![]() | #346 | |
Senior - BHPian ![]() Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Chennai
Posts: 1,254
Thanked: 2,372 Times
| ![]() Quote:
| |
![]() |
|
![]() | #347 | |
BHPian ![]() Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Chennai
Posts: 171
Thanked: 129 Times
| ![]() Quote:
By the way please go through the images on the following link. The Swift has only the decorative plastic and inside the actual bumper contraption is missing. Compare this to another not-so-popular brand's car. This should be an eye opener to all those people "kitne deti hai" types and those who love only features and forget what is inside. http://www.rushlane.com/maruti-swift...ljIloSVbbeq.99 To quote verbatim from another forum, "Unlike Volkswagen, who had immediately stopped offering Polo without airbags after the test report by Global NCAP handed them 0 points last year, Maruti has replied saying that their car is safe and passes all tests laid down by Indian government. Maruti also adds that the crash test report will not affect sales of Swift, which averages at about 17,000 units every month. Yes, we too agree sales will not be affected. But what about passenger safety? Earlier today, in the light of recent crash test, reader Dileep Pazhanchery shared the images below. He says – See the front barrier of Maruti Swift for avoiding crashes, as compared to PXXXX. The one on Swift seems very thin, while the on PXXXX looks strong and sturdy. “Still I wonder why every one going for swift…….People doesnt need safety……After death what they will do with mileage,” he adds " Read more at http://www.rushlane.com/maruti-swift...ljIloSVbbeq.99 | |
![]() |
![]() | #348 |
Senior - BHPian ![]() Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: SG
Posts: 1,107
Thanked: 1,894 Times
| ![]() Okay time for some conspiracy theory. One day at the Indian headquarters of international consortium of European Car Makers. Top boss: Guys, why cant we see any growth in Indian sales when this is a big market? Guys: Sir, what to do people here are more obsessed with fuel efficiency and reliability than our core values of thud and heavy door. We have to make our cars more reliable and lighter. Top boss: No way. Our cars cant be reliable. Thats not our strength. Neither can we reduce weight. We will lose the only thing we are known for. Guys: Then sir it is difficult we have to shed a few inches or get Indians realise our cars are safer. Top Boss: Hey our friend global NCAP is also looking to enter india by having a test facility set up here. Lets see if we can work something out with them. Meanwhile at Global NCAP headquarters some where NCAP top boss: Guys we have been wanting to enter India for long now and I think we have just the opportunity for that. I have got a request from the consortium of European Car Makers that we test random cars from India to prove that the Consortium builds safer cars. They are sure that the top selling cars will prove to be unsafe and then to additionally bolster that claim, they want us to write to the others to withdraw the unsafe cars from market. It is a win win for us and the consortium. They will get a good shot in their arm, and the Mango man will believe that NCAP is here to help them. We may be able to set up a text facility in India. Maybe even get government funding for it! Guys at NCAP: Sir, we dont think it will work. Maruti is too strong a player. It is not advisale to take up enimity with Maruti if we want to do anything at all in India. Top boss at NCAP: Oh is it? Ok what we will do is, we wont mention Maruti. We will just write a letter to Nissan or any other manufacturer to withdraw their car. This will generate interest in the people, who will start looking up for our videos. They will realise that Maruti is no better and we would have got our point across without explicitly naming any big shots! Applause in the board room. Rest as they say is history. Disclaimer: This is purely in a lighter vein and intent was not to hurt any sentiments. (Sorry if it was not funny :P) Maruti has its strong points. I wish one of those were good safety. I am personally glad that whatever be the motives, these tests have atleast opened our eyes on one thing that India specific models are not as well built as the ones sold outside. My next car would be a VW unless I am convinced that Maruti and others have taken genuine steps to ensure same standards in india as in other countries. Last edited by vibbs : 7th November 2014 at 08:19. |
![]() | ![]() |
![]() | #349 | |
BHPian ![]() Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Somewhere in MH
Posts: 425
Thanked: 1,406 Times
| ![]() Quote:
Celerio's ZXi will just have additional bells and whistles compared to variants below it, so it doesn't make much of a difference when it comes to safety front unless you get ZXi (O). Only Wagon R comes with Dr.Airbag+ABS as option in VXi trim in that range but is a notch above 5 lacs. Hyundai Eon Sportz is just with Dr.Airbag for around 4.50 lacs. Is you friend in a hurry? If he can manage to wait for an year we will get base variants with Airbags + ABS. ![]() | |
![]() |
![]() | #350 | |
Senior - BHPian ![]() Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Chennai
Posts: 1,254
Thanked: 2,372 Times
| ![]() Quote:
![]() | |
![]() |
![]() | #351 |
BHPian ![]() Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Somewhere in MH
Posts: 425
Thanked: 1,406 Times
| ![]() |
![]() | ![]() |
![]() | #352 | |
BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Chennai
Posts: 778
Thanked: 541 Times
| ![]() Quote:
