[Turbokick]

Originally Posted by Kimified

Yeah. 3 days more for the first anniversary and i have enjoyed every bit of it I did a 300km highway run last weekend and it still put a grin on my face when i floored it.

1) Where did you get this information from ? I have never faced any issues with the parts. Not that i have replaced/sourced many parts. But, whenever i have done, I did not find it bothersome at all.

2) Its 10k for Crdi and not 5k. 10k/6 month intervals. Yeah. Its lesser than the Punto's 15k / 1 year period which AFAIK has the greatest service interval period.
Even the Swift Vdi has a service interval of 10k. I think 10k service is fair enough.

As to why its lesser than what the Punto's is, all i can say is Hyundai (and most of the others) make a lot of money through service. Shorter intervals -> greater money. I don't see any other rationale behind it

1. Well to be honest a person who works for a Hyundai dealer unofficially said so. He said availability of spares for i20 CRDi can be a big problem and he rather suggested to stick with Swift.

2. 10Ks interval should be the ideal duration for servicing I feel. Atleast the engine oil and air filter should be replaced in that period.
For the matter of concern, I will purchasing a diesel more for fun (torque pull , you must be knowing how does it feel) than for kilometers run. I am afraid our car might not be doing 10Ks every 6 months or even in 1 year ( atleast initially). Will there be any problem to have an under running diesel car?
And what should be the ideal service interval in this car ? 6 months or 10K kms ?

[sagarpadaki]

Originally Posted by Kimified

Yeah. 3 days more for the first anniversary and i have enjoyed every bit of it I did a 300km highway run last weekend and it still put a grin on my face when i floored it

Rightly said. The relentless pull of the engine in 3rd and 4th is just mindblowing. The way it blasts away any other hatch on an highway is so so pleasing. You can't stop smiling once the speedo is in the 2k to 4k range. The torque is addictive. I say this car is worth buying only for the gem of an engine it has.

Have you tried Mobil delvac 1 fully synthetic on your rocket ? If no then try it once. The engine revvs to red line like a petrol!!! And the engine sounds creamy. I am loving it since the last 4k kms

[Kimified]

Originally Posted by Turbokick

1. Well to be honest a person who works for a Hyundai dealer unofficially said so. He said availability of spares for i20 CRDi can be a big problem and he rather suggested to stick with Swift.

2. 10Ks interval should be the ideal duration for servicing I feel. Atleast the engine oil and air filter should be replaced in that period.
For the matter of concern, I will purchasing a diesel more for fun (torque pull , you must be knowing how does it feel) than for kilometers run. I am afraid our car might not be doing 10Ks every 6 months or even in 1 year ( atleast initially). Will there be any problem to have an under running diesel car?
And what should be the ideal service interval in this car ? 6 months or 10K kms ?

Well, maybe the part issue thing is specific to your area ? I am not sure. I generally go through most of the i20 threads on the forum and haven't seen anyone complaining about the availability / sourcing of parts.

Yeah. The torque and the turbo kick on diesels are addictive.

Don't think there will be any problem with under running the car. I have read somewhere on the forum that modern diesels don't need to worry about under running! 10k a year is still a decent number as long as you don't leave the car without running for long periods .It also makes sense as long as the difference between petrol and diesel prices remains the same.

Just a suggestion. Have you considered other options ? I have noticed that the difference between a like-to-like version of the i20 diesel and petrol is around 1.4 lakh on road whereas it is around 70 or 80k with most other hatches. If you just want the tourque kick, won't the swift / figo suffice ? I am just suggesting this since the break even time will be huge to recover the 1.4 lakh with your running. If you don't have budget constraints, i20 diesel it is.

Originally Posted by sagarpadaki

Rightly said. The relentless pull of the engine in 3rd and 4th is just mindblowing.

Have you tried Mobil delvac 1 fully synthetic on your rocket ? If no then try it once.

Yeah. I can relate to what you are saying. If i was in the market again for a Diesel Hatchback, I would be buying the i20 again dropping the Punto 90Hp with a very heavy heart Just a personal choice. Not saying its better or worse than the others.

I have gone through your thread. I had read sometime back about the Mobil Delvac 1 review you had posted. I had just changed the oil when i read the review so thought i'll do this when the next service was due. Its due in 3 days and i will surely be getting this. Thanks for the suggestion.

Where in Bangalore can i get it the cheapest ? Or is it the same everywhere ? And i had read about the additive you had added too. Is that a necessity ?

[Freewheelin_KD]

Originally Posted by AmitKhatana

Hi Freewheelin,
I am planning to buy i 20 CRDI Sports. I have asked a few people about its mileage but I have been getting different figures more so from people who own 6 gear older version of i 20. Since you have the latest 5 gear version perhaps you can help me. Could you please tell me the mileage of your car. Thanks.

