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| ![]() Good, detailed review. Kudos What is the expected Bangalore OTR price of the car? No variant differences at all? If so, would you consider the car well optioned? Wouldnt mind trading my Jazz for an eHEV Jazz for the city! If they ever release it at a decent price point. Last edited by sridhu : 2nd May 2022 at 14:10. |
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| ![]() A very nicely written and detailed review. However, it is not clear whether the car will be in hybrid mode or engine mode between 80 kmph and 120 kmph. I expect when the ICE gets directly engaged with the wheels (above 80kmph), the electric motor/battery pack should disengage. Sorry if I am just missing something. |
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| ![]() We are looking for a replacement for our 2011 SX4 and had booked the City Hybrid online. Boot space is very important to us and 300 litres seem awfully less! I checked online and it shows even the WagonR as having 341 litres boot space. Will probably have to check it in person. On a related note, the SA at Dakshin Honda (Lavelle Road) has informed that test drives for the hybrid will most likely start from next week. Hopefully, I will have better clarity once I get a test drive |
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| ![]() A good car that makes quite a bit of sense in the city (provided the prices make sense). It's a proper Hybrid, on a car that pretty much defines the sedan segment. A lot of people might actually buy it for the e-HEV tag as a show off. One question - Does this car qualify for green number plates? I'm sure it is not, but I think it should. |
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| ![]() Does the Li-on battery pack extend further front or is it the size as shown in the picture. Any idea whats the Kwh of the battery. We know the voltage, which is still a good info. Was the surface temperature of the battery hot to touch, is it liquid cooled or passive air cooled. Some how I got a bad feeling with regard to the potential price mark up. Last edited by aim120 : 2nd May 2022 at 15:54. |
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The engine runs in fixed RPM, powering the generator, which is more efficient than running wheels. When hybrid drive detects that running the wheels directly using engine is more efficient it changes to that mode. You can get more detailed working principle in the below video. | |
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| ![]() I read the battery pack size is 0.78kwh, which is almost 1/4th on the Ather scooter, why the pack looks so large, also I believe it should not weigh more than 10kg(including if any cooling added). Quote:
In hybrid mode, the clutch is disengaged, in this mode mechanical energy to electrical and back to mechanical conversion happens, also battery gets charged of the excess energy. Quote:
Hybrid mode: Generator connected to Drive motor electrically through electric wires. Engine mode: Generator connected to drive motor mechanically through clutch. Last edited by SKC-auto : 2nd May 2022 at 16:47. | ||
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But its not just that, in this mad crunch for semi conductor chips they have gone ahead and added all the tech wizardry they could possibly imagine. | |
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| ![]() What is the fixation with 0 to 100 numbers? I mean when does one really drive the car this way? |
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Distinguished - BHPian ![]() ![]() | ![]() Lovely, detailed review, Viddy ! one comment looking at the specs: this looks like a Sedan with the boot of a hatchback ! Big downer that, considering that many of us buy a sedan also for the boot-space sedans offer. |
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| ![]() Excellent review. All the news focus is on the Hybrid area and rightly so, but I love the 'Sense' suite and it is nice to know the global suite is making its way here. Mahindra made huge marketing noise in XUV700 and hope Honda differentiates this 'Hybrid' variant with these features as well when they reveal the 'sticker' shock. In one of the rear interior pictures, isn't the center rear seat cum arm rest becomes too low and slanted down to touche the seat itself or is it the case with other Sedans as well? Overall, I think this will be a good alternative for people especially in Delhi NCR region who are looking for a Diesel Sedan with daily higher mileage (100+ Kms). |
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Team-BHP Support ![]() | ![]() Although the car looks like a slightly embellished City, it was totally different to drive than a petrol car yet alone a hybrid. Some of my personal observations: The first thing you realise when you slot the gear into D or R, the City does not creep, it moves with vigour. While positioning the car for the photoshoots, I spent more time modulating the brakes as opposed the throttle. Driving in Town - it behave like a normal hybrid, the EV mode slips in and out. It was very quiet and refined, It tries to remain in EV model where possible. The battery charge level never went beyond 50% despite a highway run where it could be charged Highway – As long as you are cruising, it is very calm and serene, power transitions are seamless . Above 72km/h when it slips into the final drive, it becomes very linear to drive and feels normal. The fun starts when you try driving it like an enthusiast or a yob. It turns into an alien We were pressing hard on rural roads in order to make it in time for a technical session. If one floored it, the car would increase speed progressively and the engine would scream but there was no correlation between throttle and speed. During some high speed corners, one's instinct is to throttle steer or lift off in order to balance the car. The City would not respond, it took the corners like a driverless train. The weight in the rear and stiffer springs help. I would have loved to have explored the level of adhesion but not on public roads. (Errm, lets say the it outdid a Civic!) Cut and Thrust City Driving - It makes the cut without the thrust, it calmly teleports itself into a gap and can respond to aggressive steering inputs at low speeds. Your Aural-Foot co-ordination will be challenged for a while but as long as you are a mere commuter, this car is perfect. As I have been telling folks - its been like dating an alien! Quote:
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