Suzuki Swift turbo

gemballa · 18th January 2008, 03:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaKnight

sweet ride......removes the tag " all show but no go" i hope...

cheers .... i hope so too.

so far it has not let me down going to start hunting for the L.S.D that should make it go even faster and put the power down better... ...

at the moment the car has to be rolling in second for a quick blast it wheelspins all the way through first only 35% throttle..hehe
but im still getting used to the car and its behaviour as its sooooooooooo different to stock so more kms needed to be fully aware of the characteristics of the engine ie.optimum shift rpm through all gears... etc

dipen · 18th January 2008, 04:09

Hey KS,
I am sure you are reading this thread. Please come forward and provide more details for which gemballa did not have the answers or does not know about. Also we are all eagerly waiting for the dynoed (before and after) results.

cyneverdie · 18th January 2008, 05:05

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modify...-your-car.html

How to check your install:

- The easiest way to check is by applying the throttle while in second gear and letting the engine reach 60% of the rev range. If your ECU's warning lamp does not come on, you are ready to go;
- There should be no smoke from the exhaust;
- Make sure your water temperature needle is at its usual position and does not climb rapidly;
- There should be no sudden sucking noises from the turbo. This noise means you are running a small turbo;
- Lift you foot from the accelerator and check to make sure your BOV engages; and
- Learn how to slip your clutch. It is almost mandatory for driving turbo cars.

your ECU warning light is always on , and KS said the Bangy boys know what they are talking about ; so whats the scene man- KS you there man?

ananthkamath · 18th January 2008, 10:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by gemballa

so far it has not let me down going to start hunting for the L.S.D that should make it go even faster and put the power down better... ...

Good luck with getting better traction using an LSD.

Ford Rocam · 18th January 2008, 22:14

Any news on dyno sheet for the car?

chetanhanda · 22nd January 2008, 00:46

This swift is much faster now but any dyno printouts as yet ?

V-16 · 22nd January 2008, 01:06

Its a swift, Swift all right. Had the opportunity of slipping in for a ride this evening.
Great car, runs really well and stops precisely in its tracks too.
The difference can be felt immediately after the pedal is floored and she delivers the power beautifully and fast.
Enjoy Gemballa.
Karan, Great job!

Akshay1234 · 22nd January 2008, 09:14

has the car been dynoed? can we see the results?

KS Motorsport · 22nd January 2008, 12:03

I have dynoed the car........it makes a little over 105hp.Just to give u guys an understanding of the power.I the stock made 69hp in 8 sec.....this car made the 105 in 4.8 sec........I dont want to post the graph otherwise I will have to spend more of my time explaining the grahp to some on this forum,than make another turbo car.......And if the 105hp is still less for a few BHpains,then i will lean out the AFR to make it into the 115hp area.There is a little drop in power at a higher RPM,but then that is also mechanically related.Now people are going to ask me alot of question

which i am not going to reply to.
I would first want another tuner to make a car and run it on my dyno,i will want to ask him questions,then I will reply to alll ur questions.........I would also like to see a few of the BHPian cars on the roller,but not many people from this forum really have the b***s to face the reality of HP.

Oh yes,for the mathematiclly challenged,105hp equates to 123BHP

iraghava · 22nd January 2008, 12:37

That's good work Karan but sadly the attitude does not match. Why is asking questions bad?? If it is some secret you tell us I can't tell you that but for everyone's knowledge I would think answering questions which you can & are willing to answer should be a beneficial thing.

And going by your line of how many people have the gonads to face the reality, how do I know that the 105 bhp figure you quote is true?? Only way to prove it would be a Dyno map, no? To be frank, I would have posted the map here unless there is something amiss there. Dynoing a car & not putting up the map, just makes the claims look a little fishy.

No offence man, just my two cents.

S@~+#0$# · 22nd January 2008, 12:42

I wonder why questions are not entertained on this thread.

First we see this

Quote:

Originally Posted by gemballa

no man its just a pic....go speak to the guy at the garage if ur so interested in the where abouts of my pipes

And now the tuner does not want to answer any questions. IMO, I felt KS Motorsport's post to be quite rude.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KS Motorsport

I dont want to post the graph otherwise I will have to spend more of my time explaining the grahp to some on this forum,than make another turbo car

This community is about sharing knowledge. If you don't want to answer questions, that's fine, but do share the graph with us. We'll find the answers ourselves.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KS Motorsport

And if the 105hp is still less for a few BHpains,then i will lean out the AFR to make it into the 115hp area.

