Team-BHP - The Tata Safari 2.2L Technical / Problems Thread

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Originally Posted by Shyamtanu (Post 1243132)

I have another query... how much problem does one face to operate the CD player, as it disturbingly placed near the gearshift? From ADC's posts, I really do not want to take my eyes off the road for the sake of changing CDs/shifting between controls. I shall need to check it myself while I take the test drive, but what do you guys think?

Extremely dangerous to change cd / track when cruising in 5th. Go for the steering mounted remote, if you have the stock Blaupunkt HU. I have one, very useful.

Many a times, I have noticed that when driving through smoke etc, the smell penetrates the cabin with the Ventilation Switch set to close. I was suspecting that the Ventilation door may not be closing completely.

I am not able to trace it's exact location to check. Although I believe that it is under the hood. Any clues??? :uncontrol

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Originally Posted by adc (Post 1243221)

Look what that situation was and what you are trying to generalize is completely different - I was using the handheld remote of the Pioneer in the dark and other factors were there. For the actual generalization, Abhiknov has described it reasonably well.

Whats the solution - get a remote on the steering or like I did now for this overnight Kol-Gangtok journey today, dont use a remote, just press directly on to the knob and play whatever it plays!!

handheld remote... !! Then I missed it, it is even more dangerous to use if you are driving, irrespective of whether it is day or night. Okay so steering mounted remote is the solution. It works on the same infrared frequency as normal remote controls do right or is it blutooth or or some other technology?

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Originally Posted by kingshukt (Post 1239307)

Unlike a Sierra, Safari 2.2 has hydraulic tappets. I was informed by TASS that these (tappets) cannot be adjusted. Yes , I have a very (please note the VERY) small tappet noise right from the beginning. I only way I can get to the root of the noise is by opening the tappet cover and this I am not going to do so on a new vehicle.

So I live with it.:eek:

Sure its the tappet? The EGR gives a similar noise (krr krr is from EGR)

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Originally Posted by chaxy (Post 1241094)

all sounds will settle with more usage of the vehicle. My 2.2 purrs like a cat now. :)

32.5k now, smooth. Very.

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Originally Posted by jkdas (Post 1245233)

lol.

I said it coz when I had (have now too, but less audible) the krr krr the gusy said its the tappet and hence.

We will have to meet sometime to hear what each of us term as a Krr noise. This would be the only way to resolve this issue.

I am planning (am planning for the last couple of months:Frustrati) to drive down to B'lore - I will try to meet Dadu and others there then, but you are still furthur south:).
I am keeping my fingers crossed.

On my ~2months old Safari 4x4 VX I am facing this issue- the leather cover on the gear lever boot was torn at the base parallel to the lever well and there were few tiny holes on the boot near that. This was replaced under warranty at first service. After driving for ~600kms or so it is torn again in exact same pattern.

TASS is replacing it under warranty again, this time they said they will change the entire gear lever assembly (??).
Anybody faced this before? please:

tia,
-BJ

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Originally Posted by bj96 (Post 1245651)

Dear bj96 if possible please post a photo of the same.

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Originally Posted by DDDHRUV (Post 1245851)

please post a photo of the same.

Posting few pics. TASS has replaced the gear lever (rod)- because they noticed that welding on the bent had some projections and they suspected that rod may have been bent causing undue stress on the leather boot cover.

Changing the rod was quite a job. They took almost half a day to do it. The truck had to be lifted up and then remove bottom protection plates (two of the three), undo differential assemblies and access the gear box, etc. When I visited the workshop they were putting back the stuff. I got to see my truck's bottom naked :D. It looked quite strong built. The 4wd transfer case was well hidden behind a x-member and protection plate. The plates itself looked like 4-6 mm sheets. The bar code tags stuck on the components from TML felt reassuring that my truck is still new :-). The guy (Mr Umesh) attending the job admitted that due to extra FWD differential it took him longer than normal 4x2 safari.

Anyways, the gear lever is changed now with a new bush. Gear change feels little notchy than before (to get into 1st and 2nd gear). Mechanic told me it will settle after some run-in. My truck had already done ~1750kms on old OEM lever.

Let us hope the original torn-boot issue is resolved now- which I will only know, if they replace the boot cover. Beige color was not in stock - have to wait till it arrives :-(.

As a side learning, now I know how easy it is to replace the gear lever boot cover and the knob. The plastic panel with leather boot cover is just a push-fit on to the base. It is a easy DIY job :-)

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Originally Posted by bj96 (Post 1245651)

Dear BJ.

I had similar problem in my Safari (VX 4X4) too (4 months old)

TASS replaced the gear rod, because the curve is not correct and because of this the cover is getting torn.

Now I do not have this problem.

Cheers

KVS

Issue : Resonating sound at 1300-1500 rpm while in 3-4 gears.

I guess this is an irritating issue with some safaris. This vibration results in a typical boom at rpm mentioned above mainly in city driving conditions. :Frustrati

It appers to come due to some damping issue - from the floor, roof, AC roof mounted and rear seats. inorder to pinpoint the source of this problem i spent time sitting in the rear with my driver at the controls.

Finally here is the culprit (at least in my safari 2.2). :)
There is a plastic cladding on the rear door as shown in pic below. the upper part is loosely hinged and resonates at the said rpm.
Solution - I have dampened it by pushing some packing foam into the gap.

For now the issue is solved clap:

The Air con of my Safari stopped cooling all of a sudden.
At first I checked all the fuse's, the ones that are inside the cabin and they were fine. Then I checked the fuse in the engine bay and the condenser fuse was the culprit. Put a new one from the spare provided!!!
Now I have to get a couple of more spare fuse and these are very small and different from the fuse that we guys normally see...
Here I have taken a picture of the faulty fuse

Are these easily available???

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Originally Posted by harjeev (Post 1265953)

Harjeev you can get those fuse from the TASS easily, it is better to take it from them instead of going to the 3rd party.