Cedia or ANHC or just settle for the SX4?

Gilead · 28th May 2010, 14:57

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Originally Posted by niranjanrvce

@Gilead
khoj put me through to the area manager as well but I have sort of decided to go with the fully loaded sports version for that little bit of extra cash. I do hope the dealer has a Sports standing ready in his yard:I can then milk an extra discount out of him and not wait for the delivery either!

That's a good decision.

Even I am always in favor of buying the fully loaded version to avoid future heart burn. Why don't you casually find out where the yard is and take a look yourself. You will know which cars and colors are readily available. If one of them satisfies you, then you can start bargaining hard. If the color of your choice is not there, then you would have to wait. You have nothing to lose and a lot to gain.

RajaTaurus · 28th May 2010, 15:17

Niranjan,
Once you are in here selecting cars in this range and you have Cedia on the list, be sure you will be sold over by us Cedizens. As Gilead said, don't hurry in selecting the color of your choice, as you are going to own and flaunt the car for at least next 4-5 years. A month will pass in a wink.

niranjanrvce · 28th May 2010, 15:32

aaah the colour! I simply CANNOT decide between the Black, Red and White. And I have tried pretty hard at this but all of them look equally good to me! I will end up deciding the colour on the basis of a coin toss on the day of booking if I continue like this

Maibaa · 28th May 2010, 17:50

Red is the color to go for :-) Among the three, red looks special and is a head turner for sure!

RajaTaurus · 28th May 2010, 17:57

Black - Extremely difficult to maintain, unless you have a full time driver.
White - Bland and no head-turner. Goes un-noticed.
As Maibaa said, Red it has to be.

niranjanrvce · 28th May 2010, 21:58

The dealer is asking me for a booking amount of 2 lakhs upfront. I sort of convinced him to reduce it to 1 lakh. Does that sound a little high? Because I assumed a booking amount of 50k would suffice. Or am I wrong here?

khoj · 29th May 2010, 00:50

55K is what I deposited, I had been asked for 1L. The car was at the factory and not billed to dealer at that point.

You know by asking for 2 L the dealer has exposed a chink in his armour, at least that is the way I view it. Time to squeeze, put up the 50K after extracting additional juice.

Voyager-1 · 29th May 2010, 02:14

Cedia has considerably more torque (2.0L Engine, 175 NM @4250 RPM) as it has the largest heart compared to SX4 (1.6L, 145 NM @4100 RPM) and ANHC (146 NM @4800 RPM). This would make a considerable difference in city as well as highway drivability.

Cedia's power (115 PS @5250 RPM) is better than SX4 (104 PS @5600 RPM) and on par with ANHC (118 PS @6600 RPM).

VMG · 29th May 2010, 10:27

I paid 1L when I booked. RED is hot and still(after 30 months) it looks great.

niranjanrvce · 29th May 2010, 12:50

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Originally Posted by khoj

55K is what I deposited, I had been asked for 1L. The car was at the factory and not billed to dealer at that point.

You know by asking for 2 L the dealer has exposed a chink in his armour, at least that is the way I view it. Time to squeeze, put up the 50K after extracting additional juice.

explain please! how does the squeeze angle come in? I thought it was the other way around!

khoj · 29th May 2010, 18:30

By asking for this unusually large amount he wants your pucca commitment so that you do not walk away having changed your mind after making the booking. You know and we know that a commitment is a commitment but in the auto business these guys do not know that word. For them it is figures whether on the invoice or on the sales charts at the end of the month. Per the dealer's understanding you will think ten times if 2L or even 1L were stuck with a dealer instead of 50K. It is obvious that he has lost business due to people changing their minds with him holding small amounts which he knows he has to return. At times he must be getting stuck with stock too having ordered the vehicle from the factory based on the small booking amount. Since he wants you to lock your decision he has to offer an incentive for you to do so to move from booking to locking. More so as you can contribute to his monthly target, he has to give some to get some.

This scenario is played out on a daily basis at all auto showrooms like a stuck record over and over again. There is no harm in trying, if you get any additional benefits(monetary, accessories, extended warranties) good for you. Even if you don't, you are not losing anything from the offered package and you are getting a great car. Trust me either ways at the end of it you will be like

nandans2005 · 29th May 2010, 20:28

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Originally Posted by niranjanrvce

I have the Swift and if you seriously believe that its better than the SX4 and City on highways

This is news for me. Hey niranjan, would you explain in what sense you felt so? I do not agree to your observations about swift being better than SX4 and ANHC on highways !

nandans2005 · 29th May 2010, 21:35

Mods, Kindly excuse for back to back post.

