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| ![]() that's what i saw ,but could not confirm by comparing a zdi and vdi alongside |
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please go through this doc. it might be helpful to you. Last edited by GTO : 2nd February 2012 at 20:09. Reason: Correcting quote. And please do NOT use SMS language on this forum | |
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| ![]() One of my friends had booked a Swift VDI a couple of weeks back and since I've heard of that I've also notified him of this particular issue. He hadn’t tried a TD on a VDI so I told him to do so ASAP. Now here’s the funny part. He mentioned to the dealership that he came to know from Team-BHP that people who have got their cars are complaining about their brakes and guess what they told him. They said that couldn’t be possible since ABS only kicks in after 100+ ![]() Nevertheless, I told him to go and do a TD. His only worry is the waiting period for the ZDI. Money wasn’t a problem. He was willing to stretch for the ZDI, it’s the 8 months waiting period that drove him away. If the brakes are as weak as everybody here is suggesting he’d be in a dilemma. Does anybody know what percentage of the average 20,000 units that gets sold a month are VDI’s and ZDI’s? Are people shying away from the VDI because of this particular issue? |
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The sales personnel's lack of ABS knowledge is appalling. He probably thinks even the L and V variants have ABS. My guess is the Zdi-Vdi ratio is approx in the 1:8 to 1:10 range. It's the lower production of ZDis which is mainly contributing to this IMO. The price and lead time are other factors. Last edited by fuel_addict : 10th April 2012 at 23:05. | |
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| ![]() Does this problem also exist in the Dzire Vxi? Has anyone had any success in resolving/working around this problem? |
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BHPian ![]() | ![]() We own a Swift Zxi in my family and my friend owns a desire zxi, however i haven't faced any challange with our swift even after 50k nor did my friend. I never knew an average person would need to learn breaking techniques and styles to drive a car that is diesel and not petrol. This sounds absurd to me! ![]() Why wouldn't you be able to get maruti to upgrade your cars breaking system or whatever that is called so it can remain under warranty and you can use the car to it's potential? Atleast you will have some peace of mind while driving, can't imagine how you do these trips with your family in a car which doesn't give you the confidence of breaking? ![]() |
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But, braking issues for even the old Swift ( Diesel ) is reported on the current thread. It's a known weak point of the Swift which otherwise is a fantastic driver's car. | |
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| ![]() Spot on, only difference is that it was not so vociferously expressed on this forum. I was one of those old swift diesel owners, who kept complaining about the brakes on my car, inspite of getting the booster upgrade/change done on my car. Braking was never a strong point on the diesel swift and never confidence inspiring. Since I regularly drive other cars which had much better braking efficiency, this was all the more visible to me and I couldnt get used to it. Quote:
THE main reason why I sold my 3 year old swift diesel with only 38k on the odo. It was a fantastic car in all other counts. | |
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After nearly two months of communication, nothing much changed. Except I crossed 5,000 KMs and service. Certainly I can say the breaking is not good enough, even in ZDI(which I own). Old Swift had much better breaking capability. Now need to look out for how to improve, may be better and wider tyre ( i am running on OEM tyres, MRF zvts) and/or improved non-oem break pads. | |
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BHPian ![]() | ![]() My issue is a little different. At times, at low speeds the brakes becomes very hard. The engine is less than 1000 rpm, speed at 10 km/hr and in 1st gear with half clutch, the brake pedel becomes very hard. I had to press the clutch fully for the brakes to become effective once again. It is scary while taking reverse as the brakes become totally ineffective during such time. I own a Vxi and have upgraded to 185 70 R14 tyres. Can anyone confirm if they have a similar issue? I talked to the SA and he did a TD to confirm that there isnt anything wrong with the brakes. |
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If brake assist feature is not supposed to be given on a non ABS equipped vehicle, then how come it was given in the non ABS L and V variants of the previous generation Swift? Why isn't it provided in the new gen vehicle? If this brake assist thingy is inside the brake booster i think swapping out the new Swift's booster with the old one's might get some bite back into the brakes. Just my thoughts. Last edited by Sankar : 13th May 2012 at 19:34. | |||
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I don't have a Swift yet, but i'm thinking of buying one. If it were me i would experiment with swapping out the brake booster with that of the prev generation Swift's (prolly prev gen Swift Diesel's) and see how it goes. Since this brake assist thingy is inside the brake booster i think it should work. I don't recommend playing with the car brakes, but this is what i would do if i find the brakes that bad in daily regular use. | |
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I have talked to Maruti A$$, most of them dont seem to understand the main issue. Anyways, I managed to get a few other people who have the same issue and got it tested which prompted MASS to send an technical report to maruti for further analysis. Waiting since last week to heard from Maruti. This issue is existant right from Lxi to Vxi and Zxi. | |
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