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Old 3rd August 2018, 10:50   #16
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Very detailed review A.G.
You truly showed the might of Endeavour through your review, and the ford service was the icing on the cake.

I also loved the way you have done changes to the truck. Congratulations for the awesome ride.
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Thank you for the detailed review, very balanced indeed

The Endeavour 3.2 is a great choice; do keep updating this thread.
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Dear A.G.
I wish you many many miles in the Ford endeavour. Keep up the good work and keep posting.
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What a well written and interesting review.
Thank you for sharing this.
The small personal custom touches you have added are tastefully done.
An unsolicited suggestion is to try plastidipping your wheelrims dull black (I have done it and it goes well with silver) .

I think that it is a failure of Ford Marketing in India that SUV customers automatically gravitate towards Toyota.
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A.G Congratulations and thanks for sharing such detailed review of the mighty Endeavour. It seems there are lot of things I have to check with you specially the Climate control menu and the Raptor boot screen mod. Is it possible to elaborate step by step description how you have enabled these with some screenshots and software links.
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Brilliant review sir, looks like will have to again follow your steps , first it was for a PS , now tempted for this one
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Nice write up A.G. Thanks for the ownership thread.

The climate control on the left instrument panel especially caught my attention and this is something I tried to do earlier with Forscan. However, I have a WiFi OBD II adapter which does not have an HS/MS Can switch. So most of the modules don't show up on Forscan. You have to use a USB OBD II adapter with HS/MS Can switch.

Did you use Forscan to activate the menu or did you use some other means?
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The Aria was a lemon replacing lemons from Mahindra (had tasted 4 sour iterations of Scorpio from launch in 2002 till Scorpio AT in 2009). At 42K Kms mark, the Aria already had parts worth Rs. 4.5 Lakhs (excluding VAT at that time) replaced under warranty after spending 81 days at workshops in multiple visits from purchase in June 2011 till Jan. 2014. With no end to the problems, it was an executive decision in September 2014 to buy the replacement Pajero Sport even before selling the Aria as damage to time and mental peace was affecting work. Due to the tanked prices of the Aria, selling it at the price envisaged in October 2014 (which was twice the TML valuation but a third of the original price) took 3.5 years. Transferring the insurance 50% NCB on the Endeavour atleast recovered the insurance and maintenance costs paid during this time with added benefit of lower recurring costs.
There have been many disgruntled Tata Indigo owners on this forum let down by the poor quality of the Tatas in manufacturing leading to the vehicle becoming almost junk in 3-4 years. Your issues with the Aria confirm that the Tatas should stick to manufacturing trucks and keep away from the passenger segment

Excellent decision to purchase the Ford. What a beast!
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Excellent, well-written and detailed review A.G. Nicely edited pictures and interesting videos as well.

Buying an Endeavour is a no-brainer. Easily one of the best vehicles in the segment.

Some really good upgrades as well to the car. The new Raptor grille looks classy.

Continuously changing the variants, features and prices seem to be standard for all Ford cars. Hope they stop doing that soon and also add all the missing features to the upcoming Endeavour facelift.
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Awesome review A.G! Congratulations on the purchase & Wish you many more happy miles with the truck!

