[SilverSmoke]

Is it's only me or DSG / Engine issues are more common in Tiguan than in Kodiaq?

[Guna]

Originally Posted by SilverSmoke

Is it's only me or DSG / Engine issues are more common in Tiguan than in Kodiaq?

Tiguans (TSI) have been there for 2-3 years now and the Kodiaqs (TSI) are around only for a year

[Dhruv29]

Originally Posted by thirdmainroad

Do you not have extended warranty? Doesn’t the Tiguan come with a 4 year warranty?

Why can’t you push for VW for resolution under warranty? Have you emailed them a stinker mail?

Why leave it as it is? It may only get worse and put you in a deeper spot!


With the car making noises, I think it’s a very bad idea to go get aftermarket brake discs. They’ll now try to pass it off as an issue with them!

Hey,

Yes, I have extended warranty with the vehicle. But as stated earlier there needs to be a balance between what needs to be fixed immediately, and what can be be left as it is. I fought with them for 2 years. My vehicle downtime cumulatively was 4 months out of 2 years of ownership.

In the daily driving route of the vehicle as well as occasional outstation trip, it works fine 99% of the time. My car was stripped apart countless time, do I trust them to do it properly? Absolutely not! God knows if they would've stripped bell housing bolts of engine or left some bolts which needed to be tightened.

It was depressing to see the fault in my brand new vehicle, but with time I've accepted that nothing can be done on it and I'm enjoying the vehicle more now.

I'll use it till the ground too (15 Years) due to poor resale of this vehicle.

For warranty/extended warranty, it all depends on your relation with service centre advisor/manager. Many things can be swiftly dealt, if you have happy terms with service centre staff.

Originally Posted by AdarshG

Hi Dhruv.

Have been following up this post very closely. Recently bought a 2022 Tiguan (CKD) last month. Took it to the hills. Received a DSG high temperature warning and then an alarm. Happens each time the car has to pull while going uphill. There is a sharp reduction in torque. Spoke to VW. They said they will speak to the technical team and get back. Been wanting to know the status of your DSG issue.

Nothing much on my DSG issue, to be frank the VW service centre is not even sure it is DSG.

Maybe the clutches are getting over heated due to sharp incline. I took my car on hills multiple times, but haven't dealt with DSG temperature warning. The hills weren't maybe as steep?

Because in the end DSG is a series of clutches which engages/disengages, I think the inclines were quite sharp in your route that's why the DSG overheated.

I would recommend not to pursue this case further unless you are sure that VW will replace this gearbox eventually. Because, in replicating this scenario VW would be burning your clutches multiple times in hilly/steep incline condition to get the error again. Shortening the overall lifespan of your gearbox.

If the issue persists quite frequently, then you can pursue it seriously.

[AdarshG]

Originally Posted by Dhruv29

Yes, I have extended warranty with the vehicle. But as stated earlier there needs to be a balance between what needs to be fixed immediately, and what can be be left as it is. I fought with them for 2 years. My vehicle downtime cumulatively was 4 months out of 2 years of ownership.

In the daily driving route of the vehicle as well as occasional outstation trip, it works fine 99% of the time. My car was stripped apart countless time, do I trust them to do it properly? Absolutely not! God knows if they would've stripped bell housing bolts of engine or left some bolts which needed to be tightened.

It was depressing to see the fault in my brand new vehicle, but with time I've accepted that nothing can be done on it and I'm enjoying the vehicle more now.

I'll use it till the ground too (15 Years) due to poor resale of this vehicle.

Thanks Dhruv

Makes sense to not pursue this any further till it happens frequently. Live in the hills half the time. Have a Thar. Will keep the Tiguan for soft off roading and the Thar for the tougher terrains.

[shabeermohamed]

This is exactly why I bought a Tucson instead of a Tiguan. It's a coin toss. All the alleged driving exhilaration will be offset if/when you encounter a DSG failure. A TC gearbox is a safe bet for Indian conditions. No point in complaining when you know it's a ticking time bomb.

[skrmv2]

Thank you for sharing your ordeal Dhruv. As someone in the forum pointed out, nothing is worth your peace of mind. I was shortlisting the Tiguan - they told me that it has the dq320 gearbox (guess i hear it wrong) which is good; but then i came across your thread. I am not ready for this kind of stress. Thanks again for sharing.

[kapilsharma80]

Originally Posted by Dhruv29

Hey,

Yes, I have extended warranty with the vehicle. But as stated earlier there needs to be a balance between what needs to be fixed immediately, and what can be be left as it is. I fought with them for 2 years. My vehicle downtime cumulatively was 4 months out of 2 years of ownership.erall lifespan of your gearbox.

Hi Dhruv, pls share further updates on current performance of the vehicle, especially the repeat issues you were facing.

I was thinking of buying Kodiaq tsi & now in doubt whether it would the right decision.

Requesting Kodiaq owners to share the feedback on DSG or other issues which have cropped up during the ownership

[Dhruv29]

Originally Posted by kapilsharma80

Hi Dhruv, pls share further updates on current performance of the vehicle, especially the repeat issues you were facing.

I was thinking of buying Kodiaq tsi & now in doubt whether it would the right decision.

