[sbasak]

you train your people hard and they leave you at the drop of a hat

If 40% people leave after getting training, then you still have other 60% employees. Not giving training showing this excuse is bad for any company's reputation.

Some Indian IT companies (TCS is well known of them) often try to capture employees by "bonds". The employees who want to leave, walks away anyway but company gets bad reputation.

People leave even from Microsoft/Yahoo/Google/Boeing - but that doesn't mean they stop providing training to their employees.

IC engines are only 25% efficient - does it mean we should not burn petrol (because 75% energy is wasted)?

[vivekiny2k]

well, we are talking about indian eployers who already have low margins to cut costs. the whole business works on the same principals, hence you do not see the types of rebates, return/exchange offers as offered by the places where the other giants that you mention ed operate.

[PhrozenFire]

Originally Posted by NetfreakBombay

How much these companies pay now a days?

I heard that all of them pay ~3.5 lakh CTC, is that right?

Im not sure about fresh engineers, but to fresher MBAs Wipro paid 7.75, Infy 7.25 and Satyam around 6.5-7, CTC this year

[amtak]

Originally Posted by PhrozenFire

Im not sure about fresh engineers, but to fresher MBAs Wipro paid 7.75, Infy 7.25 and Satyam around 6.5-7, CTC this year

Wow! which stream of MBA's? As in marketing/Finance or HR?

[headers]

Originally Posted by sbasak

Pity, instead of picking up each others' good habits, they have both chosen the bad ones!

Its not only on Hire and Fire that the western culture had influenced our country..Lets talk about partying..have multiple girlfriends at the same time etc etc..

But its a shame that we dont want to respect fellow humans as well as time and comittments.

[diabloo]

I thought westerners learnt about partying/celebrating (look at the number of festivals), having multiple girlfriends/wives from India !

Is it the other way?

Originally Posted by headers

Its not only on Hire and Fire that the western culture had influenced our country..Lets talk about partying..have multiple girlfriends at the same time etc etc..

[headers]

Originally Posted by sbasak

If 40% people leave after getting training, then you still have other 60% employees. Not giving training showing this excuse is bad for any company's reputation.

This is not mathematics to talk percentages. Not all are trained in the same skill sets.

I agree that not training is bad for the company's reputation, but the trained employee who leaves after training - well what do we call him?

[headers]

Originally Posted by diabloo

I thought westerners learnt about partying/celebrating (look at the number of festivals), having multiple girlfriends/wives from India !

Is it the other way?

Well..whatever..i'm not so well versed in history..but we definitely dont have the discipline and respect for the individual or fellow citizen when it comes to that..

A simple example..just imagine guys waiting at the zebra crossing..Here they just keep waiting..whereas, in most developed countries the pedestrians get the priority when it comes to zebra crossings..

[NetfreakBombay]

Originally Posted by amtak

Wow! which stream of MBA's? As in marketing/Finance or HR?

And from which collage(s) ?

[amtak]

Originally Posted by NetfreakBombay

And from which collage(s) ?

Certainly the A rated ones. But I am sure that 4.5 to 7.5 is now the norm for freshers.

[diabloo]

Dark side of the jobs boom in India

Originally Posted by PhrozenFire

Im not sure about fresh engineers, but to fresher MBAs Wipro paid 7.75, Infy 7.25 and Satyam around 6.5-7, CTC this year

Originally Posted by amtak

Wow! which stream of MBA's? As in marketing/Finance or HR?

Originally Posted by NetfreakBombay

And from which collage(s) ?

Originally Posted by amtak

Certainly the A rated ones. But I am sure that 4.5 to 7.5 is now the norm for freshers.

[WhiteKnight]

Originally Posted by vivekiny2k

well, we are talking about indian eployers who already have low margins to cut costs. the whole business works on the same principals, hence you do not see the types of rebates, return/exchange offers as offered by the places where the other giants that you mention ed operate.

Buddy, we are in a global marketplace. No one forced these Indian folks to open companies. If someone is not able to compete, they should be out of business. Please do not talk about Indian IT companies having to operate with low-margins and Americans companies having golden spoons in their mouth.

Originally Posted by headers

I agree that not training is bad for the company's reputation, but the trained employee who leaves after training - well what do we call him?

Fire your HR. Your recruiting process is fundamentally wrong. You are not recruiting the right candidates for the job.

[sidkun]

Originally Posted by headers

This is not mathematics to talk percentages. Not all are trained in the same skill sets.

I agree that not training is bad for the company's reputation, but the trained employee who leaves after training - well what do we call him?

Well, if the trained employee (or employees, in this case) , are "the Traitorous Eight", then we call them geniuses, pioneers and pathbreakers.

Traitorous Eight - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


If these people hadn't quit their job out of disgust, the world wouldn't have had Fairchild Semiconductor, Teledyne, Xicor and also Kleiner-Perkins.
Oh, and I probably wouldn't be typing this out on my PC powered by an Intel processor.



Sometimes, it's good for the industry when people leave and start their own ventures.

[NetfreakBombay]

Originally Posted by diabloo

Dark side of the jobs boom in India

Not sure what this article is cribbing about.

If someone is not from a premier collage, that person has got to do grunt jobs for 2 - 3 years. That is the fact for pretty much any large company (India or anywhere else).

If you prove yourself then you get to move up.

[bblost]

my personal experiance prompts me to strongly disagree with netfreak.

I don't like the has got to do in the above post.

“Excellence is not a skill. It is an attitude.”
Ralph Marston quotes