Team-BHP > Technical Stuff
Register New Topics New Posts Top Thanked Team-BHP FAQ


Reply
  Search this Thread
470,995 views
Old 9th April 2023, 11:01   #541
RBT
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Kolkata
Posts: 5
Thanked: 4 Times
Re: About clutch wear & replacement

Actually the clutch plate, the pressure plate and the flywheel – these work in harmony to allow you to change gears seamlessly.

In this mechanism the clutch works by employing a plate or disc that uses friction to join it to the flywheel where they move at the same speed.

A slipping clutch occurs when your clutch’s friction material is worn out, therefore the clutch plate will start moving at a different speed to the flywheel, causing a slip.

You need to explain about the problem with a test drive at the respective AST of your vehicle.

Sauve cylinder leakage also needs to verified.

It's better if you be quite specific to the point of problem with technical advisor of your vehicle at their work shop
RBT is offline   (1) Thanks
Old 27th May 2023, 10:41   #542
Senior - BHPian
 
sumeethaldankar's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 4,146
Thanked: 3,672 Times
Re: About clutch wear & replacement

My petrol MT Swift done 19.1k kms clutch seems a bit hard. During the lockdown times between Mar 2020 and early 2022 almost every sat I would move the car in our society compound back and forth to keep everything in working order. I had to clutch all the time partially while doing so as there was not enough space in the compound. Would did this action in anyway would have contributed to any wear and tear. I would say roughly I may have done not more than a few kms every sat over the mentioned duration.

When I visited the service centre in Oct last year and mentioned the clutch feels a bit hard as expected they came back saying it needs replacement which I did not agree on. Post the service car has done a mere 3 to 4k kms and while I have no issues in changing gears etc the clutch pedal effort seems to have increased. Can the clutch cable be adjusted to address this problem?
sumeethaldankar is offline  
Old 9th June 2023, 10:18   #543
BHPian
 
PearlJam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 664
Thanked: 1,833 Times
Re: About clutch wear & replacement

Quote:
Originally Posted by PearlJam View Post
Hi, I've started facing some amount of clutch slippage only in higher gears (5th and 6th), and only on hard acceleration. There's absolutely no problem at lower speeds and in city driving in general. The gear shifts are as smooth as it was and there are no shudders. The car has done around 75k Kms on stock clutch.
Update:
I finally got this repaired by Hyundai. They said that the gear box oil had leaked into the clutch system, and that's the reason for slippage in higher gears. Apparently the oil seal breaks with age after some years, so it's not an uncommon issue. Since the gearbox is designed to always have a reservoir of oil below a certain level, it will never seize.

They changed the clutch plate, pressure plate, and release bearing, since it was already near it's end of life, and also got contaminated with oil. The flywheel was fine so didn't need a replacement.

The gear box had to be opened up to fix the leakage. I was a bit apprehensive, but the SA assured me that it was simple and routine job of just fixing the seal. "All in a day's work", and "we're not a roadside garage, this is nothing new for us" assurance from them .

They did a fantastic job, to their credit, and the car was returned in 24 hours flat, with regular WhatsApp updates about the status, along with pictures. Contrast this with the painful experience of just changing my VW Polo battery, but that's another topic

Absolutely no slippage now, with a softer clutch pedal as bonus. The clutch action from standstill is a bit aggressive, though. I remember this was how it was when the car was new. Cost me around 16k.

Last edited by PearlJam : 9th June 2023 at 10:19.
PearlJam is offline   (2) Thanks
Old 26th June 2023, 21:19   #544
Distinguished - BHPian
 
ashis89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Bengaluru
Posts: 3,658
Thanked: 12,203 Times
Re: About clutch wear & replacement

Does a new clutch set (including the flywheel) ever need bedding in? Can a new clutch make the engine feel sluggish during the bedding time?
ashis89 is offline  
Old 18th September 2023, 12:07   #545
BHPian
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Bengaluru
Posts: 926
Thanked: 3,378 Times
Re: About clutch wear & replacement

Car: Tata Zest Petrol, clutch is cable driven, ODO at 75000kms. I'm was on stock clutch.

