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F50 · 10th July 2007, 00:01

Kimi is suddenly improving. And that's nice. Ferrari was clearly the fastest.
Now just few more wins by Kimi and nice finish by Massa or vice-versa. And some sensible driving by Alonso can change few things.
Those laps by Kimi were awesome!

mclaren1885 · 10th July 2007, 01:20

The drivers championship could get hotter with both Ferrari & Fonso trying to get their act together.

vinod · 10th July 2007, 16:52

massa could have made the podium if it weren't for a stalled engine...

IronWolf · 10th July 2007, 20:47

RESULTS
1. Raikkonen
2. Alonso
3. Hamilton

Crap looks like I missed a good race, Missed the highlights too..

What is it going to take to get that rookie off the podium?

Hes going to take the Championship in most certainty.

Consistency and a cool head is his game plan.

merve_extreme · 20th July 2007, 02:09

The Track

The Flying Lap

YouTube - Merv's Nurburgring flying Lap

Number of Laps:60
Circuit Length:5.148 km
Race Distance:308.863 km
Lap Record:1:29.468 - M Schumacher (2004)

Pervious Winners

2006-Michael Schumacher,Ferrari

Time Table

Friday

Practice 1- 1330-1500
Practice 2- 1730-1900

Saturday

Practice - 1430-1530
Qualifying- 1730-1830

Sunday

Race - 1730-1900

TV Times

Qualifying --1727-1830 Live on StarSports
RaceDay --1630-1715 Live on StarSports
Race --1715-1900 Live on StarSports
Chequered Flag --1900 Live on StarSports

Favourites for the Race

Win

Ferrari
Mclaren

Podium

BMW
Renault

speedzak · 20th July 2007, 03:30

Wow! That's a nice set of info.
Thanks for sharing it.

Hope the TV guys don't mess up this time too. Now There's a full time Cricket channel. So, can we have some more dedicated time for F1 and Rallying in other sports channels?

GTO · 20th July 2007, 12:25

Ferrari have really worked on their car, and its the current fastest. Mclaren had their hands full with the recent legal developments so I doubt they would have had a chance to work with 100% focus.

Looking forward to the practice times...

manson · 20th July 2007, 17:49

Source F1.com
Link: The Official Formula 1 Website

McLaren and Ferrari duked it out at the Nurburgring as practice for the European Grand Prix got underway this morning, with BMW Sauber right in there with them.

All three teams seemed evenly matched thus far, with Lewis Hamilton setting the pace on 1m 32.515s chased by Kimi Raikkonen (1m 32.751s), Fernando Alonso (1m 32.932s) and Nick Heidfeld (1m 32.975s).

Not far behind, Robert Kubica (1m 33.205s) and Felipe Massa (1m 33.605s), were fifth and sixth , with Ralf Schumacher (1m 33.825s), Jenson Button (1m 33.936s), David Coulthard (1m 34.062s) and Rubens Barrichello (1m 34.142s) flying the respective flags for Toyota, Honda and Red Bull.

Toyota’s Jarno Trulli was 11th on 1m 33.152s, ahead of the Williams of Alex Wurz (1m 34.345s) and Nico Rosberg (1m 34.563s), Anthony Davidson (1m 34.567s) in the Super Aguri, Red Bull’s Mark Webber (1m 34.683s), Super Aguri’s Takuma Sato (1m 34. 708s), Toro Rosso’s Tonio Liuzzi (1m 34.907s) and Heikki Kovalainen (1m 34.921s) in the Renault.

Giancarlo Fisichella (1m 35.077s), Scott Speed (1m 35.643s), Adrian Sutil (1m 36.340s) and Markus Winkelhock (1m 37.116s) completed the list for Renault, Toro Rosso, and Spyker respectively.

The Nurburgring is quite a high-grip circuit, but there were nevertheless a fair number of off-track excursions as drivers pushed too hard. Massa erred in Turns Three and Four, Winkelhock in Turn Four, Speed in Turn Three, Fisichella in Turn Six, and Schumacher in Turn 10. None sustained anything more than temporary embarrassment.

manson.

Rtech · 20th July 2007, 17:53

Easier to read chart of 1st free practice times:
1. HAMILTON McLaren 1m32.515s
2. RAIKKONEN Ferrari 1m32.751s
3. ALONSO McLaren 1m32.932s
4. HEIDFELD BMW 1m32.975s
5. KUBICA BMW 1m33.205s
6. MASSA Ferrari 1m33.605s
7. SCHUMACHER Toyota 1m33.825s
8. BUTTON Honda 1m33.936s
9. COULTHARD Red Bull 1m34.062s
10. BARRICHELLO Honda 1m34.142s
11. TRULLI Toyota 1m34.152s
12. WURZ Williams 1m34.345s
13. ROSBERG Williams 1m34.563s
14. DAVIDSON Super Aguri 1m34.567s
15. WEBBER Red Bull 1m34.683s
16. SATO Super Aguri 1m34.708s
17. LIUZZI Toro Rosso 1m34.907s
18. KOVALAINEN Renault 1m34.921s
19. FISICHELLA Renault 1m35.077s
20. SPEED Toro Rosso 1m35.643s
21. SUTIL Spyker 1m36.340s
22. WINKELHOCK Spyker 1m37.116s

