Power Horns!

Wolffe · 27th April 2009, 21:28

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Originally Posted by ImmortalZ

The dudes at Honda threw away (into my trunk) the plastic shelled relay that came with the Nautilus. They used a solid metal 3inch wide one in it's place. It looks, feels, and sounds like the relays from old Ambys.

I dropped the bundled one on the floor and it came apart. Looked quite puny, to be honest.

From what I've seen,the guys who install the Nautilus dump the in-box Stebel relay for something they use always-usually a metal PMP make relay or plastic sealed relay which can handle the load(In my case it was a sealed relay usually used on the Sumo-so it will definitely handle the load).

My question-shouldn't we trust the relay supplied in the box-made by the manufacturer?Wouldn't he have done R&D on the relay before supplying it with the horn?

ImmortalZ · 27th April 2009, 21:56

Well, these things are made in Italy for Italian conditions (as in, use the horn once a month). Maybe our conditions are too demanding? Would explain why a Nautilus will conk in a year, on average.

Cyberpirate · 27th April 2009, 22:30

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Originally Posted by Wolffe

I have PMed you the details.

Thx wolffe.. i guess i'll be going there tomorrow or the day after...
@Rj555 thanks to you too dude..

Wolffe · 28th April 2009, 09:48

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Originally Posted by ImmortalZ

Well, these things are made in Italy for Italian conditions (as in, use the horn once a month). Maybe our conditions are too demanding? Would explain why a Nautilus will conk in a year, on average.

Makes sense-I was using the Nautilus as my daily horn-now has conked exactly after a year-coincidence?Am taking it to the horn repair guys to have it checked before I buy a new one.

RJ555 · 28th April 2009, 10:17

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Originally Posted by Wolffe

I had fixed my Zen with Stebel GP2 series and the relay that came in the box.One evening in peak hour traffic the relay jammed and the horn went off-full blast.All on the road turned around to see the driver whose horn got jammed-so was the cop.Quickly popped the hood-pulled out the wires to the horn and drove off before the cop could get his hands on me.Later replaced the Stebel relay with a PMP cutout-worked fine after that.
I just realised yesterday that my Fiesta with the Nautilus air horn has been fitted without the relay-so back on OE horns till I get the relay and switch done.
Question for the gurus-with the experience of the stock Stebel relay getting jammed-what do I use for my car now?Bosch relay,PMP cutout or the Stebel relay?

RJ555-have you fixed the Nautilus series on your ride?What fuse was used?Thanks.

the same one that came with he box packing. is that worth to trust?

amit_mechengg · 28th April 2009, 11:05

i had just posted yesterday that my nautilus had gone kaput. i tried to check the horn by pulling it a bit outwards from the front grill to check whether the trumphets are dirty. in this process the wire came out of the horn lugs.
somehow i managed to put the wire back. the horn is installed in such a position behind the front bumper that you can hardly see the wiring.

and voila, the horn came back to its full life

. it was such a relief for me.

Cyberpirate · 29th April 2009, 00:01

hey wolffe. i just got the horn form that Victory automobiles for 750/- and it turns out that my dad has the same horn on his Octavia. anyways thanks dude. n by the by i think i saw your car today near gemini by 1.30am, not sure if it was your car though. i saw a grey fiesta with the same kind of DIY wheels that you have done.

Wolffe · 29th April 2009, 09:59

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Originally Posted by Cyberpirate

hey wolffe. i just got the horn form that Victory automobiles for 750/- and it turns out that my dad has the same horn on his Octavia. anyways thanks dude. n by the by i think i saw your car today near gemini by 1.30am, not sure if it was your car though. i saw a grey fiesta with the same kind of DIY wheels that you have done.

You are welcome.Please make sure you get the wiring done properly with relay and fuse.Happy honking!
I was at home pretty much yesterday-so it couldn't have been at Gemini.Anyways my signature is a decal on my rear windscreen-so if you see me someplace-honk.

Cyberpirate · 29th April 2009, 10:48

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Originally Posted by Wolffe

You are welcome.Please make sure you get the wiring done properly with relay and fuse.Happy honking!
I was at home pretty much yesterday-so it couldn't have been at Gemini.Anyways my signature is a decal on my rear windscreen-so if you see me someplace-honk.

sorry that was a typo

. i meant by 10.30 in the morning. i saw this car from a distance and i could see only the side. ok anyways will see you then.

sabret00the · 30th April 2009, 00:59

can anyone tell me which horn is provided as OEM with the ALTO? Does changing the horn impact the battery in anyway?

suv100 · 30th April 2009, 19:57

Hi guys

My three trumpet air horn motor seems to work but there doesn't seem to be much air coming out. My mechanic says its because of the scratches caused by the mica 'fliers' or what ever you call it inside the air chamber. Could this be a reason? Is there any way to fix this? Another thing is there any way to clean the sealed trumpets of the horn?

bottle · 5th May 2009, 19:00

joined the club too

kums · 6th May 2009, 01:45

Fixed the Roots Windtone 90 horn - pair with relay + 2way switch for using oem horns also.It cost me 485 bucks for the horn alone. A great voice upgrade indeed for my i10

for highways,suburbs and even city ( for the dumb autos,buses).
This horn draws 5.0 amps(other windtone horns - 4.0amps) and has a modest 112db output.I found it slightly louder than other horns in this series, so i went for it.

