ARTICLE: Synthetic oil vs Mineral oil

Surprise · 16th May 2007, 18:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surprise

I had switched over to Synthetic oil during last service (3.6k for 4 litres of Mobil 1 oil). Service person has told that Mobil 1 can carry for another 20000 kms. But read somewhere in this forum that its needs to be changed every 7500 kms.

Manufacturer recommendation is of at servicing 10k kms. Hence the regular mineral oil itself can carry for 10k kms. Hence I have a question whether really synthetic oil needs to be changed at 7.5k kms or it can carry till 20k kms. please clarify

Had done more than 500 kms after switching over to synthetic oil (thanks to this thread). Vehicle has a smoother run upon conversion. Wanted to ensure that iam not clouded due to continious following up of this thread & asked another friend of mine to try it out for a day. He replied back " NO, I DONT FEEL ANY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TWO".

Even then Iam happy with the results, which is more important.

speedonline · 24th May 2007, 18:11

Hey i want to how how is Valvoline Durablend, has anybody used it ?? I think its aviable for about 850 for about 4l.

Any thoughts on the oil

swathyd · 25th May 2007, 00:29

Is it synthetic or mineral.

rr_zen · 25th May 2007, 02:44

I dont think anyone sells synthetic oil at the rate of Rs 850 for 4 litres. Guess it should be mineral oil only.

speedonline · 25th May 2007, 10:13

The oils is supposed to be a blended synthetic and mineral oil.

The link has more information:
Synthetic Blend Motor Oil

tsk1979 · 25th May 2007, 11:23

speed if you are worrying about high cost of synthetic, a cheaper alternative for your swift is the Castrol EDGE synthetic oil(2000rs total).
If you don't want to spend much get the GTX magnetic for 700rs. If you bargain you can get it for 650rs too!

speedonline · 25th May 2007, 11:49

Hey Tsk, your are right about the cost factor. the reason i ask is i also want to know all the options aviable.

Tell me how is Valvoline as a brand as i am geting it for 350 for 900ml and i need about 3.3l.

I also want to know what grade i should use?

speed

tsk1979 · 25th May 2007, 12:07

No idea friend. But Valvoline is a big company. If its original it will be good. Go for it.
Make sure you get something which is of the highest grade
Petrol grades go like
SF, SG,... SJ SM.
Currently highest I have seen is SM
So get any SM oil and you should be happy.

speedonline · 25th May 2007, 12:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsk1979

No idea friend. But Valvoline is a big company. If its original it will be good. Go for it.
Make sure you get something which is of the highest grade
Petrol grades go like
SF, SG,... SJ SM.
Currently highest I have seen is SM
So get any SM oil and you should be happy.

Yup its original for sure as I contacted the Indian arm of Valvoline i.e. Valvoline Cummins and they gave me the details of the retail distributor.
Sorry in the earlier post I meant the viscosity of the oil i.e. 10W40 etc?

tsk1979 · 25th May 2007, 12:33

15W40 will be great
10W40 is good if you go to sub zero temparatures

Rahulk76 · 25th May 2007, 16:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by rb2399

Hindustan Oil Company-Shivaji Nagar,
Nirmal Traders- Shivajinagar,
Tupe lubricants- Nagar Road.

Just google for these & you'll get their phone numbers.
I got these from Castrol India rep.

Finally got hold of the castrol godown in PCMC (Castrol India) near dangia chowk
Mahesh: 9373324951, You can ask him about castrol oil you wanna buy

swathyd · 25th May 2007, 16:38

I am having an amby with matador engine, it is running on 20w-40(castrol crb+) which exceeds API CF - 4. I was planning to switch over to 15w 40(castrol gtd)spec-API CF-4. But a mechanic told me that i shouldnt do that as that grade of oil is for new generation diesel vehicles.

Castrol rx super max(API CF-4) and rx super plus(API CG-4/CH-4)(mostly recommended for euro iii) can also be considered, both has viscosity of 15w40.