Niranjan,

Cedia is not the car i would suggest for you, they hardly have any service presence across India. The rare presence of the cedia in a traffic signal says it all. Many people cant go wrong when they buy ANHC & and people cant go wrong when they dont buy the cedia. The numbers on the road says it all. I would strongly suggest you to hold your decision to buy the cedia.

Whether you want to sell it or not sell it, my suggestion would be to have a nice proven car with you.

I have seen guys looking at the Cedia with a surprise on the face trying to guess which car is this. The presence is such.

You are making any investment, please be wise is my suggestion as a team mate.

Good wishes and please avoid the Cedia. Dont intend to offend anybody owning one, but need to pen a good suggestion.

niranjanrvce · 29th May 2010, 22:53

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Originally Posted by nandans2005

This is news for me. Hey niranjan, would you explain in what sense you felt so? I do not agree to your observations about swift being better than SX4 and ANHC on highways !

Hey that wasn't opinion but that of a member expressed here. Please do read the entire statement taht I wrote!

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Originally Posted by khoj

By asking for this unusually large amount he wants your pucca commitment so that you do not walk away having changed your mind after making the booking. You know and we know that a commitment is a commitment but in the auto business these guys do not know that word. For them it is figures whether on the invoice or on the sales charts at the end of the month. Per the dealer's understanding you will think ten times if 2L or even 1L were stuck with a dealer instead of 50K. It is obvious that he has lost business due to people changing their minds with him holding small amounts which he knows he has to return. At times he must be getting stuck with stock too having ordered the vehicle from the factory based on the small booking amount. Since he wants you to lock your decision he has to offer an incentive for you to do so to move from booking to locking. More so as you can contribute to his monthly target, he has to give some to get some.

This scenario is played out on a daily basis at all auto showrooms like a stuck record over and over again. There is no harm in trying, if you get any additional benefits(monetary, accessories, extended warranties) good for you. Even if you don't, you are not losing anything from the offered package and you are getting a great car. Trust me either ways at the end of it you will be like

Let me see what I can bargain out of him. So far it's been about 10k worth of accessories. I will be booking the coming week and will haggle my best when I next meet him!

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Originally Posted by nandans2005

Mods, Kindly excuse for back to back post.

Niranjan,

Cedia is not the car i would suggest for you, they hardly have any service presence across India. The rare presence of the cedia in a traffic signal says it all. Many people cant go wrong when they buy ANHC & and people cant go wrong when they dont buy the cedia. The numbers on the road says it all. I would strongly suggest you to hold your decision to buy the cedia.

Whether you want to sell it or not sell it, my suggestion would be to have a nice proven car with you.

I have seen guys looking at the Cedia with a surprise on the face trying to guess which car is this. The presence is such.

You are making any investment, please be wise is my suggestion as a team mate.

Good wishes and please avoid the Cedia. Dont intend to offend anybody owning one, but need to pen a good suggestion.

Most of the Cedia owners here have had positive feedbacks about the service and although I was a little apprehensive earlier, I am sort of going by the feedback I have got on these forums as far as A.S.S is concerned. Is there any other reason why you would suggest not going for the Cedia?

Guna · 29th May 2010, 23:53

If you are considering Cedia, you may want to wait for some time as new lancer getting launched very soon. Not sure about the exact launch date but according to ACI, 7 seater OL, Evo and new Lancers are lined up for the launch.