Wolffe · 6th May 2009, 10:48

To all the owners of the Stebel Nautilus horn-please be careful with the plastic clip(refer attachment) which holds the trumpet and the motor together.My horn specialist broke it while adding oil-the horn sounded like a dying moose after that.
Took it to Pudupet to have it checked and then found out that the plastic clip holding the trumpet and the motor is integral in making sure no air leaks out-which is why my horn sounded dead.The guy later fitted an "O" ring making the connection airtight-now my horn is back to blasting at 139db.
IMHO-if it ain't broke,don't try to fix it.

ankitahuja · 6th May 2009, 12:01

This clip WILL break if you try to open the horn, Wolffe. I've seen mine and plenty!

It's made in such a way so that probably no one can open the horn without breaking it.

27th April 2009, 21:56	#632
ImmortalZ Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 2,192 Thanked: 602 Times View My Garage	Well, these things are made in Italy for Italian conditions (as in, use the horn once a month). Maybe our conditions are too demanding? Would explain why a Nautilus will conk in a year, on average.
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28th April 2009, 11:05	#636
amit_mechengg Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 2,488 Thanked: 2,263 Times View My Garage	i had just posted yesterday that my nautilus had gone kaput. i tried to check the horn by pulling it a bit outwards from the front grill to check whether the trumphets are dirty. in this process the wire came out of the horn lugs. somehow i managed to put the wire back. the horn is installed in such a position behind the front bumper that you can hardly see the wiring. and voila, the horn came back to its full life . it was such a relief for me.
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29th April 2009, 00:01	#637
Cyberpirate BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: India>Chennai Posts: 44 Thanked: 5 Times	hey wolffe. i just got the horn form that Victory automobiles for 750/- and it turns out that my dad has the same horn on his Octavia. anyways thanks dude. n by the by i think i saw your car today near gemini by 1.30am, not sure if it was your car though. i saw a grey fiesta with the same kind of DIY wheels that you have done.
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30th April 2009, 00:59	#640
sabret00the BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: YYC \| BLR \| CCU Posts: 691 Thanked: 55 Times View My Garage	can anyone tell me which horn is provided as OEM with the ALTO? Does changing the horn impact the battery in anyway?
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30th April 2009, 19:57	#641
suv100 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Calicut Posts: 136 Thanked: 30 Times	Hi guys My three trumpet air horn motor seems to work but there doesn't seem to be much air coming out. My mechanic says its because of the scratches caused by the mica 'fliers' or what ever you call it inside the air chamber. Could this be a reason? Is there any way to fix this? Another thing is there any way to clean the sealed trumpets of the horn?
	() Thanks

5th May 2009, 19:00	#642
bottle Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,641 Thanked: 295 Times View My Garage	joined the club too Last edited by bottle : 5th May 2009 at 19:01.
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6th May 2009, 01:45	#643
kums BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: chennai Posts: 48 Thanked: 7 Times	Fixed the Roots Windtone 90 horn - pair with relay + 2way switch for using oem horns also.It cost me 485 bucks for the horn alone. A great voice upgrade indeed for my i10 for highways,suburbs and even city ( for the dumb autos,buses). This horn draws 5.0 amps(other windtone horns - 4.0amps) and has a modest 112db output.I found it slightly louder than other horns in this series, so i went for it.
	() Thanks

6th May 2009, 10:48	#644
Wolffe BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Motorcity Madras Posts: 169 Thanked: 5 Times View My Garage	Careful To all the owners of the Stebel Nautilus horn-please be careful with the plastic clip(refer attachment) which holds the trumpet and the motor together.My horn specialist broke it while adding oil-the horn sounded like a dying moose after that. Took it to Pudupet to have it checked and then found out that the plastic clip holding the trumpet and the motor is integral in making sure no air leaks out-which is why my horn sounded dead.The guy later fitted an "O" ring making the connection airtight-now my horn is back to blasting at 139db. IMHO-if it ain't broke,don't try to fix it. Attached Thumbnails
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6th May 2009, 12:01	#645
ankitahuja BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 929 Thanked: 99 Times View My Garage	This clip WILL break if you try to open the horn, Wolffe. I've seen mine and plenty! It's made in such a way so that probably no one can open the horn without breaking it.
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