As long as Gembala is happy, that's what matters. No need to increase it to 115hp for our sake. What are you after? Higher numbers?

Quote:

Originally Posted by KS Motorsport

There is a little drop in power at a higher RPM,but then that is also mechanically related.Now people are going to ask me alot of question

which i am not going to reply to

Everything is mechanically related, but with knowledge and experience, people will be able to tell what the problem is. No, don't share this one with us, we bhp-ians may actually end up fixing this for you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KS Motorsport

I would also like to see a few of the BHPian cars on the roller,but not many people from this forum really have the b***s to face the reality of HP.

This statement is unwarranted.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KS Motorsport

Oh yes,for the mathematiclly challenged,105hp equates to 123BHP

Really!?! Thanks. We did not know.

humyum · 22nd January 2008, 13:45

First the tuned car owner is rude and now the tuner is rude?Does attitude come free with success?

Anway had a few questions even before and even now from the knowledge point of view as i neither have a mod friendly car nor the dough to mod/maintain a modded ride but i will refrain from asking them as the attitude is just not right and google/wiki has not shut down yet.

suman · 22nd January 2008, 13:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by KS Motorsport

Oh yes,for the mathematiclly challenged,105hp equates to 123BHP

Wow, thanks for telling us this, we'd have been completely & totally lost without your guidance

Quote:

Originally Posted by iraghava

To be frank, I would have posted the map here unless there is something amiss there. Dynoing a car & not putting up the map, just makes the claims look a little fishy.

Well said Ishan

, agree with you completely on that one

KS Motorsport · 22nd January 2008, 14:02

The reason I said that I would not want to answer all the question is,that most of the questions would be actually be to test my knowledge or know how,rather than the problem itself.Some one tring to show that he knows more just by reading "how stuff works" etc.I will always aswer question if that are not going to be like"what is the AFR at 5500rpm with realation to boost"....stuff like that.I cant make a car,then fine tune it,spend some time doing r&d,and answer stupid question.(alot of people will agree on that part).

Its not the attitude that i have,but belive me, its the frustration that i have against people who only talk what they have read on the internet.Only 3-4 bhpians,i know u actually have some practical knowledge.

Some are sitting in some country and boast of a fast car and tunning knowledge.But most of the times,i can make out they have actually"googled" some thing and put up the posts.

If any one would want to know more about any cars that has been done by me,they are most welcome at my place.I will show them the dyno sheet and explain to them what ever they ask.But

please dont expect me to type out long explaintions of the dyno sheets.

I request people to come and use the dyno to get a better understanding of their car`s power in relation to the time and RPM.

What more can I say :(

KS Motorsport · 22nd January 2008, 14:13

"As long as Gembala is happy, that's what matters. No need to increase it to 115hp for our sake. What are you after? Higher numbers?"

I ma not after higher numbers.I would want to car to be used everyday nad the owner of the car to be happy.But this concept some will not understand.They would say"oh 105 hp only......may if u do this or may be that,then u will get more".......Thats the reason I said,that to make people happy,i can pull out a few more HP,but thats not reliable and very unsafe.

I was going to put up the dyno sheets,but on my web site and not here.U guys can see them there next week.I will be putting up 8 different cars.......Stock and modded.I will have the list of mods also written below the graphs.

Karan

18th January 2008, 04:09	#32
dipen Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: mumbai Posts: 2,304 Thanked: 975 Times	Hey KS, I am sure you are reading this thread. Please come forward and provide more details for which gemballa did not have the answers or does not know about. Also we are all eagerly waiting for the dynoed (before and after) results.
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18th January 2008, 05:05	#33
cyneverdie BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: bombay Posts: 440 Thanked: 6 Times	http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modify...-your-car.html How to check your install: - The easiest way to check is by applying the throttle while in second gear and letting the engine reach 60% of the rev range. If your ECU's warning lamp does not come on, you are ready to go; - There should be no smoke from the exhaust; - Make sure your water temperature needle is at its usual position and does not climb rapidly; - There should be no sudden sucking noises from the turbo. This noise means you are running a small turbo; - Lift you foot from the accelerator and check to make sure your BOV engages; and - Learn how to slip your clutch. It is almost mandatory for driving turbo cars. your ECU warning light is always on , and KS said the Bangy boys know what they are talking about ; so whats the scene man- KS you there man?
	() Thanks

