[WhiteSierra]

Originally Posted by GTO

If your DPF is getting blocked primarily because of short-commute city driving, it only means one thing = GET A LIFE (sorry, no offence meant ).

- Go for a long drive on the highway .

- If no time for highway, go for a long drive in the city @ higher speeds. E.g. in Mumbai, it could be the Sea Link & Freeway. In Bangalore, it could be the airport road.

- Give the car an Italian tune-up from time to time (sample video below).

After all, as BHPians, we live to drive! So go out, and drive for the pleasure of it. Tell the wife that "my DPF needs it".

Slightly but I do this on my Sierra every Sundays, The car is parked from Monday to Saturday and is used only on Sundays. I find an empty stretch and gun the accelerator. I drive the car till 4 to 4.5 K RPM and the engine growls like a Boeing 747. I use this vehicle is only for my pleasure rides over the weekends. My mechanic also advised me to gun the diesel engine cars once in a while so that any soot and carbon deposits would burn / go away. It's a good excuse for BS6 diesel owners to trash their vehicles once in a while now. All thanks to DPF.

[pseudo_coder]

I recently took a test drive of Harrier AT. I was expecting a great pickup, but was disappointed. The weight of the car seemed to be pulling it back at low to moderate speeds. Did anyone else feel the same? Or could it be the particular vehicle, and I should test another one?

[Candy$Cars]

Originally Posted by pseudo_coder

I recently took a test drive of Harrier AT. I was expecting a great pickup, but was disappointed. The weight of the car seemed to be pulling it back at low to moderate speeds. Did anyone else feel the same? Or could it be the particular vehicle, and I should test another one?

Did you happen to check which drive mode was activated during your test ride? From what you say, I guess the economy mode was active or the City mode(though city mode was adequate even in the BS4 Harrier, it must be much better on the BS6 version).
In all my test rides of the BS4 Harrier, the sales rep accompanying always activated the Sports mode promptly at the beginning of the test ride.

[pseudo_coder]

Originally Posted by Candy$Cars

Did you happen to check which drive mode was activated during your test ride? From what you say, I guess the economy mode was active or the City mode(though city mode was adequate even in the BS4 Harrier, it must be much better on the BS6 version).

No, I didn't. Will try with sports mode tomorrow. Thanks!

[mayd85]

Even though the poll results are pointing towards the Harrier to be favourite, I wonder how many of the voters here are actually in the market for an SUV? In other words, is an opinion poll going to change the fortunes of Tata and the Harrier? I am pretty sure that even in the next month and the month thereafter and so on, it will be the Seltos topping the sales charts.

[myavu]

Voted for Tata Harrier Automatic

Harrier is the car which can take abuse year after year. The road presence is mighty and the smooth AT handling 170 horses is a delight to use.

Another mental problem with other 2 cars are about their sheer number of presence on roads. e.g Yesterday evening on the way to home the traffic usually gets bottled at Lajpat Nagar Metro station. I was sandwiched between 2 Seltos and with a quick glance I counted 4 more in my FOV It's like seeing Swifts and Dezires on roads now. After spending 20+ Lakhs I don't want to be lost in that crowd.

Harrier in that Red/Black dual tone or Dark Edition will always stand out in the traffic.

Cheers!

[Anjadekar]

I am helping a friend choose a car and he is seriously considering the Harrier. After going through this thread it looks like pre-sale and after-sales service of Tata cars is the only sore point.

I am surprised that this is the case, especially the pre-sales part of it, as Tata has done such a stellar job in delighting customers with the Taj brand. I would have thought that setting the benchmark in hospitality would come in handy in creating a really compelling pre-sales customer experience. While I have not been able to visit their showroom, I did not find their website or brochures to be at all impressive or enticing. I hope that the car speaks for itself with a stronger voice!

[asit.kulkarni93]

I’ll choose the Jeep Compass. It’s a well engineered car. Engine & suspension are simply best in class. Most importantly the Compass connects.

[harish.raghavan]

TATA Harrier for sure - I am keeping it in my radar for the buy by end of the year. I feel it sure is a value for money proposition considering the recent updates and the Hyundai GB at its heart.

[pseudo_coder]

With the launch of turbo petrol, it would be good to see Duster in this comparison.rIt gets the basics right: Spacious, comfortable and powerful. Top end automatic at 16 lakh on road makes it a good deal.

