Read this article: http://www.f1times.co.uk/news/display/09436

Shows how Alonso is being elbowed out by Matiacci and Marchionne (possibly). Ferrari have a record of dumping people. The spin mills are active and so there is a possibility of forcing Alonso out .
I think 2015 should be a cracker . Bring it on !!

Interesting for sure. One negative of Alonso's genius was that he almost won 2 WDCs. This gave false impressions to Ferrari that they were Championship worthy and did not ring the alarm bells of not being upto speed in the technical/aero departments. A malfunctioning wind tunnel cost them the 2012 title. Shameful. No question about it.

Ferrari were behind the curve during Alonso's tenure quite simply because he extracted far more from that car, than I believe any other driver could have.
They had a below par aero team, technical team and leadership in Domenicalli (who allowed the chassis dept to define technical parameters in the engine department to such a degree that it severely compromised power for years)

Ferrari have realized this much later and hired Allison and now have begun strengthening the aero/engine departments.

The fruits of this will take a long time. Time and patience Alonso did not have anymore.

Anyway, Ferrari will now have to contend with racing against him. Never before have Ferrari gone into a season with 2 drivers who were beaten by their previous team mates.

[Fullrevs]

Originally Posted by arun_josie

Vettel and Alonso: The next McLaren dream team?

Read more at http://en.espnf1.com/blogs/motorspor...2IB3XGvx60d.99

There is a lot to buy from that article. Alonso and Vettel were seen going to the Mclaren Technology Centre very recently. Its very much possible knowing how Ron Dennis operates. Im sure he would have had Senna's and Prost's Mclaren honda cars parked at the reception when Alonso and Vettel arrived.

Could be that Vettel goes to Woking next year and Alonso in 2016.

[jraj]

JamesAllen has been a very reliable source for F1 news.He has mentioned that Vettel's move to Ferrari will be announced by Marchionne after he takes over on October 13.

Contrary to what Alonso believed and would want all the fans believe,it was not him but Vettel who became the trump card for driver realignments that we see now and Horner pulled another fast one on Alonso by shutting the RBR door rightaway.

At the moment,it appears the ball is firmly in RonDennis's court

[anachronix]

Although the silly season 2015 started late, it has been an awesome one so far. Now there is reports from a famous Dutch magazine about Lewis's return to McLaren in 2015.

http://www.f1today.net/en/news/hamil...laren-for-2015

[polopm]

Originally Posted by Fullrevs

There is a lot to buy from that article. Alonso and Vettel were seen going to the Mclaren Technology Centre very recently. Its very much possible knowing how Ron Dennis operates. Im sure he would have had Senna's and Prost's Mclaren honda cars parked at the reception when Alonso and Vettel arrived.

Could be that Vettel goes to Woking next year and Alonso in 2016.

Don't forget Eddie Jordan's quote that Ron wants both of them at the same time. At this point you have so many permutation and combinations possible. Having Alonso & Seb at McLaren will be the ultimate coup d'etat.

[Hatari]

Lotus confirm the shift to Mercedes engine next year.

[Blue_V]

Ferrari, however, has been completely silent on the issue ever since, despite deafening speculation it is replacing Fernando Alonso with Vettel.

But nothing has been announced.

One report suggested McLaren's next driver lineup might be Alonso alongside Vettel.

"The Spanish star wants only a one-year contract, while McLaren is insisting on a commitment of at least two years," said Vasconcelos.

A one-year deal would leave Alonso theoretically free to leave McLaren after earning up to an incredible EUR 40 million in 2015, and then jump into Hamilton's plum seat at Mercedes for 2016.

The musical chair is mind boggling.

[deetjohn]

Originally Posted by Hatari

Lotus confirm the shift to Mercedes engine next year.

So, we can add one more team to the Alonso roulette table right?

Alonso' deal with McLaren is on the fence as he is looking for a one year deal due to potential vacancies at Mercedes and Williams in 2016. Read this article. Gives a lot of insights. Mercedes eyes Alonso as F1 2016 option if it cannot keep Hamilton

Don't know if this is Mercedes using Alonso to negotiate a better deal with Lewis.

And read that snippet below on that page of a feature in AutoSport magazine.

Originally Posted by AS Mag

JONATHAN NOBLE reveals how Fernando Alonso's attempt to engineer a seat-swap with Lewis Hamilton at Mercedes last month triggered the eruption of the 2015 F1 driver market

So, Alonso started it all and Ferrari moved fast. The Spaniard is playing with fire, either he will emerge in a very advantageous position or he might be locked out and without a drive in 2015.