28th May 2010, 15:17	#32
RajaTaurus Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Tenkasi, TN Posts: 1,119 Thanked: 482 Times View My Garage	Niranjan, Once you are in here selecting cars in this range and you have Cedia on the list, be sure you will be sold over by us Cedizens. As Gilead said, don't hurry in selecting the color of your choice, as you are going to own and flaunt the car for at least next 4-5 years. A month will pass in a wink.
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28th May 2010, 15:32	#33
niranjanrvce BHPian Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 382 Thanked: 656 Times	aaah the colour! I simply CANNOT decide between the Black, Red and White. And I have tried pretty hard at this but all of them look equally good to me! I will end up deciding the colour on the basis of a coin toss on the day of booking if I continue like this
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28th May 2010, 17:50	#34
Maibaa BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 308 Thanked: 92 Times View My Garage	Red is the color to go for :-) Among the three, red looks special and is a head turner for sure!
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28th May 2010, 17:57	#35
RajaTaurus Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Tenkasi, TN Posts: 1,119 Thanked: 482 Times View My Garage	Black - Extremely difficult to maintain, unless you have a full time driver. White - Bland and no head-turner. Goes un-noticed. As Maibaa said, Red it has to be.
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28th May 2010, 21:58	#36
niranjanrvce BHPian Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 382 Thanked: 656 Times	The dealer is asking me for a booking amount of 2 lakhs upfront. I sort of convinced him to reduce it to 1 lakh. Does that sound a little high? Because I assumed a booking amount of 50k would suffice. Or am I wrong here?
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29th May 2010, 00:50	#37
khoj Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Dilli Posts: 2,718 Thanked: 1,287 Times View My Garage	55K is what I deposited, I had been asked for 1L. The car was at the factory and not billed to dealer at that point. You know by asking for 2 L the dealer has exposed a chink in his armour, at least that is the way I view it. Time to squeeze, put up the 50K after extracting additional juice.
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29th May 2010, 02:14	#38
Voyager-1 BHPian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 248 Thanked: 212 Times	Cedia has considerably more torque (2.0L Engine, 175 NM @4250 RPM) as it has the largest heart compared to SX4 (1.6L, 145 NM @4100 RPM) and ANHC (146 NM @4800 RPM). This would make a considerable difference in city as well as highway drivability. Cedia's power (115 PS @5250 RPM) is better than SX4 (104 PS @5600 RPM) and on par with ANHC (118 PS @6600 RPM).
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29th May 2010, 10:27	#39
VMG BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chennai Posts: 346 Thanked: 35 Times	I paid 1L when I booked. RED is hot and still(after 30 months) it looks great.
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29th May 2010, 18:30	#41
khoj Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Dilli Posts: 2,718 Thanked: 1,287 Times View My Garage	By asking for this unusually large amount he wants your pucca commitment so that you do not walk away having changed your mind after making the booking. You know and we know that a commitment is a commitment but in the auto business these guys do not know that word. For them it is figures whether on the invoice or on the sales charts at the end of the month. Per the dealer's understanding you will think ten times if 2L or even 1L were stuck with a dealer instead of 50K. It is obvious that he has lost business due to people changing their minds with him holding small amounts which he knows he has to return. At times he must be getting stuck with stock too having ordered the vehicle from the factory based on the small booking amount. Since he wants you to lock your decision he has to offer an incentive for you to do so to move from booking to locking. More so as you can contribute to his monthly target, he has to give some to get some. This scenario is played out on a daily basis at all auto showrooms like a stuck record over and over again. There is no harm in trying, if you get any additional benefits(monetary, accessories, extended warranties) good for you. Even if you don't, you are not losing anything from the offered package and you are getting a great car. Trust me either ways at the end of it you will be like
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29th May 2010, 21:35	#43
nandans2005 BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Bangalore. Posts: 640 Thanked: 42 Times	Mods, Kindly excuse for back to back post. Niranjan, Cedia is not the car i would suggest for you, they hardly have any service presence across India. The rare presence of the cedia in a traffic signal says it all. Many people cant go wrong when they buy ANHC & and people cant go wrong when they dont buy the cedia. The numbers on the road says it all. I would strongly suggest you to hold your decision to buy the cedia. Whether you want to sell it or not sell it, my suggestion would be to have a nice proven car with you. I have seen guys looking at the Cedia with a surprise on the face trying to guess which car is this. The presence is such. You are making any investment, please be wise is my suggestion as a team mate. Good wishes and please avoid the Cedia. Dont intend to offend anybody owning one, but need to pen a good suggestion. Last edited by nandans2005 : 29th May 2010 at 21:37.
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29th May 2010, 23:53	#45
Guna Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 4,086 Thanked: 4,433 Times	If you are considering Cedia, you may want to wait for some time as new lancer getting launched very soon. Not sure about the exact launch date but according to ACI, 7 seater OL, Evo and new Lancers are lined up for the launch.
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