[kar_thikr]

I have been asking this question to myself for a while now. I wanted to replace my trusty old stage 1 tuned Swift Diesel. My heart is in a conundrum between the Seltos, Harrier, and Compass.
Seltos - Looks really good, in photos and in person, lot of gadgets and gizmos to play with and a frugal diesel engine, but when I took it out on a TD, it didnt felt any faster than my remapped Swift.
Harrier - Killer looks, The best in the bunch IMOH, Never got a chance to TD the BS6 edition, sure it will be better than the BS4 model, which was adequate but definitely not a drivers car.The poor ASS and fit and finish were a let down for me, as well as the sheer size of the thing in the city and on tight country roads, it will be hard for my father who need a daily driver.
Compass - The Pure SUV stance and a gem of a powertrain, I love it the most as a drivers car out of the bunch. But for the price we pay, a real let down as a family car, the lack of space, features, and questionable ASS.

Creta - I can't stand the looks of it.
XUV 500 - past its prime.
MG Hector - Unnecessarily large and not the biggest fan of China.

[fhdowntheline]

Recently took a test drive of the automatic Harrier. I sat in a Harrier for the first time. I got that feeling that you get when you board an airplane. When you look at the fuselage before boarding at the gate, you dont think the plane (most narrow bodies) to be large. But when you enter, you realise that it seats 6 abreast in comfort. The Harrier design gave me that feeling. Not large enough outside (width wise) but fairly large inside. Especially from the driver's seat, the bonnet looks wide.
But the Harrier also sits tall and I felt the overall road visibility was excellent, barring the rear of course. So far, sounds perfect- so here's the catch. The power driver seat buttons were missing.
So I had to make do with a cramped seat for my driving, which thankfully wasn't unsafe, but definitely uncomfortable. So half of my interest in the cabin aesthetics, features, gadgetry was gone. I just focused on driving the car. The performance was very good.I guess it has sufficient and more power to haul its passengers and luggage.
The ride quality was firm, but at slightly higher city speeds, 60kph+, the car actually flattened out the imperfections. In the rear, the car felt comfortable to ride in. But I felt the seat under thigh support could have been better. Also- that leather upholstery colour didn't feel special - as if someone had plastered it with Cadbury's 5-star. I think they should think of better shades.
Its a very good car, but needs better support at various levels. Also needs clarification on the supposed design issue preventing GNCAP certification.

To have a car without power-driver seat working, for test drive itself is a major negative for a major dealership.Strangely, they have 5 branches but share just 1 AT Harrier amongst them through the week. And you wonder why Harrier's don't sell.
I hope TML is watching.

[judgejassi@gmai]

When it comes to polls and comment the Harrier Fan Club sets its up on fire. However, it doesn't manifest into sales figures. Justification may be that the lower variants are the ones that spike up the numbers for the Creta/Seltos. However, what i do gather is that even the higher variants of these car are selling in high number.
Does this mean that Harrier is the Car that is most recommend by people who ain't there in the market to buy one and for the one who are there to pick one, well for them sensibilities prevail over their heart.
Also, is the Service interval of Six months for Harrier acceptable!

[GTO]

Just look at what a "completed" product & a competent AT can do to your product's perception. Just earlier this year, the Seltos had DOUBLE the votes of the Harrier, on the same forum from the same members - link (Kia Seltos vs the competition).

And now, see this poll!

Speaking for myself, I would never consider the '19 Harrier in the state that it was. But the '20 Harrier AT would be right up there on my consideration list.

Why, oh why, Tata...did you have to launch a half-baked product last year.

[TorqueIndia]

Originally Posted by GTO

Just look at what a "completed" product & a competent AT can do to your product's perception. Just earlier this year, the Seltos had DOUBLE the votes of the Harrier, on the same forum from the same members - link (Kia Seltos vs the competition).

And now, see this poll!

Speaking for myself, I would never consider the '19 Harrier in the state that it was. But the '20 Harrier AT would be right up there on my consideration list.

Why, oh why, Tata...did you have to launch a half-baked product last year.

Quite true , I guess the reason for such a move was that TaMo was in a hurry to be the forerunner in those futuristic 'eye brow' split headlight design , which was there with all the SUVs scheduled for 2019 in India . Started with Harrier followed by Venue, Hector, Seltos and now Creta had similar designs which was so fresh in January 2019 , but the production team didn't catch up in many ways !