Source: itv.com/f1

merve_extreme · 20th July 2007, 20:01

Kimi Raikkonen pips Lewis Hamilton

RAIKKONEN Ferrari 1m33.339s
HAMILTON McLaren 1m33.487s
MASSA Ferrari 1m33.590s
ALONSO McLaren 1m33.637s
SCHUMACHER Toyota 1m33.668s
TRULLI Toyota 1m33.746s
ROSBERG Williams 1m33.845s
BUTTON Honda 1m33.880s
HEIDFELD BMW 1m34.146s
KUBICA BMW 1m34.221s
WEBBER Red Bull 1m34.235s
WURZ Williams 1m34.264s
SATO Super Aguri 1m34.357s
BARRICHELLO Honda 1m34.411s
FISICHELLA Renault 1m34.431s
KOVALAINEN Renault 1m34.446s
COULTHARD Red Bull 1m34.504s
DAVIDSON Super Aguri 1m34.554s
SPEED Toro Rosso 1m35.320s
LIUZZI Toro Rosso 1m35.653s
SUTIL Spyker 1m36.527s
WINKELHOCK Spyker 1m37.319s

source:itv.com/f1

Dippy · 21st July 2007, 11:48

Raikkonen seens to have got his act together big time and seems to be fully pumped up. Hes also claimed that Ferrari have gone even more faster and that results from the Spa test echo his thoughts.

I expect Kimi to take this one too hopefully.

GTO · 21st July 2007, 13:46

Huge chance of rain!! And for the better. Long time since we have seen a bucket-wet race.

Laxminarayan · 21st July 2007, 14:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTO

Huge chance of rain!! And for the better. Long time since we have seen a bucket-wet race.

Yup, completely agree and it's been a long time.. makes the race more interesting and exciting.. Need to see who's the Rain Master. Any takes on that?? Is Massa good for Rain??

Still remember (around 2-3 years I guess, German GP if I'm correct) Barrichelo completing the race with the normal tyres and trying to control the car in each and every corner, was very exciting..

GTO · 21st July 2007, 15:19

Will be a good chance to check Hamiltons performance in the rain. He really hasnt proved himself as a rain-master or an overtaking guru so far.

Dippy · 21st July 2007, 15:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laxminarayan

Yup, completely agree and it's been a long time.. makes the race more interesting and exciting.. Need to see who's the Rain Master. Any takes on that?? Is Massa good for Rain??

Still remember (around 2-3 years I guess, German GP if I'm correct) Barrichelo completing the race with the normal tyres and trying to control the car in each and every corner, was very exciting..

That was the German GP 2000 where Rubens won on dry tyres. Will be interesting to see who the new Rainmaster will be. The previous one is a legend. Massa and Hamilton's rain skills will worth a watch.

