Baleno - Deck up time

v1p3r · 12th July 2005, 18:52

Ok, let me try the tyres bit.

185/70 is ok for city driving, with the occasional highway jaunt. No problems really. I have them on the stock steel rims, and I've hit 165, and thrown the car about quite a bit. The ride quality is simply amazing.

If you want 14s, I suggest you buy alloys as well. Purely for looks. Also, the right upsize would be 195/60 R 14. This would decrement FE by about 0.5kmpl, or maybe not even that. But if you're a cornering enthusiast, who lives on the edge of grip, it's a wise investment. Otherwise, it's basically looks. And it does look much, much better.

Phew! Hope that clears somethings up!

@islandman, what's the final decision? child seat or driving pleasure?!

Buffetfan · 13th July 2005, 00:33

Hi Observer,

1. 185/70 R 13 : Best Ride, good Braking, Average cornering grip, higher body roll (v1p3r's Baleno..good option if you want to keep the rims and dont compromise safety)
2. 185/65 R 14 : Slightly firm ride, Good Braking, Good cornering grip, little body roll (My Baleno...at least increase the Rim Size if Alloys are to be put)
3. 195/60 R 14 : Firm ride, Best braking, Best cornering grip, little body Roll.
...if you want perfect ALLOY looks try 15" rims...stop worrying about ride comfort though...the tyre options here will be
185/60 R15, 195/55 R15, 205/50 R15

v1p3r · 13th July 2005, 00:52

Hey, I've noticed the body roll in tight corners. Can you explain how the larger wheels with same overall diameter will cut down body roll?

Buffetfan · 13th July 2005, 01:34

there will be less tyre flex on teh sidewall and hence less of unsettlement on the body of car.....note that a soft suspension increases body roll and same will be the case with soft sidewall in the tyre...

balenopower · 13th July 2005, 02:02

hey guys saw the tyre talk goin on....well im needin some help too.
now wht im doin at the moment is upgrading my stock rims and tyres...but there's a catch cant afford both alloys and tyres together now:(.so wht the tyrewala told me was upgrade to 195/r14 brgstons/eaglef1/falken any one of em.for the rim he's gonna provide me with 14 inch rims of a different car take a deposit for them and gimme the money back when i put the alloys from him....now should i go ahead with this or not?????

the second part-- i heard from a lot of guys that if i go in for 15 inchers the suspension neeeds some extra mods and also the cars gonna crash over potholes because of the lesser suspension travel.....now thts got me even more confused about teh 15 inchers....wht do i do???

observer · 13th July 2005, 10:10

Buffetfan, V1p3r, thank you for the information. Now I know what combination is right, will be able to decide well.
But, what is body roll

iceman91 · 13th July 2005, 11:01

body roll is when the car tends to flex a bit...due to bad tires or suspension..in corners

Revvhead · 13th July 2005, 11:04

Body roll- very simply put, when you turn into a corner, esp very hard (read fast)
the body of the car tends to sway, one end rolls(dives) towards the ground and one end away,
Now this is obviously not fun for the occupants as it gives a feeling of instabilty

actually it is a sign of instability, as after a point, at the limit of the body roll, the wheels on that side will tend to lift off.

So the stiffer the car is, the less body roll you will have, the better your cornering and handling will be and the lesser the chanceof turning over!

Hope thats good enough!

CaliforniaKnight · 13th July 2005, 11:10

Guyz theres a black baleno in koramangala with a mesh grill and 17 inch alloy wheels..yeah 17 INCH..the Regn number being 15.Has anyone seen this baleno or does it belong to anyone in Team-BHP.

iceman91 · 13th July 2005, 11:12

...belongs to a friend...a sardarji...sweet car...teh wheels are a lambo lookalike

mohit · 13th July 2005, 11:16

yeah saw this in the Forum parking lot....... had the Jo Bole So Nihal tagline on the back - No if no but... sirf Jatt! Huge wheels man!