Hoping a recommendation by experts present here.

sanjaymugur · 28th May 2007, 11:48

just changed engine oil in my PALIO 1.2 ELX to CASTROL edge 5W-40 @manipal motors, airport road bangalore. my car had done 4.5K on odo. used Bardhal engine oil flush & ran the engine at idle for 20 mins & then flushed before filling CASTROL EDGE. have run some 200kms since then.. engine runs smoother & has become responsive.. don't feel the guilt when revving the engine..

next time planning to go to motul 8100 excess synthetic oil..

swathyd · 28th May 2007, 15:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsk1979

No idea friend. But Valvoline is a big company. If its original it will be good. Go for it.
Make sure you get something which is of the highest grade
Petrol grades go like
SF, SG,... SJ SM.
Currently highest I have seen is SM
So get any SM oil and you should be happy.

Is there any grade like SL

Floyd de Souza · 5th June 2007, 18:19

Yes there is SL grade which came before SM grade.

24th May 2007, 18:11	#302
speedonline BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Delhi Posts: 46 Thanked: 0 Times	Hey i want to how how is Valvoline Durablend, has anybody used it ?? I think its aviable for about 850 for about 4l. Any thoughts on the oil
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25th May 2007, 00:29	#303
swathyd BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: thiruvananthapuram Posts: 774 Thanked: 25 Times	Is it synthetic or mineral.
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25th May 2007, 02:44	#304
rr_zen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 1,799 Thanked: 400 Times View My Garage	I dont think anyone sells synthetic oil at the rate of Rs 850 for 4 litres. Guess it should be mineral oil only.
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25th May 2007, 10:13	#305
speedonline BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Delhi Posts: 46 Thanked: 0 Times	The oils is supposed to be a blended synthetic and mineral oil. The link has more information: Synthetic Blend Motor Oil
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25th May 2007, 11:23	#306
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	speed if you are worrying about high cost of synthetic, a cheaper alternative for your swift is the Castrol EDGE synthetic oil(2000rs total). If you don't want to spend much get the GTX magnetic for 700rs. If you bargain you can get it for 650rs too!
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25th May 2007, 11:49	#307
speedonline BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Delhi Posts: 46 Thanked: 0 Times	Hey Tsk, your are right about the cost factor. the reason i ask is i also want to know all the options aviable. Tell me how is Valvoline as a brand as i am geting it for 350 for 900ml and i need about 3.3l. I also want to know what grade i should use? speed
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25th May 2007, 12:07	#308
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	No idea friend. But Valvoline is a big company. If its original it will be good. Go for it. Make sure you get something which is of the highest grade Petrol grades go like SF, SG,... SJ SM. Currently highest I have seen is SM So get any SM oil and you should be happy.
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25th May 2007, 12:33	#310
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	15W40 will be great 10W40 is good if you go to sub zero temparatures
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25th May 2007, 16:38	#312
swathyd BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: thiruvananthapuram Posts: 774 Thanked: 25 Times	I am having an amby with matador engine, it is running on 20w-40(castrol crb+) which exceeds API CF - 4. I was planning to switch over to 15w 40(castrol gtd)spec-API CF-4. But a mechanic told me that i shouldnt do that as that grade of oil is for new generation diesel vehicles. Castrol rx super max(API CF-4) and rx super plus(API CG-4/CH-4)(mostly recommended for euro iii) can also be considered, both has viscosity of 15w40. Hoping a recommendation by experts present here. Last edited by swathyd : 25th May 2007 at 16:51.
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28th May 2007, 11:48	#313
sanjaymugur BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 262 Thanked: 57 Times	just changed engine oil in my PALIO 1.2 ELX to CASTROL edge 5W-40 @manipal motors, airport road bangalore. my car had done 4.5K on odo. used Bardhal engine oil flush & ran the engine at idle for 20 mins & then flushed before filling CASTROL EDGE. have run some 200kms since then.. engine runs smoother & has become responsive.. don't feel the guilt when revving the engine.. next time planning to go to motul 8100 excess synthetic oil..
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5th June 2007, 18:19	#315
Floyd de Souza BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 320 Thanked: 225 Times	Yes there is SL grade which came before SM grade.
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