10th July 2007, 00:01	#1966
F50 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai/USA Posts: 1,704 Thanked: 103 Times	Kimi is suddenly improving. And that's nice. Ferrari was clearly the fastest. Now just few more wins by Kimi and nice finish by Massa or vice-versa. And some sensible driving by Alonso can change few things. Those laps by Kimi were awesome!
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10th July 2007, 01:20	#1967
mclaren1885 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bangalore (the city of modded cars) !! Posts: 4,818 Thanked: 46 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (10)	The drivers championship could get hotter with both Ferrari & Fonso trying to get their act together.
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10th July 2007, 16:52	#1968
vinod BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Detroit Posts: 131 Thanked: 9 Times	massa could have made the podium if it weren't for a stalled engine...
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10th July 2007, 20:47	#1969
IronWolf Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Benga-loo-ru Posts: 1,569 Thanked: 45 Times View My Garage	RESULTS 1. Raikkonen 2. Alonso 3. Hamilton Crap looks like I missed a good race, Missed the highlights too.. What is it going to take to get that rookie off the podium? Hes going to take the Championship in most certainty. Consistency and a cool head is his game plan.
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20th July 2007, 03:30	#1971
speedzak BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: India Posts: 4,346 Thanked: 29 Times	Wow! That's a nice set of info. Thanks for sharing it. Hope the TV guys don't mess up this time too. Now There's a full time Cricket channel. So, can we have some more dedicated time for F1 and Rallying in other sports channels?
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View Poll Results: Constructor's Championshop Prediction
Ferrari	26	65.00%
McLaren	11	27.50%
Renault	2	5.00%
BMW Sauber	0	0%
Toyota	0	0%
Honda	0	0%
Red Bull	0	0%
Toro Rosso	0	0%
Super Aguri	0	0%
Williams	1	2.50%
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20th July 2007, 12:25	#1972
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 71,869 Thanked: 323,069 Times View My Garage	Ferrari have really worked on their car, and its the current fastest. Mclaren had their hands full with the recent legal developments so I doubt they would have had a chance to work with 100% focus. Looking forward to the practice times...
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20th July 2007, 17:49	#1973
manson Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 3,934 Thanked: 4,291 Times View My Garage	Practice One - BMW push McLaren and Ferrari hard Source F1.com Link: The Official Formula 1 Website McLaren and Ferrari duked it out at the Nurburgring as practice for the European Grand Prix got underway this morning, with BMW Sauber right in there with them. All three teams seemed evenly matched thus far, with Lewis Hamilton setting the pace on 1m 32.515s chased by Kimi Raikkonen (1m 32.751s), Fernando Alonso (1m 32.932s) and Nick Heidfeld (1m 32.975s). Not far behind, Robert Kubica (1m 33.205s) and Felipe Massa (1m 33.605s), were fifth and sixth , with Ralf Schumacher (1m 33.825s), Jenson Button (1m 33.936s), David Coulthard (1m 34.062s) and Rubens Barrichello (1m 34.142s) flying the respective flags for Toyota, Honda and Red Bull. Toyota’s Jarno Trulli was 11th on 1m 33.152s, ahead of the Williams of Alex Wurz (1m 34.345s) and Nico Rosberg (1m 34.563s), Anthony Davidson (1m 34.567s) in the Super Aguri, Red Bull’s Mark Webber (1m 34.683s), Super Aguri’s Takuma Sato (1m 34. 708s), Toro Rosso’s Tonio Liuzzi (1m 34.907s) and Heikki Kovalainen (1m 34.921s) in the Renault. Giancarlo Fisichella (1m 35.077s), Scott Speed (1m 35.643s), Adrian Sutil (1m 36.340s) and Markus Winkelhock (1m 37.116s) completed the list for Renault, Toro Rosso, and Spyker respectively. The Nurburgring is quite a high-grip circuit, but there were nevertheless a fair number of off-track excursions as drivers pushed too hard. Massa erred in Turns Three and Four, Winkelhock in Turn Four, Speed in Turn Three, Fisichella in Turn Six, and Schumacher in Turn 10. None sustained anything more than temporary embarrassment. manson.
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20th July 2007, 17:53	#1974
Rtech Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,765 Thanked: 371 Times View My Garage	Easier to read chart of 1st free practice times: 1. HAMILTON McLaren 1m32.515s 2. RAIKKONEN Ferrari 1m32.751s 3. ALONSO McLaren 1m32.932s 4. HEIDFELD BMW 1m32.975s 5. KUBICA BMW 1m33.205s 6. MASSA Ferrari 1m33.605s 7. SCHUMACHER Toyota 1m33.825s 8. BUTTON Honda 1m33.936s 9. COULTHARD Red Bull 1m34.062s 10. BARRICHELLO Honda 1m34.142s 11. TRULLI Toyota 1m34.152s 12. WURZ Williams 1m34.345s 13. ROSBERG Williams 1m34.563s 14. DAVIDSON Super Aguri 1m34.567s 15. WEBBER Red Bull 1m34.683s 16. SATO Super Aguri 1m34.708s 17. LIUZZI Toro Rosso 1m34.907s 18. KOVALAINEN Renault 1m34.921s 19. FISICHELLA Renault 1m35.077s 20. SPEED Toro Rosso 1m35.643s 21. SUTIL Spyker 1m36.340s 22. WINKELHOCK Spyker 1m37.116s Source: itv.com/f1
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20th July 2007, 20:01	#1975
merve_extreme Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,359 Thanked: 18 Times View My Garage	Friday Practice 2 Kimi Raikkonen pips Lewis Hamilton RAIKKONEN Ferrari 1m33.339s HAMILTON McLaren 1m33.487s MASSA Ferrari 1m33.590s ALONSO McLaren 1m33.637s SCHUMACHER Toyota 1m33.668s TRULLI Toyota 1m33.746s ROSBERG Williams 1m33.845s BUTTON Honda 1m33.880s HEIDFELD BMW 1m34.146s KUBICA BMW 1m34.221s WEBBER Red Bull 1m34.235s WURZ Williams 1m34.264s SATO Super Aguri 1m34.357s BARRICHELLO Honda 1m34.411s FISICHELLA Renault 1m34.431s KOVALAINEN Renault 1m34.446s COULTHARD Red Bull 1m34.504s DAVIDSON Super Aguri 1m34.554s SPEED Toro Rosso 1m35.320s LIUZZI Toro Rosso 1m35.653s SUTIL Spyker 1m36.527s WINKELHOCK Spyker 1m37.319s source:itv.com/f1 Last edited by merve_extreme : 20th July 2007 at 20:05.
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21st July 2007, 11:48	#1976
Dippy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 7,800 Thanked: 4,489 Times	Raikkonen seens to have got his act together big time and seems to be fully pumped up. Hes also claimed that Ferrari have gone even more faster and that results from the Spa test echo his thoughts. I expect Kimi to take this one too hopefully.
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21st July 2007, 13:46	#1977
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 71,869 Thanked: 323,069 Times View My Garage	Huge chance of rain!! And for the better. Long time since we have seen a bucket-wet race.
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21st July 2007, 15:19	#1979
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 71,869 Thanked: 323,069 Times View My Garage	Will be a good chance to check Hamiltons performance in the rain. He really hasnt proved himself as a rain-master or an overtaking guru so far.
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