CaliforniaKnight · 13th July 2005, 11:24

[quote=iceman91...sweet car...teh wheels are a lambo lookalike[/QUOTE]

exactly..a Lambo lookalike..

shobhit15 · 13th July 2005, 16:55

Hi Guys. I was quoted the following price for the accessories for Baleno LXI by a local dealer in Noida. Do you mind advising whether he is overcharging on something ?

1. Power Antenna - 750/- No warranty
2. RearSpoiler - 1500/- (Including painting and fitting) - No warranty
3. Keyless System with alarm - Autocop for Rs.3200/- (includes ignition block) - 3 yr warranty
4. Music System - I want one which can play CD and Cassette and FM/AM (Double Dean). He suggested several ones as follows. All prices are exclusive of speakers.

a. Sony - Rs 15,000
b. Pioneer - Rs 12,000
c. JVC - Rs 8,000

I want to know which is the best music system I should go for. My limit is 12,000 without speakers. Also please suggest me which speakers should I buy ? I do not need very high wattage. Just average ones. But the quality and clarity should be good.

satan_crazy · 14th July 2005, 16:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by shobhit15

4. Music System - I want one which can play CD and Cassette and FM/AM (Double Dean). He suggested several ones as follows. All prices are exclusive of speakers.

a. Sony - Rs 15,000
b. Pioneer - Rs 12,000
c. JVC - Rs 8,000

I think you can bargain on the Pioneer price. Not quite sure about the rest. You get a Pioneer 6750 (single cd mp3 player with am/fm) for 7.8k, just to give you a perspective.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shobhit15

Also please suggest me which speakers should I buy ? I do not need very high wattage. Just average ones. But the quality and clarity should be good.

I just got Sound Stream speakers E series, 2 rear speakers 6" x 9" 150 W RMS for 6k and 2 front speakers 5.25" 75 W RMS for 3.1k and they are pretty awesome. JBL ones are cheaper, 4k for the rear and 2k for the front.