Hey Amit, our i20 has just done around 2500 kms and i still haven't been able to do a true tankful to tankful run to gauge the true fuel efficiency figure yet. Tried it recently, but guess someone had reset the trip because the mileage i got was around 14. Filled fuel sometime back and am waiting for what i get this time. Will update you accordingly.

[Turbokick]

Originally Posted by Kimified

Just a suggestion. Have you considered other options ? I have noticed that the difference between a like-to-like version of the i20 diesel and petrol is around 1.4 lakh on road whereas it is around 70 or 80k with most other hatches. If you just want the tourque kick, won't the swift / figo suffice ? I am just suggesting this since the break even time will be huge to recover the 1.4 lakh with your running. If you don't have budget constraints, i20 diesel it is.

The new Swift was actually the original choice and thanks to the fabulous 1.3 litre DDiS, it has been a brilliant car to drive from day one. It is clearly a better engine to drive compared to the petrol version. So 80-90Ks extra wasn't a problem. Moreover with the rising petrol costs and you never know when you running might exceed your calculation Initially we had a budget of around 6 lakhs but we found that the VDi version costs 6.5 lakhs,OTR : Odisha. So we extended the budget to something around 6.5-7 lakhs. When I inquired about the i20 CRDi , I was pleasantly surprised to know that the equivalent Magna Model costs 6.71 lakhs (20 K more than Swift). Either the Swift is overpriced or the i20 is a VFM package. i20 petrol was never in picture and if petrol car is what I wanted then I would have gone for the Jazz or even the Fiesta Classic which are bang on under our budget.

Figo never had that performance to match the fun of Swift or i20. I agree the TDCi is an excellent workhorse but it is just another normal diesel engine. (Something like Logan's DCi). There is no Ford showroom at our place either !


With the rumors about Govt putting extra taxes on Diesel car in 2012 budget , we become more serious about a diesel variant.

Honestly if you ask me,
i20 CRDi is WORTH the extra lakh or so over the petrol version.

Now to add some more confusion
Tata Manza and Maruti Dzire entered the selection list being in the same price range.

[sagarpadaki]

Originally Posted by Kimified

Yeah. I can relate to what you are saying. If i was in the market again for a Diesel Hatchback, I would be buying the i20 again dropping the Punto 90Hp with a very heavy heart Just a personal choice. Not saying its better or worse than the others.

I have gone through your thread. I had read sometime back about the Mobil Delvac 1 review you had posted. I had just changed the oil when i read the review so thought i'll do this when the next service was due. Its due in 3 days and i will surely be getting this. Thanks for the suggestion.

Where in Bangalore can i get it the cheapest ? Or is it the same everywhere ? And i had read about the additive you had added too. Is that a necessity ?

I have not added any additive.

I bought it from a shop on rajkumar road near vrl travels main office.got it for 3500 for 5 litres. Even though the capacity is 5.3 litre , 5 litre can is sufficient. Because around half litre of oil will be remaining in oil sump even when you drain fully

If you wanting will give you the shop address.

[kkat]

Hey Hi,

Which version of the i20 do you have ? Is it the 6 gear version. I had thought about the pete box sometime back. But, they did not have one for this version. Can i have a look at yours once ? I need to check the difference it makes and if it is of any help at all. I want bang for that much buck you see Does it have an effect on the 0 -100 timings ? and/or does it give an extra punch in the top end ? I am noob when it comes to tuning boxes. Please bare with me for the noob questions. I will surely get it done if i can feel its worth. Thanks for the suggestion. I shall go check it out at Kormangala. I stay very close to that place.


Hi Kimified ;
No mine is a 5 speed avatar , 6 speed versions have been discontinued and yes it will have a definite effect on 0-100 timings , regarding the extra punch on top end not tried yet since in the city we cannot simulate the conditions will let u know once I try it out , am planning to do the B'lore Mumbai during December the box will be a great boon owing to fewer gear shifts

[Kimified]

Originally Posted by Turbokick

The new Swift was actually the original choice and thanks to the fabulous 1.3 litre DDiS, it has been a brilliant car to drive from day one. It is clearly a better engine to drive compared to the petrol version. So 80-90Ks extra wasn't a problem. Moreover with the rising petrol costs and you never know when you running might exceed your calculation Initially we had a budget of around 6 lakhs but we found that the VDi version costs 6.5 lakhs,OTR : Odisha. So we extended the budget to something around 6.5-7 lakhs. When I inquired about the i20 CRDi , I was pleasantly surprised to know that the equivalent Magna Model costs 6.71 lakhs (20 K more than Swift). Either the Swift is overpriced or the i20 is a VFM package. i20 petrol was never in picture and if petrol car is what I wanted then I would have gone for the Jazz or even the Fiesta Classic which are bang on under our budget.

