[rishavch2104]

Originally Posted by davelok

Try changing the fuel. I'm using XP95 now and the stalling has reduced significantly. (but it stalled twice at traffic signals last evening).

Also have you noticed any increase in mileage/performance after switching?

[NEMatters]

I have completed more than 18k kms on Scrambler, and yes I had this issue of stalling every now and then.

I too suspect that issue get addressed to some extent with change of fuel. If you use E20 it stalls less, if you use Power / XP95, it stalls lesser. And when you go to normal petrol it might stall more.

I cautiously use E20 at an HP outlet most of the time, and yes it stalls very few times, however when on a trip I try to fill up premium petrol to get a bit better mileage (usually around 2 kmpl more) and might help in keeping the engine cleaner as well. However sometimes when there is no option - I go with the normal petrol.

I would rather say I got used to it now.

[davelok]

Originally Posted by rishavch2104

Also have you noticed any increase in mileage/performance after switching?

No, my fuel economy is an abysmal 26kmpl. I only have a short, 6-7km run one way on my commute through city streets with some traffic. The Distance To Empty is as unreliable as ever, with the number dropping from 200km to 160km in a matter of minutes.

[rishavch2104]

Originally Posted by akkitheaviator

One thing is for sure now - my next bike will not be from Triumph or Bajaj

I had a BS4 NS 200 before this. Hassle free ownership. Expected the same from triumph but disappointed. Been in the service center for 4 days. Now the SC guys are saying its stalling because of BMC air filter. Complete nonsense. Thinking of raising a complaint in Triumph India app.

Originally Posted by davelok

No, my fuel economy is an abysmal 26kmpl. I only have a short, 6-7km run one way on my commute through city streets with some traffic. The Distance To Empty is as unreliable as ever, with the number dropping from 200km to 160km in a matter of minutes.

I get similar figures. I've completely stopped relying on DTE or fuel indicator. I just set the trip to zero when I fill the tank and refil when it crosses 200/250.

Originally Posted by NEMatters

I have completed more than 18k kms on Scrambler, and yes I had this issue of stalling every now and then.
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I would rather say I got used to it now.

The problem in my case is I live in a hilly area and the bike has stalled during downshifts while going up/down inclines. That has been quite risky.

[nasirkaka]

Originally Posted by nasirkaka

Couple of weeks back, I tried the injector cleaner.
I bought a brand called MANNOL, as suggested by a BHPian friend.

As the injector cleaner couple with Shell petrol did not solve the stalling issue, I gave the bike to service center @ Khivraj, electronic city, Bangalore, to look into the same.

I clearly told them that my main issue is stalling of the bike. I also insisted on complete oil change, air filter and oil filter change, as the bike had done around 8.5k kms.

Post the service, its been close to 5 days of bike usage and so far it is stalled only once. Earlier, in a day, it use to stall 4-5 times. So there is definitely improvement, lets see how long this holds.

On asking, they said they have checked the standard parameters, ECU updates etc but we can only go by their word.

They also said the rear brake pads were gone and replaced with a new one for 203Rs. The new rear brake pads did not have any bite initially and after using it for 5 days, there is some amount of bite. But still the rear braking is only about 70% of what it was before giving it for service.

Overall I am glad there is much reduction in stalling and hope it stays that way.

[rishavch2104]

Originally Posted by nasirkaka

But still the rear braking is only about 70% of what it was before giving it for service.

Overall I am glad there is much reduction in stalling and hope it stays that way.

Glad to see someone here got the issue resolved. My guess would be it was a combination of the better fuel plus the ecu updates. They might have even cleaned the throttle body and fuel pump. Also about the rear brake, new pads require some break in time since the surface is completely smooth for new ones. Be a bit careful and it should break in within some time.

[xeder]

Hey guys,

After the first service of my scrambler, when I push it to around 4500 rpm on 4th gear, there's a distinct ringing sound that is very annoying. Did anyone else also notice this or is it only on mine? This goes away when I push it past 5000-5500 rpm or if I shift to another gear. Any input is appreciated.

[NEMatters]

Originally Posted by rishavch2104

Glad to see someone here got the issue resolved. My guess would be it was a combination of the better fuel plus the ecu updates. They might have even cleaned the throttle body and fuel pump. Also about the rear brake, new pads require some break in time since the surface is completely smooth for new ones. Be a bit careful and it should break in within some time.

Yup! most probably a combination of few things. I still have this issue, however I learned to live with it now, fill up premium petrol and it is better for sure.

