The IPL Thread

Spitfire · 23rd March 2009, 17:33

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Originally Posted by finneyp

Spitfire, if something goes wrong during IPL (terror attacks), it will be a big shame for our country, foreign investments will be impacted, economy will suffer!
And the Govt will be condemned to death!

One small question. What is the government there for then?

They agree they cant guarantee the security of its citizens?

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So for the Govt which is preoccupied with Elections, it is certainly not worth the risk.

Agree. But when PC says 'IPL is a shrewd combination of Business and Cricket' is he really talking elections and the security?

This is nothing but an ego clash. PC is not happy with the IPL commissioners popularity. Why? Try and find out...

Elections is just an excuse, they are stopping it because they want to show they can and Modi is taking it abroad because he wants to show even he can.

We the dumb populace watch on.

esteem_lover · 23rd March 2009, 17:53

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Originally Posted by Spitfire

One small question. What is the government there for then?

They agree they cant guarantee the security of its citizens?

If you have a private party, sell tickets, make a fortune & you want the state troops to provide security, then you better do it at a time when they can give it in full earnest. If not, shut your bottom & fall in line, the money can be made anytime. Be a responsible citizen first, enjoy your cricket later.

It is just this craziness inside all of us fans that the IPL is playing with. I hope they lose this time. I am for India, not for IPL.

Spitfire · 23rd March 2009, 17:59

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Originally Posted by esteem_lover

If you have a private party, sell tickets, make a fortune & you want the state troops to provide security, then you better do it at a time when they can give it in full earnest. If not, shut your bottom & fall in line, the money can be made anytime. Be a responsible citizen first, enjoy your cricket later.

Its not a house party sir. LOL.

BCCI is led by you know who. That someone is a friend/enemy (to be used interchangeably) of you know who.

Note: I agree to the elections over IPL. I am arguing the stupid comment of PC.

PS: About shutting up and falling in line

you dont have a choice do you

esteem_lover · 23rd March 2009, 18:20

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Originally Posted by Spitfire

Its not a house party sir. LOL.

It sounds more like it is.

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Originally Posted by Spitfire

BCCI is led by you know who. That someone is a friend/enemy (to be used interchangeably) of you know who.

I don't understand that.

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Originally Posted by Spitfire

PS: About shutting up and falling in line

you dont have a choice do you

Well, why not use private security if entertaining the fans is the most important thing for IPL.

harry10 · 23rd March 2009, 18:26

IPl's main aim is to make money at any cost. Period.
I feel govt thinks IPL may divert Indian people towards cricket and noone will bother about elections and thats why all this politics is going on.

Situation will be funny if it is played in SA or ENG. Imagine a match going on at Lords and someone asks me who you supporting, My ans - Well i was going to support Delhi Daredevils but its on Lords so am thinking anyone will do as its a EPL mate so who cares

Spitfire · 23rd March 2009, 18:38

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Originally Posted by esteem_lover

I don't understand that.

You are spinning this into me being for IPL during elections and you the responsible citizen. LOL. Thats not the case.

I was replying to the stupid comment made by PC.

Sorry but i dont want to take this forward.

You win.

kb100 · 23rd March 2009, 19:21

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Originally Posted by pypkmsrikanth

I can never feel sorry for Lalith Modi & Co. IPL has got nothing to do with the game but everything to do with money. Its my firm opinion that the para military forces should not be provided free of cost to the likes of IPL etc when BCCI makes so much money and god only knows spends on what. Let them pay for the security like the way EPL & FA pays for the work done by the English police in maintaining security in and around the Football stadiums.

Who told you they dont?

FYI the respective boards PAY for the police protection and security- ALWAYS - IPL or no IPL!! This is true for anyone wanting to conduct anything and is pretty much a part of the police clearance formalities! The money is calculated based on a combination of the nature of event, number of forces required, period of deployment, nature of duties etc!

Its is impossible to fathom (and swallow) that a simple thing like a sports tourney during a general election can potentially paralyse the home dept!

1. This decision is POLITICAL BRINKMANSHIP and has NOTHING to do with reality!

2. I hate to be thinking about the message that is being sent out/perceived!
3. As a patriotic Indian, I feel disgusted with this decision!

The current govt has definitely lost my confidence!