Figo never had that performance to match the fun of Swift or i20. I agree the TDCi is an excellent workhorse but it is just another normal diesel engine. (Something like Logan's DCi). There is no Ford showroom at our place either !

With the rumors about Govt putting extra taxes on Diesel car in 2012 budget , we become more serious about a diesel variant.

Honestly if you ask me,
i20 CRDi is WORTH the extra lakh or so over the petrol version.

Now to add some more confusion
Tata Manza and Maruti Dzire entered the selection list being in the same price range.

Yeah. I agree with almost all that you have said You have pretty much thought through it then.
I somehow hate the dzire. Manza seems a more complete product. However, if you do not need the boot, swift/i20 it should be. Doesn't really make sense buying either if you don't need the boot even if it is in the same price range. Personal opinion though.

Originally Posted by sagarpadaki

I have not added any additive.

I bought it from a shop on rajkumar road near vrl travels main office.got it for 3500 for 5 litres. Even though the capacity is 5.3 litre , 5 litre can is sufficient. Because around half litre of oil will be remaining in oil sump even when you drain fully

If you wanting will give you the shop address.

Hey. Yeah. I think one more bhpian rbh got it for the i20 with the additives. I got confused I will try getting the 5 litre pack then. Will try sourcing it from somewhere close by. rajkunar road is far off from my place. Will surely send you a pm if I don't find it here. Thanks.

Originally Posted by kkat

Hey Hi,

Which version of the i20 do you have ? Is it the 6 gear version. I had thought about the pete box sometime back. But, they did not have one for this version. Can i have a look at yours once ? I need to check the difference it makes and if it is of any help at all. I want bang for that much buck you see Does it have an effect on the 0 -100 timings ? and/or does it give an extra punch in the top end ? I am noob when it comes to tuning boxes. Please bare with me for the noob questions. I will surely get it done if i can feel its worth. Thanks for the suggestion. I shall go check it out at Kormangala. I stay very close to that place.

Hi Kimified ;
No mine is a 5 speed avatar , 6 speed versions have been discontinued and yes it will have a definite effect on 0-100 timings , regarding the extra punch on top end not tried yet since in the city we cannot simulate the conditions will let u know once I try it out , am planning to do the B'lore Mumbai during December the box will be a great boon owing to fewer gear shifts

Oh. That sounds good. Let me go check it out then. Thanks.

[Turbokick]

Originally Posted by Kimified

Yeah. I agree with almost all that you have said You have pretty much thought through it then.
I somehow hate the dzire. Manza seems a more complete product. However, if you do not need the boot, swift/i20 it should be. Doesn't really make sense buying either if you don't need the boot even if it is in the same price range. Personal opinion though.

Yeah boot is not that big an issue and ofcourse 300 liters is big enough to cater our demand. Manza, though vfm appeared to big a car for city drive. Now we have decided to overlook the Manza.

If you can add our personal opinion regarding the turbo lag and highspeed stability of your car (>120 kmph) compared to the Swift DDiS.

[shivasuma]

Originally Posted by AmitKhatana

Hi Freewheelin,
I am planning to buy i 20 CRDI Sports. I have asked a few people about its mileage but I have been getting different figures more so from people who own 6 gear older version of i 20. Since you have the latest 5 gear version perhaps you can help me. Could you please tell me the mileage of your car. Thanks.

Amit,
I have a 2009 asta 5 speed model. The worst I have got is 11.5kmpl and the best I have managed is 14kmpl in Bangalore city with AC on 100%. I drive about 20kms one way each day to office (bumper to bumper traffic for about 7kms and moderate traffic for about 13kms). My other car which is a fiesta diesel gives me about 14kmpl worst and 15.5kmpl best. All are tankful to tankful method. The reason for the lower mileage of the I20 is because of the turbo-lag which is pretty evident in city conditions. On the highway you can expect better mileage because of the tall gearing.

[Turbokick]

Originally Posted by shivasuma

). My other car which is a fiesta diesel gives me about 14kmpl worst and 15.5kmpl best. All are tankful to tankful method. The reason for the lower mileage of the I20 is because of the turbo-lag which is pretty evident in city conditions. On the highway you can expect better mileage because of the tall gearing.

Interesting kind of combination I must say.
Both cars I guess are as different as chalk and cheese. Be it the way both cars handle (steering behaviour in particular) and the way engine performs (one is lag less and the other has got a power rush after certain rpm)
How do you manage to adjust ?

[AmitKhatana]

Originally Posted by shivasuma

Amit,
I have a 2009 asta 5 speed model. The worst I have got is 11.5kmpl and the best I have managed is 14kmpl in Bangalore city with AC on 100%. I drive about 20kms one way each day to office (bumper to bumper traffic for about 7kms and moderate traffic for about 13kms). My other car which is a fiesta diesel gives me about 14kmpl worst and 15.5kmpl best. All are tankful to tankful method. The reason for the lower mileage of the I20 is because of the turbo-lag which is pretty evident in city conditions. On the highway you can expect better mileage because of the tall gearing.