18th January 2008, 22:14	#35
Ford Rocam BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mumbai-India Posts: 868 Thanked: 23 Times	Any news on dyno sheet for the car?
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22nd January 2008, 00:46	#36
chetanhanda BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 887 Thanked: 49 Times View My Garage	This swift is much faster now but any dyno printouts as yet ?
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22nd January 2008, 01:06	#37
V-16 Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 4,589 Thanked: 960 Times View My Garage	Its a swift, Swift all right. Had the opportunity of slipping in for a ride this evening. Great car, runs really well and stops precisely in its tracks too. The difference can be felt immediately after the pedal is floored and she delivers the power beautifully and fast. Enjoy Gemballa. Karan, Great job!
	() Thanks

22nd January 2008, 09:14	#38
Akshay1234 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 10,327 Thanked: 12,914 Times	has the car been dynoed? can we see the results?
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22nd January 2008, 12:03	#39
KS Motorsport BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 112 Thanked: 11 Times	105 hp I have dynoed the car........it makes a little over 105hp.Just to give u guys an understanding of the power.I the stock made 69hp in 8 sec.....this car made the 105 in 4.8 sec........I dont want to post the graph otherwise I will have to spend more of my time explaining the grahp to some on this forum,than make another turbo car.......And if the 105hp is still less for a few BHpains,then i will lean out the AFR to make it into the 115hp area.There is a little drop in power at a higher RPM,but then that is also mechanically related.Now people are going to ask me alot of question which i am not going to reply to. I would first want another tuner to make a car and run it on my dyno,i will want to ask him questions,then I will reply to alll ur questions.........I would also like to see a few of the BHPian cars on the roller,but not many people from this forum really have the b***s to face the reality of HP. Oh yes,for the mathematiclly challenged,105hp equates to 123BHP
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22nd January 2008, 12:37	#40
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 7,993 Thanked: 281 Times View My Garage	That's good work Karan but sadly the attitude does not match. Why is asking questions bad?? If it is some secret you tell us I can't tell you that but for everyone's knowledge I would think answering questions which you can & are willing to answer should be a beneficial thing. And going by your line of how many people have the gonads to face the reality, how do I know that the 105 bhp figure you quote is true?? Only way to prove it would be a Dyno map, no? To be frank, I would have posted the map here unless there is something amiss there. Dynoing a car & not putting up the map, just makes the claims look a little fishy. No offence man, just my two cents.
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22nd January 2008, 13:45	#42
humyum Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,830 Thanked: 5,865 Times	First the tuned car owner is rude and now the tuner is rude?Does attitude come free with success? Anway had a few questions even before and even now from the knowledge point of view as i neither have a mod friendly car nor the dough to mod/maintain a modded ride but i will refrain from asking them as the attitude is just not right and google/wiki has not shut down yet.
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22nd January 2008, 14:02	#44
KS Motorsport BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 112 Thanked: 11 Times	The reason I said that I would not want to answer all the question is,that most of the questions would be actually be to test my knowledge or know how,rather than the problem itself.Some one tring to show that he knows more just by reading "how stuff works" etc.I will always aswer question if that are not going to be like"what is the AFR at 5500rpm with realation to boost"....stuff like that.I cant make a car,then fine tune it,spend some time doing r&d,and answer stupid question.(alot of people will agree on that part). Its not the attitude that i have,but belive me, its the frustration that i have against people who only talk what they have read on the internet.Only 3-4 bhpians,i know u actually have some practical knowledge. Some are sitting in some country and boast of a fast car and tunning knowledge.But most of the times,i can make out they have actually"googled" some thing and put up the posts. If any one would want to know more about any cars that has been done by me,they are most welcome at my place.I will show them the dyno sheet and explain to them what ever they ask.But please dont expect me to type out long explaintions of the dyno sheets. I request people to come and use the dyno to get a better understanding of their car`s power in relation to the time and RPM. What more can I say :(
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22nd January 2008, 14:13	#45
KS Motorsport BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 112 Thanked: 11 Times	"As long as Gembala is happy, that's what matters. No need to increase it to 115hp for our sake. What are you after? Higher numbers?" I ma not after higher numbers.I would want to car to be used everyday nad the owner of the car to be happy.But this concept some will not understand.They would say"oh 105 hp only......may if u do this or may be that,then u will get more".......Thats the reason I said,that to make people happy,i can pull out a few more HP,but thats not reliable and very unsafe. I was going to put up the dyno sheets,but on my web site and not here.U guys can see them there next week.I will be putting up 8 different cars.......Stock and modded.I will have the list of mods also written below the graphs. Karan
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