Requesting Kodiaq owners to share the feedback on DSG or other issues which have cropped up during the ownership

Hey,

Nothing much to report. The car crossed 80k KM now. Except the high annual service cost and maintenance there is nothing much to report. The issue is still there but is quite rare and I don’t think it is related to gearbox at all now.

I go over and above with scheduled maintenance as well, For e.g haldex oil change, DSG oil change etc. I generally do it before recommended interval.

Except the initial hardship, it has been pretty reliable vehicle.

My plan is to utilise the car till it gets to around 12 year mark and then sell it off.

[kapilsharma80]

Originally Posted by Dhruv29

Hey,.
My plan is to utilise the car till it gets to around 12 year mark and then sell it off.

Good to know that are no further issues and you seem to enjoying the car.

Could you pls help us understand the average annual service & maintenance cost of your ownership.

And since you have been through so many diagnosis, What accordingly to you could be reason for the niggles in the car.

Thanks!

[Dhruv29]

Originally Posted by kapilsharma80

Good to know that are no further issues and you seem to enjoying the car.

Could you pls help us understand the average annual service & maintenance cost of your ownership.

And since you have been through so many diagnosis, What accordingly to you could be reason for the niggles in the car.

Thanks!

Sure,

Running costs:

1. Recently replaced 2nd set of tires with Michelin Latitude sport 3 - Rs. 21,000/piece

2. Stock battery only lasts for 2 years and you have to replace with VW OEM to keep the warranty intact. I have disconnected auto start-stop to elongate battery life. Costing - Rs. 17,000

3. Front disks are are Rs. 30,000/set and rear ones are Rs. 20,000/set. Expect them to be replaced at 40-45,000 KM. Brake pads are about Rs. 22,000 for a whole set, they lasts about 20,000-25,000 KM.

4. Then you have the haldex AWD oil change at 60,000KM, costs about Rs. 20,000. DSG oil change at 40,000KM is Rs. 25,000

5. Servicing cost is also high. It gets to Rs. 25,000 even after you remove the add-ons.

6. 2.0 TSI engines drinks a lot of engine oil. I fill it up with around 3 - 4 Litres of oil in 10,000KM.

I don't know the real cause for engine/gearbox issue, could be anything. If I had to take a guess then fuel rate delivery might be the problem. But as of now, I am not bothered by it, as long as it is kept in check. It only comes during spirited driving and hot temperatures.

It is really nice vehicle with sorted dynamics even with 7 people onboard. But you have to take into account for the fact that the running costs is near to the big 3 germans. Except the badge and some other small improvements. It is already up there.

Ignorance is bliss in my case in the end. Keeping the car with me and utilizing it to the full extent is more important to me, than running around in VW service trying to fix the car and in the end possibly ruining it further as they themselves don't know what is wrong with it. As of today, car is off to a 1600KM road trip.

[kapilsharma80]

Thank you for quick and detailed responses. It helps to understand the nuances with the positive points.

I believe you have summed up your experience really well below and gives a lot of courage on how to live with car plagued with issues.

Originally Posted by Dhruv29

Ignorance is bliss in my case in the end. Keeping the car with me and utilizing it to the full extent is more important to me, than running around in VW service trying to fix the car and in the end possibly ruining it further as they themselves don't know what is wrong with it. As of today, car is off to a 1600KM road trip.

I am contemplating to buy a used Kodiaq 2023 tsi done about 10k, hence asking about the experience. Now I am not sure if I should go for it or not.

[SilverSmoke]

Originally Posted by Guna

Tiguans (TSI) have been there for 2-3 years now and the Kodiaqs (TSI) are around only for a year

I still feel the same.

Originally Posted by Dhruv29

Brake pads are about Rs. 22,000 for a whole set, they lasts about 20,000-25,000 KM.
DSG oil change at 40,000KM is Rs. 25,000
2.0 TSI engines drinks a lot of engine oil. I fill it up with around 3 - 4 Litres of oil in 10,000KM.

I beg to differ on these points for Kodiaq 2.0 TSI - original pads are still going at 50K KMs. My run is mostly on highways & expressways.

DSG oil change according to service manager is scheduled for 100K KMs - though I believe it must be changed at 60K KMs or earlier.

Never have to top up engine oil till now.

[Guna]

Originally Posted by Dhruv29

2. Stock battery only lasts for 2 years and you have to replace with VW OEM to keep the warranty intact. I have disconnected auto start-stop to elongate battery life. Costing - Rs. 17,000

In my case, the battery did not give any trouble even after 4 years. I do keep the start-stop system on. I got the battery changed as the replacement battery which was part of the SVP was due and I didn't want to let it go elapsed.

[Dhruv29]

Originally Posted by Guna

In my case, the battery did not give any trouble even after 4 years. I do keep the start-stop system on. I got the battery changed as the replacement battery which was part of the SVP was due and I didn't want to let it go elapsed.

Originally Posted by SilverSmoke

I beg to differ on these points for Kodiaq 2.0 TSI - original pads are still going at 50K KMs. My run is mostly on highways & expressways.

My running is mainly in city during peak traffic times and many times short distance trips where battery cannot get enough juice from alternator during the trip to makeup for the charge lost. The brake pads are consumed a lot more in stop and go traffic and also does put much more strain on starter battery. Due to this, I disconnected the voltage parameter sensor on the battery to deactivate the auto start-stop.

Engine oil consumption is more like winning a lottery. Some engine drinks a lot, some don't.