[Hatari]

Originally Posted by deetjohn

So, we can add one more team to the Alonso roulette table right?

Alonso' deal with McLaren is on the fence as he is looking for a one year deal due to potential vacancies at Mercedes and Williams in 2016. Read this article. Gives a lot of insights. Mercedes eyes Alonso as F1 2016 option if it cannot keep Hamilton

Don't know if this is Mercedes using Alonso to negotiate a better deal with Lewis.

And read that snippet below on that page of a feature in AutoSport magazine.

So, Alonso started it all and Ferrari moved fast. The Spaniard is playing with fire, either he will emerge in a very advantageous position or he might be locked out and without a drive in 2015.

A lot takes place behind the scenes. With Vettel for example, there was a pre contract agreed years ago (no one exactly when). Thats why the final deal to Ferrari took only 2 weeks to finalise.

Alonso, is the smartest driver in the cockpit and out. He always held the cards. He was never going to leave the negotiations so late. Ferrari had been trying to sign him for 2017 and beyond from about 3 months ago. So Alonso had already spoken to Honda and maybe even Mercedes, and did not want to continue. Honda is rumoured to be picking up Alonso's salary tab of $35m.

I think 13th Oct is the date of the announcement under the new Ferrari president. Alonso leaving and Vettel replacing him.

I think we should start a 2016 thread already though!

[Blue_V]

Originally Posted by Hatari

A lot takes place behind the scenes. With Vettel for example, there was a pre contract agreed years ago (no one exactly when). Thats why the final deal to Ferrari took only 2 weeks to finalise.

Alonso, is the smartest driver in the cockpit and out. He always held the cards. He was never going to leave the negotiations so late. Ferrari had been trying to sign him for 2017 and beyond from about 3 months ago. So Alonso had already spoken to Honda and maybe even Mercedes, and did not want to continue. Honda is rumoured to be picking up Alonso's salary tab of $35m.

I think 13th Oct is the date of the announcement under the new Ferrari president. Alonso leaving and Vettel replacing him.

I think we should start a 2016 thread already though!

Rumours have been wild. Alonso leaving to form cycling team etc, sabbatical etc. He has not talked anything close to that. Has Lewis's 2016 contract been confirmed? Button and Magnussen are still to sigh their deals for 2015/2016. Fingers crossed though.

[el lobo 6061]

Sebastian Vettel's Salary at Ferrari: $80 Million a year makes him the highest-paid F1 driver ever.

After he went through professional karting series, the German Formula BMW, the Formula 3 Euro and Formula Renault 3.5 Series, Sebastian Vettel became the third driver for the BMW Sauber team at the 2006 Turkish Grand Prix. In just three years since that moment, Vettal was hired by Red Bull Racing.

Now 27 years of age, the F1 prodigy managed to win the drivers' championship four years in a row, becoming the youngest driver ever to win the drivers' championship, then the youngest double, triple and quadruple world champ in Formula 1. Some enthusiasts and Formula 1 commentators dubbed his as the new Schumacher and easy to understand why.

He's a very ruthless driver that always races to win a Grand Prix or get that pole position. Furthermore, his aggressive yet technical driving style, together with his tough psyche as a professional racecar driver render him the take no prisoners / give no quarter type, a la Schumacher and Ayrton Senna.

However, things haven't been going well for him in the 2014 season, mainly because Red Bull's Renault V6 engine is one of the least powerful and reliable on the grid. That's why a frustrated Vettel decided he'll jump ship to Scuderia Ferrari the following season, taking the place of Fernando Alonso, the latter expected to sign a three-year deal with the McLaren Honda team.

Although nobody knows if the Scuderia will actually make a better handling car next year, one that'll be competitive against the dominant Mercedes-AMG single seaters, Vettel has something to look forward to - his new salary. The DailyMail reports that driving for Ferrari equates to £50 million a year, translating to approximately $80 million, making the young German a better paid sportsman than Lebron James ($72.3 million), Cristiano Ronaldo ($52 million salary) and NFL superstar Matt Ryan ($42 million per year).

Good on you, champ! Now let's see if you'll like next year's Ferrari F15 T more than the Red Bull RB10.

Source:

So Vettel confirmed for Ferrari. What next?

[anachronix]

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2014/10/1...gy-group-vote/

Marco seriously fighting for it

However Ferrari team principal Marco Mattiacci remains a staunch advocate of loosening the regulations.

“Just the word ‘frozen’ engines, this is not Formula One, to talk about frozen engines,” he said.

“I agree with Christian, today with have the majority of the vote to move ahead and to unfreeze the engine. Let’s see what’s going to happen during the F1 Commission.”