Over the last few weeks, there is a 'krrr krrr' rubbing sound emanating from around clutch pedal while engaging the clutch (clutch pedal being released) but only when driving in stop-and-go crawling traffic.

Showed it to my FNG who changed only Clutch cable. The problem has not gone away. It is still there. There is no hardness in clutch. There are no signs of worn-out clutch. Could it be just worn out clutch release bearing?

Any inputs in this regard is welcome.
srvm is offline  
Old 19th September 2023, 18:33   #546
Senior - BHPian
 
VijayAnand1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Stickn' Around
Posts: 1,278
Thanked: 3,556 Times
Re: About clutch wear & replacement

Quote:
Originally Posted by srvm View Post
Car: Tata Zest Petrol, clutch is cable driven, ODO at 75000kms. I'm was on stock clutch.

Over the last few weeks, there is a 'krrr krrr' rubbing sound emanating from around clutch pedal while engaging the clutch (clutch pedal being released) but only when driving in stop-and-go crawling traffic.

Showed it to my FNG who changed only Clutch cable. The problem has not gone away. It is still there. There is no hardness in clutch. There are no signs of worn-out clutch. Could it be just worn out clutch release bearing?

Any inputs in this regard is welcome.
When your a krrring, krrr, snrrrring kind of sounds when you engage/disengage it's a sure shot sign your clutch release bearing is shot and eventually they'll start grinding more and more. A clutch release bearing going bad is usually a symptom of a weak clutch system too (though not always) but in majority of the cases.

Get your clutch system inspected, if found okay, replace the clutch release bearing.

Cheers!
VJ
VijayAnand1 is offline   (1) Thanks
Old 16th October 2023, 10:45   #547
BHPian
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Bengaluru
Posts: 926
Thanked: 3,378 Times
Re: About clutch wear & replacement

Quote:
Originally Posted by srvm View Post
....
Over the last few weeks, there is a 'krrr krrr' rubbing sound emanating from around clutch pedal while engaging the clutch (clutch pedal being released) but only when driving in stop-and-go crawling traffic.

Showed it to my FNG who changed only Clutch cable. The problem has not gone away. It is still there. There is no hardness in clutch. There are no signs of worn-out clutch. Could it be just worn out clutch release bearing?

Any inputs in this regard is welcome.
Quote:
Originally Posted by VijayAnand1 View Post
When your a krrring, krrr, snrrrring kind of sounds when you engage/disengage it's a sure shot sign your clutch release bearing is shot .....
Get your clutch system inspected, if found okay, replace the clutch release bearing.

Cheers!
VJ
Update:
Got the clutch inspected last week.
Release bearing was the culprit and hence was replaced.
Since the gearbox was opened up anyway, I got the pressure plate and clutch cover also replaced. Flywheel was found to be in good shape and was only buffed.

Parts cost: Rs.6600 including GST
Labor cost: Rs.4100 including GST
Total: Rs.10,700

Got it done at Yes Motors Bosch, Ramagondanahalli, Off Varthur Road.
Pretty pleased with their work. OEM parts used. Clutch is smooth and light once again.
srvm is offline   (1) Thanks
Old 30th October 2023, 16:41   #548
Senior - BHPian
 
IndigoXLGrandDi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Solapur (MH-13)
Posts: 1,867
Thanked: 598 Times
Re: About clutch wear & replacement

I am facing problem while shifting to 1st Gear when the Engine warms up. The Gear Lever just refuses to move beyond halfway. Suppose if I want to shift from Neutral to 1st, the lever could be moved towards left but does not move straight (does not move in 1st gear slot).

Car in question is Hyundai Elite i20 Asta CRDI Mar2015 that has run 2,85,000 Kms on its Factory Clutch.

If I try to slot with more pressure, the gear lever moves to 1st after 3-4 attempts. What is the problem?