Its like choosing between Charybdis and Scylla ![]() One company takes customer's safety seriously but has absolute contempt for the customer as evidenced by the showroom and service standards, whereas the other excels at customer service but apparently couldn't care less about the life and limb of the customer. | |
![]() | ![]() |
![]() | #353 |
BHPian ![]() Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Trivandrum
Posts: 660
Thanked: 228 Times
| ![]() Withdraw all cars not just Datsun Go which does not have adequate safety rating. What do the car manufacturers think of Indians? Are we lab animals to do test? It's a shame that their focus is only on increasing sales numbers in India. |
![]() |
|
![]() | #354 |
BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Bhopal
Posts: 295
Thanked: 365 Times
| ![]() It is no surprise that Swift and the Datsun Go failed the test. Whats dissapointing is the way Maruti chose to dismiss the issue. The crash test was done at 64 kmph which according to Shri Manohar (VP marketing Maruti) is a very high speed not practical on indian roads. My two cents : 1. The crash test at 64 kmph is equivalent to a crash of two vehicles coming in opposite direction at 32 kmph. The relative velocity of a vehicle with respect to other is 32 + 32 = 64 kmph. Could someone please clear Mr Manohar's basic physics of relative velocity and apprise him that India does not has moonscape roads where their cars cannot even achieve speeds of 32 kmph. ![]() 2. The assembly line of the Swift which is exported is different than what is sold in India. Would someone from Maruti please elaborate what hanky panky is done to the car on the export version line to make it suitable for export markets. 3. Could someone from Maruti tell me why my life is cheaper than a european life. Or perhaps Suzuki sans sitting in japan think that we are more than a billion people so a few of us loosing our lives would only reduce pressure on our country's already limited resources. 4. I dont't know why our government wants to setup an independent crash test fascility. It takes years for a fascility to come to certain standard. The initial 5 years are just a learning period for the fascility. The modern expressways made in India are surely world class standards where speeds equivalent to European highways can be achieved. So why not simply adopt Euro safety standards and make it mandatory to get the car Euro NCAP certified. I do not know about others but me would take the Indian NCAP crash test rating with a pinch of salt given the chalta hai attitude in our system. I am sure most of the cars sold in our market will fail the crash tests be it with or without Air Bags. Till the time the consumer is made aware of importance of safety the car manufacturers will be laughing their way to the bank. ![]() |
![]() | ![]() |
![]() | #355 | |
BHPian ![]() Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Mumbai
Posts: 34
Thanked: 20 Times
| ![]() Quote:
I have known people who wouldnt even wear seatbelts in their car because they feel it 'restricts' them. Spending for airbags and ABS is a long shot for such folks, but that mindset will change soon when they see the value attached to these safety features. Manufacturers will respond to consumer demand, and as our automobile market matures, points like safety ratings willl increasingly become more prominent deciding factors, and car companies will sit up and pay attention. Acche din aane wale hain! | |
![]() |
![]() | #356 | |
BHPian ![]() Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Chennai
Posts: 171
Thanked: 129 Times
| ![]() Quote:
| |
![]() |
![]() | #357 | ||
Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() Quote:
Quote:
Ford Figo passed despite not having a driver airbag when the dummy’s head narrowly avoided hitting the steering wheel directly. - Source: http://www.globalncap.org/crash-test...rs-are-unsafe/ | ||
![]() | ![]() |
![]() | #358 | |
Distinguished - BHPian ![]() ![]() Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Delhi
Posts: 5,396
Thanked: 6,978 Times
| ![]() Quote:
![]() | |
![]() | ![]() |
![]() | #359 |
BHPian ![]() Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: KL
Posts: 924
Thanked: 1,108 Times
| ![]() Lol vibbs. That was funny indeed.. Good for a laugh! Though you said it as a joke and we take it that way, I wouldn't be surprised if many takes this theory seriously. It does give a valid reason to justify their "VFM" cars again. More confusing theories for an already confused market. Nice! ![]() Last edited by ajaypjayaraj : 7th November 2014 at 11:07. |
![]() | ![]() |
![]() | #360 | ||
BHPian ![]() Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: India
Posts: 637
Thanked: 677 Times
| ![]() Quote:
Also the only car which received passing stars is the VW Polo with 2 airbags: ![]() Also quoting a paragraph from the Global NCAP link: Volkswagen has decided to withdraw the non-airbag version of the Polo from sale in India. Because of this, Global NCAP agreed to a request from VW to assess a version of the Polo that has two airbags fitted as standard as from now. Other manufacturers had the same opportunity. Still if there is any apprehension against VW then let it be and choose then Ford or any other cars but why the 'Indianized' Asian car? Quote:
And about Ford, the same Ford had to add 150+ more components in the structure alone in the Ecosport when they decided to sell it in Europe. Indian Ecosport is no where near to Euro Ecosport which has passed the tests. I am not even talking about safety features, just talking about the structure. Have posted the link of the source earlier somewhere else on the forum. Last edited by tbppjpr : 7th November 2014 at 10:56. | ||
![]() | ![]() |