I currently own a 2016 Duster. Upgrade path is very clear to me by 2020 Nothing comes close to Endy in this segment. It's a B.O.S.S any day
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The Endy is a great car with lots to offer.
What Endeavour offers compared to the competition is truly amazing.
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I am sure this beast will never let you down.
I hope so and for the worse, I trust Ford’s service.
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As a natural upgrade from my current drive Ecosport, my dream vehicle is Endeavour !
With Ford looking at an all SUV portfolio, you never know what might come next. But till then, indeed Endeavour is the logical upgrade.
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You truly showed the might of Endeavour through your review, and the ford service was the icing on the cake.
Ford service has really evolved over the year and that elevates the experience.
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The Endeavour 3.2 is a great choice; do keep updating this thread.
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Dear A.G.
Keep up the good work and keep posting.
Will surely do.
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An unsolicited suggestion is to try plastidipping your wheelrims dull black (I have done it and it goes well with silver) .
Thank you for the suggestion. Will definitely add it to the bucket list.
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I think that it is a failure of Ford Marketing in India that SUV customers automatically gravitate towards Toyota.
Ford tried hard with their change the perception campaigns but it is tough to built a reputation of reliability like Toyota.
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It seems there are lot of things I have to check with you specially the Climate control menu and the Raptor boot screen mod. Is it possible to elaborate step by step description how you have enabled these with some screenshots and software links.
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The climate control on the left instrument panel especially caught my attention and this is something I tried to do earlier with Forscan. However, I have a WiFi OBD II adapter which does not have an HS/MS Can switch. So most of the modules don't show up on Forscan. You have to use a USB OBD II adapter with HS/MS Can switch.
Did you use Forscan to activate the menu or did you use some other means?
Yes, I used FORScan with a modified ELM327 based OBD2 adapter (to add the HS/MS CAN switch) for all the software mods and even for tyre size correction. Will try to elaborate soon.
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Brilliant review sir, looks like will have to again follow your steps , first it was for a PS , now tempted for this one
Honoured by your sentiment sir. Let me know if I can be of any assistance in converting the temptation into realization.
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There have been many disgruntled Tata Indigo owners on this forum let down by the poor quality of the Tatas in manufacturing leading to the vehicle becoming almost junk in 3-4 years. Your issues with the Aria confirm that the Tatas should stick to manufacturing trucks and keep away from the passenger segment
Looks like Tata have learnt from their mistakes of the past and are improving the products atleast.
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Continuously changing the variants, features and prices seem to be standard for all Ford cars. Hope they stop doing that soon and also add all the missing features to the upcoming Endeavour facelift.
I hope they do find a way to enable the missing software features for previous owners like me too.
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I currently own a 2016 Duster. Upgrade path is very clear to me by 2020 Nothing comes close to Endy in this segment. It's a B.O.S.S any day
Hopefully Endeavour stays the BOSS till then.
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Very nice but quick question, why was the diesel fuel filter changed at 10k? Oil and air filters fine - and you didn't mention the cabin air (aircon) filter, please change that every 10k without fail, but why the fuel filter?

Please also use a good tyre shop - ideally MTV Tyredrome due to the quality of their equipment (much better than their tyre quality) for alignment / balancing / rotation of tyres.

Ford uses a Castrol semi synthetic 5w30 (Magnatec Professional A5) complying with the rather old Ford standard you showed in your screenshot of the oil sump, 913C/D. I wouldn't recommend using it beyond say 7500 km.

This other oil is a cheap fully synthetic and lasts for a bit longer but still I doubt whether it's ever lasted me a full 10k km.

Mobil super FORMULA FE Synthetic PETROL/DIESEL ENGINE OIL for ALL CARS/SUVS (3L, Pack of 3L) https://www.amazon.in/dp/B0755G31P6/..._gYhzBbF876174

The back of the can should have the Ford 913 C/D approval. But it is still just API CF, which is a very old Diesel spec with the latest being CK4.
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Congratulations A.G. on your new endeavour. Its one of the best SUV available in india, 3.2 AT is the best engine and gearbox combo one can get in the segment. Happy driving.
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In relation to this thread, I would like to add the pros and cons of the endeavour after using it for 12k kms in 1 year. (3.2 4x4AT titanium)

Pros:
1. Value for money. Had there been no Fortuner in India, this vehicle would be priced much much higher.
2. Excellent control on highway runs.
3. Good GC.
4. TMS with low ratio gears and rear differential locks. Very good for off-roading.
5. Sunroof
6. Sync 3
7. Good suspension set-up.
8. Strong built quality.
9. Good pick up for a 2.5 tonne vehicle (0 to 100 in 11 seconds)

Cons:
1. Tyres (Everyone would agree on this)
2. Headlights.
3. Middle row slightly cramped for 3 adults.
4. No TPMS display for each tyre.
5. Entry method for 3rd row.
6. No off-roading gear /accessories options from Ford.
7. Only 80 litres tank. Could have been better with 100.
8. Low FE. It's a full time 4x4 or AWD which is one of the reasons. There's no 2H mode. Even the Scorpio gets it.
9. Power to weight ratio is less as compared to other vehicles in the segment (probably due to strong built quality there is more weight)
10. No drives/camps specially organized by Ford like Mahindra. This would help customers have a better idea about the vehicle. This has nothing to do with the vehicle but with the company.

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Very nice but quick question, why was the diesel fuel filter changed at 10k?
Fuel quality is pretty bad in the remote areas I encounter once in a while. When I asked them to inspect the same at 10K Kms service, it looked pretty clogged. At Rs. 1200, I considered it better to go ahead with the replacement.
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Please also use a good tyre shop - ideally MTV Tyredrome due to the quality of their equipment (much better than their tyre quality) for alignment / balancing / rotation of tyres.
Is it located in NCR?
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Ford uses a Castrol semi synthetic 5w30 (Magnatec Professional A5) complying with the rather old Ford standard you showed in your screenshot of the oil sump, 913C/D.
Have got service done at 2 different dealerships and both used Shell 5W30 Fully Synthetic oil.
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