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Originally Posted by carbookie Why such a hate for an undertrial? What happened to our principle of "Innocent until proven guilty".. |
Can you explain why should we be compassionate about the killers and not hate them? Rights of undertrials are always important and we should respect that, but not for these inhumans. (Cant use the word "animals" or "beasts" for them, its an insult to the animal kingdom). "Innocent until proven guilty" is fine for cases of trivial nature, not for cases like these where they have been identified by the victims and they themselves have confessed to the crime, more so to a ghastly barbaric crime. Why do you want to put in this "Innocent until proven guilty" clause here to give benefit of the doubt to these killers?
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Originally Posted by carbookie Also, according to our law, this is not a rarest of rare case. There are far too many mitigating circumstances. |
Rather than mitigating circumstances, here there are aggravating circumstances which require the harshest possible punishments. Right from enticing the couple to board the bus by trickery, then assault, rape, torture and finally murder...these are all loads of aggravating circumstances, both in acts and intentions. And surely, it deserves the harshest possible punishments.
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Originally Posted by carbookie Should we hang the alleged rapists just because this rape is in news, while far worse incidents unreported elsewhere? A very bad, unfortunate and tragic incident happened. And the biggest tragedy is it repeats every few hours somewhere in India. Names of victim, perpetrators and places change. And incidents die a silent death, in memories and in files. |
Okay, so as per your logic we should not hang these rapists because many other rapists are moving scot free? I find this logic very convulated. Ofcourse, everyone of them deserve to hang, but many of them getting pardons by ineffective Presidents/ Goverments should not be construed as a precedent for every one getting pardons and leniency.
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Originally Posted by carbookie I understand we (and Arnab Goswami) is outraged. But that is not the reason for demanding a kangaroo justice.It is good that we are outraged, but don't use this outrage to punish these people. |
What then needs to be done as per you if we need not punish them? Place garlands and give them a world cup winning teams reception? (On a different note, our cricket team also does not deserve this anymore). Moreover, I don't think there is going to be kangaroo justice. (Though I sincerely hope for one, taliban style in this case). Let me assure you, with our judiciary and legal process, these killers will be relatively comfortable goverment guests for sometime to come spending our (taxpayers) money. Kasab probably still remembered the tastes of Biryani and the warmth of his blankets, which he did not deserve, till he hung.
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Originally Posted by carbookie Half baked ideas, and overzealous public and lawmakers leads to laws like IPC 498a. |
The misuse of IPC 498A is there, but still I feel that strong laws and stronger implementation is required be it dowry or pickpocketing.
Our laws must evolve with time and circumstances of the case. Has anyone seen the Korean courts verdict today of "15 years in jail, chemical castration, rapists information be made available to the public for 10 years and that he should wear an electronic monitoring anklet for 20 years after his release from prison along with undergoing 200 hours of therapy to treat his sexual impulses." His crime? Blackmailing underage teenagers to have sex with him. Seems like kite flying without license in comparision to the ghastly barbarism shown in Delhi by our homegrown killers. Now, will you go and say that South Korea is ruled by taliban and this is a kangaroo court's justice for a small crime? No. The judgement reflects the reality and also tries to prevent further crimes by the same man. In comparison, the Delhi killers surely deserve to see the hangman.
On a different note, many of us are saying that the juvenile gets 3 years in jail. No, its 3 years in a juvenile correction centre undergoing "reformation counselling". And as per my knowledge these reform homes are actually those criminal producing factories which in effect will make a harder, harsher future criminal out of him. Duh! Why go for these fake reforms, just hang him and do away with it all.