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| ![]() Quote: He means the car has ISI mudra? ![]() It would be great if the regulatory body concerned or the govt would come forward and make the car buying public aware of what tests/standards are in place and the rating of each car. I am sure that no passenger car would be allowed to be sold in India unless the vehicle meets these "standards"? SO if a maruti omni can meet these standards i honestly don't want to know more about the highest safety standards we have in place! Last edited by Sankar : 5th November 2014 at 10:15. | |
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Team-BHP Support ![]() ![]() | ![]() Quote: I hope he takes a leaf out of VW's book when they made airbags standard for all variants of the Polo when it failed to meet NCAP ratings. EDIT: On the other hand, the international Swift seems to have a rating of 5 stars: http://www.euroncap.com/results/suzu.../2010/403.aspx Last edited by moralfibre : 5th November 2014 at 10:15. | |
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If they are making the airbags as standard, would that mean they'll withdraw the XMS variant from their lineup? ABS is already available in XM variant. If this is true, it would be welcome news to the XMA buyers since they finally get a diesel automatic with safety kit. | ||
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| ![]() I think Mr. Bhat either flies or takes some other mode of transportation other than road to be saying cars don't reach such speeds here. I can't recollect the number of time i've been overtaken by a Alto/Swift at speeds well in excess of a 100 km/hr. So if the Swift gets 0 ratings at 64 km/h, I can't even imagine what would happen at speeds in excess of 100 km/hr. Being the leading manufacturer in our country,they should have atleast made safety features optional on all variants if not make them part of standard equipment. This attitude,though not new,is surely disappointing in 2014. I hope more an more are made aware of the safety ratings. Last edited by shashank.nk : 5th November 2014 at 10:47. |
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| ![]() Quote: Did any one tell him that the frontal offset crash test is conducted at 64 kmph? The only way to teach them a lesson would be stop buying their third rate crap in the same of fuel economy. Last edited by extreme_torque : 5th November 2014 at 11:23. | |
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| ![]() If he is talking about city driving conditions it is fairly rare to hit 60+ kmph in the city, ok. However there are long straight stretches (such as the adyar bridge, OMR etc in chennai) where that happens routinely. As for highways I'd love to see just how many people care about published speed limits there. I take that PR statement - and this from the industry body as well, parroting the same line - with a truckload of salt. Right now I'm just praying that while I will continue to drive carefully, I don't run headfirst into a drunk / out of control twit coming from the other side of the road. When that happens it's far better to be in an NCAP certified car than one that's failed NCAP ratings. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/b...w/45037615.cms |
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| ![]() Believe me this is all temporary. In today's world "news" like these last only few weeks creating a temporary disruption and life continues like it was soon afterwards. The points are clear: 1. Govt has to own the regulations sphere. Govt dictates literally what is safe enough to be allowed to be present and sold 2. Manufacturers will always try to improve their profit by reducing the costs. The limit is dictated by the Govt regulations 3. Buyers don't have a long term vision of events whose occurrence is very low, and the vision about consequences of those events is even less. Heck, they don't even acknowledge short events like losing control of vehicle while driving under influence. The only way to make this disruption permanent is rational govt regulations. |
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| ![]() Quote: I would say we should demand public apology from MSIL for the statement made. Of course, how would MSIL acknowledge the fact when it works hand-in-hand with bodies like these: Quote: Last edited by blue_pulsar : 5th November 2014 at 12:14. | ||
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| ![]() [quote=malq; The issue here is simple - I want to buy a lower variant but I want all the safety features, and Maruti is unable to give me that option on date. I have owned 2 Maruti Swift diesel cars, 2008, 2009, and sometimes drive a friend's 2012 Swift diesel. All three are VDi ABS. The quality drop is perceptible, and frankly, the best to drive even now is the 2008. Fully agree. I own a ZDi and the primary driver for the top model was definitely not the Nippon Integrated music system, Climate control or those alloys. My need for the top model was purely out of the need for ABS, Airbags and peace of mind knowing that the Z variant had better breaks. Imagine how much i would have saved without any of the other non value items that I did not care two hoots about anyways. ![]() |
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"One auto engineer described the situation by sketching two car body designs with identical perimeters, but one depicted internal gaps — missing body reinforcements. He worked three decades for Volkswagen and spent the last 10 years as an independent engineering consultant for big automakers. He asked that his name not be published for fear of losing contracts and benefits. "The secret of a car's body being able to withstand the crash test are the weld spots," he said. "Let's say this is a German car," he pointed to the gapless sketch. "It's really sophisticated. Nothing is missing." Then he pointed at the car made in Brazil, full of incomplete ink strokes. "The Brazilian version looks the same from the outside, but it's missing pieces," he said. "In one version they include the reinforcement, in the other they don't. What's of interest is the final shape. What's inside, nobody can see." http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ap-im...zil-are-deadly Last edited by john doe : 5th November 2014 at 13:12. | |
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BHPian ![]() | ![]() Many valid points throughout. Why can't they add ABS/Airbags atleast as an option to the lower variant? like how Swift/Ritz comes with/without ABS unit on VXI. wonder why not they add this option to LXI. Why we get these feature only on higher variant as a package? On the other side, Car manufacturing companies are business units, they are not some charitable institution to serve people. In today's world making money is the core mantra. When baby products and food products are diluted and mixed with poisonous substances to make more money, from where we are expecting car companies to voluntarily come up and add safety equipment to safeguard its user?. It is the responsibility of Government to govern these things. According to NCAP on NDTV show, Earlier even in Western countries, Car companies started looking over safety aspects only after Government's intervention. |
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