DISCLAIMER : The statements above are based on facts. I have absolutely NO political affiliations/leanings whatsoever!

csentil · 23rd March 2009, 19:34

IPL has to wait if they want it to be held in India. Elections is not a joke in a country of our size and population. One of the reasons why elections are staggered is to have better co-ordination and security leading to more peaceful polling.

IPL is a sports cum business venture. No two ways about it. Even if IPL is paying for the security it gets, every state or the centre has the right to say what their priority is.

Unfortunately Lalit is caught between the devil and the deep sea. The T20 WC starts in June. So the IPL has to be before that or not at all.

diabloo · 23rd March 2009, 21:55

Intially: Commissioner of Police, Bangalore city, Shankar Bidri said that the organizers of the Indian Premier League will have to make security arrangements on their own when matches are played in Bangalore during the elections.

When asked about the security arrangements during the IPL, he said that the city police is not in a position to provide security to the cricket matches at the time of the elections. No security for IPL in Bangalore

Later: "Our government was ready to provide security to IPL matches in Bangalore. Our police had already communicated the decision to organisers. But the UPA failed in this regard," Minister for Transport R Ashok told a press conference here. The Hindu News Update Service

Looks like the Commissioner of Police over-estimated the security requirements and transport minister got it right.

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Originally Posted by Spitfire

Elections is just an excuse, they are stopping it because they want to show they can and Modi is taking it abroad because he wants to show even he can.

finneyp · 23rd March 2009, 22:25

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Originally Posted by diabloo

Looks like the Commissioner of Police over-estimated the security requirements and transport minister got it right.

Would the Bangalore Police Commissioner know more about the Security requirements OR a Minister of Transport (who has no idea of the Law & order affairs of the state)?

diabloo · 24th March 2009, 14:28

After Dravid, its Ganguly turn now - McCullum set to replace Ganguly as KKR skipper

suman · 24th March 2009, 14:34

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Originally Posted by diabloo

After Dravid, its Ganguly turn now - McCullum set to replace Ganguly as KKR skipper

Slight difference - Dravid was sacked, Ganguly is opting out.

finneyp · 24th March 2009, 14:40

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Originally Posted by diabloo

After Dravid, its Ganguly turn now - McCullum set to replace Ganguly as KKR skipper

It is just a rumour! Courtesy: Times of India

harry10 · 24th March 2009, 22:53

South Africa to host IPL
Cricinfo - South Africa to host IPL

kb100 · 25th March 2009, 14:58

Ganguly has been dropped from captaincy of Knight Riders!

Edit: Coach Buchanan has apparently mooted the concept of having multiple captains. Obviously here is one man who has not heard the adage 'Too many cooks spoil the broth'

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harry10 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Faridabad/Delhi Posts: 2,713 Thanked: 3,628 Times View My Garage	IPl's main aim is to make money at any cost. Period. I feel govt thinks IPL may divert Indian people towards cricket and noone will bother about elections and thats why all this politics is going on. Situation will be funny if it is played in SA or ENG. Imagine a match going on at Lords and someone asks me who you supporting, My ans - Well i was going to support Delhi Daredevils but its on Lords so am thinking anyone will do as its a EPL mate so who cares
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csentil Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,349 Thanked: 38 Times View My Garage	IPL has to wait if they want it to be held in India. Elections is not a joke in a country of our size and population. One of the reasons why elections are staggered is to have better co-ordination and security leading to more peaceful polling. IPL is a sports cum business venture. No two ways about it. Even if IPL is paying for the security it gets, every state or the centre has the right to say what their priority is. Unfortunately Lalit is caught between the devil and the deep sea. The T20 WC starts in June. So the IPL has to be before that or not at all.
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diabloo BANNED Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bengalooru Posts: 1,480 Thanked: 17 Times	After Dravid, its Ganguly turn now - McCullum set to replace Ganguly as KKR skipper
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harry10 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Faridabad/Delhi Posts: 2,713 Thanked: 3,628 Times View My Garage	South Africa to host IPL Cricinfo - South Africa to host IPL
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kb100 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bangy Boy! Posts: 1,555 Thanked: 21 Times	Ganguly has been dropped from captaincy of Knight Riders! Edit: Coach Buchanan has apparently mooted the concept of having multiple captains. Obviously here is one man who has not heard the adage 'Too many cooks spoil the broth' Last edited by kb100 : 25th March 2009 at 15:01.
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