Hello Shvasuma,

Thanks a million for your valuable input. It was very kind of you to have taken time to help me out here. I really appreciate that. I have booked two cars one is swift VDI and the other is i20 CRDI. I need a car that gives better mileage. I guess I will go for Swift VDI as it has a mileage of 20 +. Although i20 has awesome interiors and accessories like steering mounted controls, bluetooth connectivty for mobile phone, electrical folding mirrors etc. I just love those however, my prmary concern is the fuel economy. Thanks once again.

[Kimified]

Originally Posted by sagarpadaki

I have not added any additive.

I bought it from a shop on rajkumar road near vrl travels main office.got it for 3500 for 5 litres. Even though the capacity is 5.3 litre , 5 litre can is sufficient. Because around half litre of oil will be remaining in oil sump even when you drain fully

If you wanting will give you the shop address.

Today happens to be the First Anniversary, So thought ill get her a drink Is this THE one ? It says Oct 10 Imported. So its more than an year old since it was manufactured. Any cause for concern ?



Sorry for the out of focus pic.
Got it from JC road. 3.5k. Took a bit of searching to find it though. Mobil Delvac 1 5W 40 right ?

Originally Posted by Turbokick

Yeah boot is not that big an issue and ofcourse 300 liters is big enough to cater our demand. Manza, though vfm appeared to big a car for city drive. Now we have decided to overlook the Manza.

If you can add our personal opinion regarding the turbo lag and highspeed stability of your car (>120 kmph) compared to the Swift DDiS.

Yeah. You are right. I think the i20 has the largest boot space of all hatches baring the Jazz. Its humongous. I have been pleasantly surprised many times by how much it can take

I have driven majorly on straight roads and only a few times on twisty/ghat section roads. I have driven the Swift petrol previously and on the same roads. Both cars are rock solid till 140 kmph. I started feeling twitchy only after those speeds. That would be when you need a really good weighted steering, i20 sadly does not weight up as much as the swift does. But its not like being out of control, I felt out of control only beyond 160. Its all my personal opinion. You should probably try both and decide. For cruising around 120'sh on a straight highway, I would choose an i20 anyday over the Swift. The road noise too filters less in the i20 cabin compared to the Swift at those speeds. Its a lot quieter.

Originally Posted by AmitKhatana

Hello Shvasuma,

Thanks a million for your valuable input. It was very kind of you to have taken time to help me out here. I really appreciate that. I have booked two cars one is swift VDI and the other is i20 CRDI

Hey. Even i get around the same mileage. 12'sh inside the city and 14 or 15 on an Highway with a heavy foot. Swift i have heard gives better mileage than the i20.


Update :


I got a rear eye too. These are the mobile pics. Will post better pics in the morning. I got it wired such that i can turn it on even when going in the forward direction. Gives a very wide angle view. You can see the other side of a pretty wide road in the pic.

[guyfrmblr]

Congratulations on the first anniversary of your car. Wishing many more such anniversaries with your i20. The rear camera display looks cool. I have seen this kind of displays in BMTC volvos which will be ON even when moving in forward direction.

Originally Posted by Kimified

Arm rest is probably the best 1k i have spent on the car. Have been using it for close to 8 months now without any problem . I like the fact that it is wide and it goes very close to the gear lever. You don't even have to lift your hand to make the gear change. I like the fact that it looks well built and doesn't make the interior look cheap

A photo of your armrest will be greatly appreciated. I'm seriously planning for a one in my i20.

Next week I'm planning for my 2nd free service as I have clocked almost 9900 km. Do I need to specially mention anything to be done during this service with H.A.S.S? My engine oil sump was damaged and the engine oil was replaced when the odometer read 8500 km. So I'll ask them not to replace engine oil. I had seen in the service manual that the wheel alignment and balancing will be done on owner's request on chargeable basis during 2nd service. Since H.A.S.S are known for charging exorbitant rates for any chargeable service, is it advisable to go ahead with them for alignment? Have you done this during your 2nd service?

[sagarpadaki]

Originally Posted by Kimified

Today happens to be the First Anniversary, So thought ill get her a drink Is this THE one ? It says Oct 10 Imported. So its more than an year old since it was manufactured. Any cause for concern ?

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Sorry for the out of focus pic.
Got it from JC road. 3.5k. Took a bit of searching to find it though. Mobil Delvac 1 5W 40 right ?

Lol. Get her drunk!! So that she can
unleash her madness on the road. Yes that's the one. The best oil for diesel engine.
Not to worry about the manufacturing date. Oils usually have shelf life of 3 years if stored properly.

And if the SA asks you why only 5 litres ,tell you have one liter at home and would fill up after you take her home