Want to give a quick update, my ODO currently stands at around 18200 kms. Overall I am quite satisfied with the bike.

Pros:
- The engine is smooth now, even at 120kmpl, I don't feel much vibes, they are a bit more pronounced at around 85 and 100 kmpl, and then smoothens out.

- FE is decent I would say: around 22- 24kmpl in Bengalore City and around 28 to 32 on highways. (Depends on speed you are riding at, I usually go around 110 to 120 on good roads with clear visibility)

- The suspension is good, absorbs everything I throw at it. Mind you I don't do hardcore off-roading.

- Quite reliable for me: Did many long rides Bengaluru to Goa, Bengaluru to Nagpur, Bengaluru to Pune all 1 day rides, and the bike just performed without concerns. Got completely drenched (with raincoat of course) and ridden in heavy rains as well without any electronic glitches.

Cons:

- The dreaded stalling issue is still hovering around, after so many ECU updates. I am living with it now, but it is less pronounced with E20 fuel and with premium fuel as well

- Usual cons, headlights are poor (have aux lights installed), horn is poor (replaced with a dual horn)

Few pointers:

- Air filter needs to be replaced every 5 to 6k kms.

- Chain sprocket lasted for 14k kms for me (I think I rode without lubing the chain in rains quite often)

- There is a issue of sprocket bearing at 18k (Chain was creating tick-tick sound when in low speeds)

- Changed to sintered front brake pads at around 5k kms and till 18k kms, no change so far - they can last maybe 3k kms more. The rear brake pads gone at 18k kms went for non sintered ones.

- I plan to replace engine oil and filter every 8k kms (just a preventive measure) compared to company recommened 16k interval.

- The gear shifts are nice and smooth now, compared to what they were when new.

That's her on a trip..





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[rishavch2104]

Need help with deciding on tyres for Scrambler 400x. Have shortlisted Reise tourR and Apollo tramplr. However I am not sure about the impact of downsizing the rear tyre. Any inputs are appreciated.

[NEMatters]

Originally Posted by rishavch2104

Need help with deciding on tyres for Scrambler 400x. Have shortlisted Reise tourR and Apollo tramplr. However I am not sure about the impact of downsizing the rear tyre. Any inputs are appreciated.

I think you have the main contenders listed, other than OEM you can compare stock vs these sizes and take a call, as far as I remember you would get front easily, however for rear you might end up compromising to 130 section instead of 140 stock.

Not much impact in terms of speed at 80 you would read 78. And since the speedo already shows around 10 kmph more, it's infact closer.

In terms of grip, I would still say it depends on tyre compound more than the section, unless you are cornering really hard on a track, you might not feel the difference.

[400Xrider]

I tried to clean and lube the chain today. It was an absolute pain to do without a center stand. Any recommendations on a good paddock stand?

[rishavch2104]

Originally Posted by NEMatters

however for rear you might end up compromising to 130 section instead of 140 stock.

Not much impact in terms of speed at 80 you would read 78. And since the speedo already shows around 10 kmph more, it's infact closer.

In terms of grip, I would still say it depends on tyre compound more than the section, unless you are cornering really hard on a track, you might not feel the difference.

Apart from speed, would there be any difference in handling etc? Also if I'm correct, downsizing would reduce the seat height as well.

[sole_rider]

Originally Posted by 400Xrider

I tried to clean and lube the chain today. It was an absolute pain to do without a center stand. Any recommendations on a good paddock stand?

I don't have a recommendation to give now but here's a useful tip to keep in mind. - Since your bike lacks a threaded hole on the swingarm for a paddock bobbin, look for a paddock stand that has an L shape support. Also make sure the L shape support/attachment don't rotate on the paddock.
I have a Zana made paddock which has both these attachments - L shaped one as well as the support for the swingarm spool. The former keeps rotating on the mount so putting the bike on that attachment is even more pain. Whereas the swingarm spool support is a breeze to use.

[NEMatters]

Originally Posted by rishavch2104

Apart from speed, would there be any difference in handling etc? Also if I'm correct, downsizing would reduce the seat height as well.

Yes the diameter of wheel would reduce by 16 mm. Have a look. Comparing 140/80/17 with 130/80/17

[nasirkaka]

Originally Posted by 400Xrider

I tried to clean and lube the chain today. It was an absolute pain to do without a center stand. Any recommendations on a good paddock stand?

I use a simple home-made snap-jack type device and its a breeze to clean and lube the chain. Had shared some detailed pics of the same which is captured in the below thread.

https://www.team-bhp.com/news/simple...er-400xs-chain