12th July 2005, 18:52	#61
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,363 Thanked: 7,504 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (7)	Ok, let me try the tyres bit. 185/70 is ok for city driving, with the occasional highway jaunt. No problems really. I have them on the stock steel rims, and I've hit 165, and thrown the car about quite a bit. The ride quality is simply amazing. If you want 14s, I suggest you buy alloys as well. Purely for looks. Also, the right upsize would be 195/60 R 14. This would decrement FE by about 0.5kmpl, or maybe not even that. But if you're a cornering enthusiast, who lives on the edge of grip, it's a wise investment. Otherwise, it's basically looks. And it does look much, much better. Phew! Hope that clears somethings up! @islandman, what's the final decision? child seat or driving pleasure?!
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13th July 2005, 00:33	#62
Buffetfan Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 1,130 Thanked: 216 Times	Hi Observer, 1. 185/70 R 13 : Best Ride, good Braking, Average cornering grip, higher body roll (v1p3r's Baleno..good option if you want to keep the rims and dont compromise safety) 2. 185/65 R 14 : Slightly firm ride, Good Braking, Good cornering grip, little body roll (My Baleno...at least increase the Rim Size if Alloys are to be put) 3. 195/60 R 14 : Firm ride, Best braking, Best cornering grip, little body Roll. ...if you want perfect ALLOY looks try 15" rims...stop worrying about ride comfort though...the tyre options here will be 185/60 R15, 195/55 R15, 205/50 R15 Last edited by Buffetfan : 13th July 2005 at 00:35. Reason: mistake
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13th July 2005, 00:52	#63
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,363 Thanked: 7,504 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (7)	Hey, I've noticed the body roll in tight corners. Can you explain how the larger wheels with same overall diameter will cut down body roll?
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13th July 2005, 01:34	#64
Buffetfan Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 1,130 Thanked: 216 Times	there will be less tyre flex on teh sidewall and hence less of unsettlement on the body of car.....note that a soft suspension increases body roll and same will be the case with soft sidewall in the tyre... Last edited by Buffetfan : 13th July 2005 at 01:35.
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13th July 2005, 02:02	#65
balenopower BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 956 Thanked: 467 Times View My Garage	15 inchers???? hey guys saw the tyre talk goin on....well im needin some help too. now wht im doin at the moment is upgrading my stock rims and tyres...but there's a catch cant afford both alloys and tyres together now:(.so wht the tyrewala told me was upgrade to 195/r14 brgstons/eaglef1/falken any one of em.for the rim he's gonna provide me with 14 inch rims of a different car take a deposit for them and gimme the money back when i put the alloys from him....now should i go ahead with this or not????? the second part-- i heard from a lot of guys that if i go in for 15 inchers the suspension neeeds some extra mods and also the cars gonna crash over potholes because of the lesser suspension travel.....now thts got me even more confused about teh 15 inchers....wht do i do??? Last edited by balenopower : 13th July 2005 at 02:18.
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13th July 2005, 10:10	#66
observer BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 92 Thanked: 0 Times	Buffetfan, V1p3r, thank you for the information. Now I know what combination is right, will be able to decide well. But, what is body roll
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13th July 2005, 11:01	#67
iceman91 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: melbourne/banga Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 36 Times View My Garage	body roll is when the car tends to flex a bit...due to bad tires or suspension..in corners
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13th July 2005, 11:04	#68
Revvhead BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 447 Thanked: 21 Times View My Garage	Body roll- very simply put, when you turn into a corner, esp very hard (read fast) the body of the car tends to sway, one end rolls(dives) towards the ground and one end away, Now this is obviously not fun for the occupants as it gives a feeling of instabilty actually it is a sign of instability, as after a point, at the limit of the body roll, the wheels on that side will tend to lift off. So the stiffer the car is, the less body roll you will have, the better your cornering and handling will be and the lesser the chanceof turning over! Hope thats good enough!
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13th July 2005, 11:10	#69
CaliforniaKnight BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: IND + DXB Posts: 981 Thanked: 293 Times View My Garage	Guyz theres a black baleno in koramangala with a mesh grill and 17 inch alloy wheels..yeah 17 INCH..the Regn number being 15.Has anyone seen this baleno or does it belong to anyone in Team-BHP.
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13th July 2005, 11:12	#70
iceman91 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: melbourne/banga Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 36 Times View My Garage	...belongs to a friend...a sardarji...sweet car...teh wheels are a lambo lookalike
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13th July 2005, 11:16	#71
mohit BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Toronto / Kurukshetra Posts: 677 Thanked: 168 Times	yeah saw this in the Forum parking lot....... had the Jo Bole So Nihal tagline on the back - No if no but... sirf Jatt! Huge wheels man!
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13th July 2005, 11:24	#72
CaliforniaKnight BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: IND + DXB Posts: 981 Thanked: 293 Times View My Garage	[quote=iceman91...sweet car...teh wheels are a lambo lookalike[/QUOTE] exactly..a Lambo lookalike..
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13th July 2005, 16:55	#73
shobhit15 BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Noida Posts: 222 Thanked: 11 Times	Hi Guys. I was quoted the following price for the accessories for Baleno LXI by a local dealer in Noida. Do you mind advising whether he is overcharging on something ? 1. Power Antenna - 750/- No warranty 2. RearSpoiler - 1500/- (Including painting and fitting) - No warranty 3. Keyless System with alarm - Autocop for Rs.3200/- (includes ignition block) - 3 yr warranty 4. Music System - I want one which can play CD and Cassette and FM/AM (Double Dean). He suggested several ones as follows. All prices are exclusive of speakers. a. Sony - Rs 15,000 b. Pioneer - Rs 12,000 c. JVC - Rs 8,000 I want to know which is the best music system I should go for. My limit is 12,000 without speakers. Also please suggest me which speakers should I buy ? I do not need very high wattage. Just average ones. But the quality and clarity should be good.
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