FE is 20-22KPL (mixture of Rural Roads and Highways) with sedate driving. My speed is limited to "Google Maps Indicated 80Kph" even on 4lane highways.
IndigoXLGrandDi is offline  
Old 30th October 2023, 16:57   #549
Team-BHP Support
 
Samurai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Bangalore/Udupi
Posts: 26,008
Thanked: 49,830 Times
Re: About clutch wear & replacement

Quote:
Originally Posted by IndigoXLGrandDi View Post
If I try to slot with more pressure, the gear lever moves to 1st after 3-4 attempts. What is the problem?
I had the same issue recently. It is the clutch cylinder problem. Get the cylinder changed.
Samurai is offline  
Old 15th December 2023, 17:08   #550
Senior - BHPian
 
IndigoXLGrandDi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Solapur (MH-13)
Posts: 1,867
Thanked: 598 Times
Re: About clutch wear & replacement

Quote:
Originally Posted by Samurai View Post
I had the same issue recently. It is the clutch cylinder problem. Get the cylinder changed.
I got the Clutch Slave Cylinder replaced but the problem is still there. The clutch hardness has reduced and the car has run @800-1000 kms after the replacement was done. The Brand of Slave Cylinder used was TCIC.

What to look out for now?
IndigoXLGrandDi is offline  
Old 15th December 2023, 17:18   #551
Team-BHP Support
 
Samurai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Bangalore/Udupi
Posts: 26,008
Thanked: 49,830 Times
Re: About clutch wear & replacement

Quote:
Originally Posted by IndigoXLGrandDi View Post
I got the Clutch Slave Cylinder replaced but the problem is still there.
Have they changed the master cylinder too? When they changed the clutch slave cylinder, they would have opened the gearbox. What was the status of the flywheel, pressure plate and clutch plate?
Samurai is offline  
Old 18th December 2023, 12:34   #552
Senior - BHPian
 
IndigoXLGrandDi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Solapur (MH-13)
Posts: 1,867
Thanked: 598 Times
Re: About clutch wear & replacement

Quote:
Originally Posted by Samurai View Post
Have they changed the master cylinder too? When they changed the clutch slave cylinder, they would have opened the gearbox. What was the status of the flywheel, pressure plate and clutch plate?
Sorry if it was not clear previously.

The Clutch Slave Cylinder of Elite i20 CRDi is mounted outside of Gearbox behind Radiator. So there was no need to open the gearbox. The FNG Mechanic removed old CSC, installed new CSC, performed Clutch Bleeding and I was ready to go.
IndigoXLGrandDi is offline   (1) Thanks
Old 19th December 2023, 13:54   #553
Senior - BHPian
 
IndigoXLGrandDi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Solapur (MH-13)
Posts: 1,867
Thanked: 598 Times
Re: About clutch wear & replacement

Sorry for back to back posts.

Please advise on further diagnosis for above problem.
IndigoXLGrandDi is offline  
Old 17th January 2024, 18:21   #554
Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: chalakudy
Posts: 18
Thanked: 9 Times
Re: About clutch wear & replacement

I seem to be facing a perplexing issue with my Baleno Diesel . The entire clutch disc, pressure plate ,release bearing and flywheel was replaced at 98k and the car has clocked barely 40k after clutch replacement. The original clutch lasted nearly 1 lakh kilometres. The issue which I am facing is that there is clutch slippage in 3rd, 4th and 5th gears especially when accelerating hard. There is absolutely no clutch shudder or judder in 1st or the 2nd gear. Any inputs as to the causes for such slippage only at higher gears would be greatly appreciated 👍
babukvishnu is offline  
Old 18th January 2024, 09:57   #555
BANNED
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Cochin
Posts: 2,195
Thanked: 268 Times
Re: About clutch wear & replacement

Quote:
Originally Posted by babukvishnu View Post
I seem to be facing a perplexing issue with my Baleno Diesel . The entire clutch disc, pressure plate ,release bearing and flywheel was replaced at 98k and the car has clocked barely 40k after clutch replacement. The original clutch lasted nearly 1 lakh kilometres. The issue which I am facing is that there is clutch slippage in 3rd, 4th and 5th gears especially when accelerating hard. There is absolutely no clutch shudder or judder in 1st or the 2nd gear. Any inputs as to the causes for such slippage only at higher gears would be greatly appreciated 👍
Clutch slippage usually happens at higher gears when the clutch is in the death-bed. Soon it will slip in any gear at any speed.

If the vehicle is abused, then a clutch replacement can happen even at 15K KMS.

Go to a competent garage ASAP.
mithun is offline   (1) Thanks
Reply

Most Viewed


Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks